UC actual available nutrient profiles

tconch · Nov 30, 2011

what temp & humidity did you try to maintain

desertsquirrel · Dec 8, 2011

Temps are 78-80 while using co2, humidity is around 60% until the last part.

lava · Jan 1, 2012

i am a little confused with the concept of nutrient profiles.

I used a botanicare pbp recipe that i maxed out at 400ppm (started to see burn at 450ppm). If ppm nutrient specific? Can i use a higher ppm of house and garden and not see burn?

420Clones · Jan 9, 2012

Safe PBP

Could it be deficiency? 400ppm seems low and it is hard to burn with PBP.

UCHQ · Jan 9, 2012

lava said:
i am a little confused with the concept of nutrient profiles.

I used a botanicare pbp recipe that i maxed out at 400ppm (started to see burn at 450ppm). If ppm nutrient specific? Can i use a higher ppm of house and garden and not see burn?

Over the past year or so PPB has proven less effective than it had been in previous years. Consider switching to a more water culture compatible nute such as DM, Canna, Ionic....and yes H&G can work well.

Just be sure to keep your calmag dosing lower like 1 mil per gal, especially when running such low concentrations to begin with.

jonnybravo · Jan 19, 2012

I was told where I can buy a book hydroponics.peace

desertsquirrel · Feb 7, 2012

UCHQ said:
Over the past year or so PPB has proven less effective than it had been in previous years. Consider switching to a more water culture compatible nute such as DM, Canna, Ionic....and yes H&G can work well.

Just be sure to keep your calmag dosing lower like 1 mil per gal, especially when running such low concentrations to begin with.

you see the product degrading?

UCHQ · Feb 8, 2012

desertsquirrel said:
you see the product degrading?

Can't say for sure...botanicare makes world class products no doubt.

Though it's not uncommon for nutrient manufacturers to be forced or choose to source different raw materials as inputs for their ferts. Whether this is or has been the case with pbp can only be speculated.

johnnyrex · Feb 8, 2012

desertsquirrel said:
Temps are 78-80 while using co2, humidity is around 60% until the last part.

When not using co2 how low do you keep your temps , also what ppm do you run your co2 during veg and flower

rollon · Feb 8, 2012

UCHQ said:
Can't say for sure...botanicare makes world class products no doubt.

Though it's not uncommon for nutrient manufacturers to be forced or choose to source different raw materials as inputs for their ferts. Whether this is or has been the case with pbp can only be speculated.

have been running pure blend nutrients even before the pro line, and the nutrient profile has changed slightly over time. just my opinion

desertsquirrel · Feb 15, 2012

what kinda changes are you noticing?

johnnyrex · Feb 23, 2012

desertsquirrel said:
So after talking with daniel (who was extremely helpful and professional) i have come up with the initial profiles for the 3 UC systems im going to run.... any input would be helpful...

PBP (living) - UC-XXL X16

2.5 ml cal-mag
7.5 ml PBP Hydro Bloom
.6 ml Roots exel
Aquashield
superthrive
Protek to 5.4

CNS 17 (sterile) - UC-XXL X16

9ml CNS 17 Hydro bloom
1ml Zone
add .27
protek to 5.4

H&G (sterile) - UC-XXL X32

1.5 ml cal-mag
4 ml H&G A
4ml H&G B
1 ml zone
add .27
protek to 5.4

I have not decided if i will crown feed bennies in the living system as of yet... other then that these profiles are designed to not alter during the course of the grow with the exception of pk boosters during flower (most likely shooting powder or the FF boosters) and of course flush...

I have been toying with 1/2 str of the 1/2 str for the first 2 weeks after seeing some very nice looking pics at around 300-350 ppm on here... Any thoughts?

Ill post the actual available ppm for these profiles tonight when i have some more time....

And here are the 2 small UC’s.....

DS were you running this H&G profile during veg phase 3 or flower? Thanks for the input

rollon · Feb 24, 2012

desertsquirrel said:
what kinda changes are you noticing?

sorry D.S. for not responding earlier, was distracted by the alien drop.over time there were slight differences. at one point i used to just use the bloom formula during veg, because the veg formula had too much nitrogen to keep my plants short and thick. uchq hit it right on the head,organic components are not exact. i think bontanicare even knows this.i would like to thank this undercurrent forum u guys are cutting edge

PrefersHam · Aug 9, 2012

desertsquirrel · Aug 10, 2012

nice ham.. i love this thread.

ElusiveQuark · Aug 18, 2012

Bump x 2 in last 24 hrs. Exchange between DS and UCMENOW makes this one of the most informative threads re: fast hydro anywhere. Cheers!

desertsquirrel · Aug 20, 2012

Haha thanks man

johnnyrex · Aug 23, 2012

Hello DS wanted to know that when your PH is at the point of being lowered back to 5.4 in veg I'm havIng the problem that I put the ph down but it doesn't stay it creeps up fast again. I have to stay there and continue to put ph down until its stays at 5.4 even then it takes a long time for it to stay after a lot of attempts. What do you do? Just put enough so it reaches 5.4 and let it swing up to 6.4 in veg even if that swing in a 3 day period? Thanks

johnnyrex · Aug 23, 2012

Also do you keep those temp and rH until what part do you change your temp and RH and how much thanks

desertsquirrel · Aug 23, 2012

In general, you want to see rapid swings. It is simply indicating ion exchange in the rhizosphere.

rh around 60 and temps about 78-80 (w co2) and 74-76 w/o. You want to start dipping temps down 5-10 degrees and rh down to 40-50 for the last 2-3 weeks.

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