Ohiofarmer said:

ran 6.5 miles squatted, bicep-tricep, dabbed some beautiful concentrate, now i'm drinkin carrot-apple-beet-kale-spinach-orange-red/green chard-blueberry juice (I'll hafta come up with a abbreviation) haha, gonna go pick the 2nd bloom of strawberries and a few jalapenos and a couple romas if their ripened, go see my brothas, couple vodka and crans maybe some fishing, football game, finish the night off strong in the jungle, then a blueberry bomber to coax me to sleep. badda bing badda boom. thats my day:D

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Think Ill take a nap. I win

Seamaiden said:

Huh, we're kind of doing the same sorts of things, urban. Yard work, putting up cameras, I fucked up a shipping label and instead of trying again to deliver, the post office is returning my package. I really don't like using a keyboard that doesn't have a 10-key pad to the right, I've been using 10-key since freshman year of high school, and I know where the 5 is.

Since we're clearing out so much manzanita, we're losing it as a visual screen between us and Lefty up the hill, so I've been putting together a list of plants to put in, and I need (really seriously prefer) evergreens. So I'm thinking that maybe Green Acres would be a good place to go, unless someone in the Sact'o/foothill/Mother Lode region has any suggestions otherwise. I know we have a lot of nurseries out on the flats, but I haven't had good luck going through our local yellow pages, and Google is showing me weird locations. I have the following plants on my list, I am Sunset West zone 7:

Cedar (native incense cedar)
Oleander
Sequoia sempervirens
Laurus nobilis (sweet bay)
Umbellaria californica (California laurel/California bay)
Rhaphiolepis 'Majestic Beauty' (or similar for zone 7)
Loquat
Evergreen huckleberry; Vaccinium ovatum
Spruce of some sort
Feijoa
Artemisia (wormwood, does great out here)
Rosemary, both culinary and medicinal
Lavendar, culinary and medicinal
Mountain hemlock (?)
Abelia x grandiflora

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Seamaiden look into Bamboo, many different species and they grow fast, real fast up to 30' high.

Zoner, I have looked at it, but I want the screen as close to the fence-line as possible, and many species that are suitable for my climate are invasive. We already have a troubled relationship with Lefty as it is. Many species come with a warning about their invasiveness. Do you have any suggestions for specific species that won't be quite so problematic about that?

Just finished making tea so all girls will be getting a good dose of beneficials today. Also had two in rapid rooters start showing roots overnight so they will be going into 1 gal pots. My Bubba Jones and Lucenda are going into 5 gal pots as well and will join the Purple Jones for the next run. Everything is lined up and waiting...n0w if the ones in flower would just finish. ha ha! Beginning to realize....this is a lot of work. Life is good.

I think it's time to toss the home-made aerocloner. I lost all cuttings I had in there trying to get roots. Kept getting slimed, kept using H2O2 and reinoculating with beneficials and haven't been able to get rid of it. In a last ditch effort to safe what plant material was left I went back to soil, but they all shriveled up two days later. I can't seem to get that aerocloner sterilized well enough that it doesn't become slimy. And, being the organic gal I am, no antibiotics for this kind of problem. Maybe it's time to learn how to use rockwool.

Seamaiden said:

I think it's time to toss the home-made aerocloner. I lost all cuttings I had in there trying to get roots. Kept getting slimed, kept using H2O2 and reinoculating with beneficials and haven't been able to get rid of it. In a last ditch effort to safe what plant material was left I went back to soil, but they all shriveled up two days later. I can't seem to get that aerocloner sterilized well enough that it doesn't become slimy. And, being the organic gal I am, no antibiotics for this kind of problem. Maybe it's time to learn how to use rockwool.

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I keep it simple, rapid rooters, clone dome and caps beneficials, nothing else. I am getting over 80% to show roots. Takes around 10 days to start showing and by 16 days most all have rooted.

Seamaiden said:

Zoner, I have looked at it, but I want the screen as close to the fence-line as possible, and many species that are suitable for my climate are invasive. We already have a troubled relationship with Lefty as it is. Many species come with a warning about their invasiveness. Do you have any suggestions for specific species that won't be quite so problematic about that?

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Hey Seamaiden,
I have been looking for some none invasive Bamboo to place onto my property just to create a kind of blind around the area I will be clearing., want to mix it in to the native tree line area.
I did come across this site, but need to find this Bamboo.



ZONER....:-)

got business orders out, kids off to school, got to clean the yard a bit and hopefully avoid the heat.

Seamaiden said:

I think it's time to toss the home-made aerocloner. I lost all cuttings I had in there trying to get roots. Kept getting slimed, kept using H2O2 and reinoculating with beneficials and haven't been able to get rid of it. In a last ditch effort to safe what plant material was left I went back to soil, but they all shriveled up two days later. I can't seem to get that aerocloner sterilized well enough that it doesn't become slimy. And, being the organic gal I am, no antibiotics for this kind of problem. Maybe it's time to learn how to use rockwool.

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i despise aero cloners but the one thing that will work is chlorine instead of peroxide if you keep getting slimed.
when i was the assistant grower for the disp i would take 200+ cut a week and rooted them in rockwool cubes. The key for me was to take a cup of water, probably 6-8 oz and add about 1oz of 3% peroxide. as i took the cuts they went directly to the cup of water/peroxide to soak for a few minutes. than a dip in rootech or whatever and into the starter cube. i rarely lost a clone that received the peroxide soak. (the "grower" at that dump couldnt root anything, because he handled the cuts with dirty hands, never sterilized his knife, never sterilized the clones, etc)

i too have been having a hellofa time with cuts.....tried in dirt, cubes, homemade aero I have thought it was just due to heat. Ill try your ideas!

summitoker said:

i despise aero cloners but the one thing that will work is chlorine instead of peroxide if you keep getting slimed.
when i was the assistant grower for the disp i would take 200+ cut a week and rooted them in rockwool cubes. The key for me was to take a cup of water, probably 6-8 oz and add about 1oz of 3% peroxide. as i took the cuts they went directly to the cup of water/peroxide to soak for a few minutes. than a dip in rootech or whatever and into the starter cube. i rarely lost a clone that received the peroxide soak. (the "grower" at that dump couldnt root anything, because he handled the cuts with dirty hands, never sterilized his knife, never sterilized the clones, etc)

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I started off with bleach, but thought the peroxide would be better. I've also been using isopropyl alcohol, literally soaking everything in it as best I can.

I'll do the peroxide soak as well, thanks. How much bleach do you recommend using? I've gone as high as 1C/5gals.

urbanfog said:

i too have been having a hellofa time with cuts.....tried in dirt, cubes, homemade aero I have thought it was just due to heat. Ill try your ideas!

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mee three
i need a chiller or somethin.

cleaning up to open up shop again ...... can't deal with anymore down time ... been 6 months and nothing so f@#$ it...... let the games continue.....

Seamaiden said:

I started off with bleach, but thought the peroxide would be better. I've also been using isopropyl alcohol, literally soaking everything in it as best I can.

I'll do the peroxide soak as well, thanks. How much bleach do you recommend using? I've gone as high as 1C/5gals.

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Here you go, copied and pasted from icmag.....this is for using the powdered pool shock(chlorine)

If you think cloning is easy and doesn't take any effort at all, and you can't understand why anyone would have any problems. Congratulations, I envy you. This thread is not for you. Please move on.

I know exactly how you feel. Cloning can be one of the most aggravating parts of gardening. For so many people they have such an easy time with cloning. I have read stories over and over about how some people just take a pair of rusty scissors, make a cut, and just stick a cutting in some random medium. Then have roots in a few days. While I am so happy for them, it drives me crazy!

If you are like me and have researched just about every forum, forum thread, article, etc to learn the secret combination that could solve my cloning problem, you will notice some very interesting patterns.

One of those in particular is that there are many people who have been cloning successfully for years and years, and then they move to a new location and can't clone for the life of them.

I have heard many people attribute this to some "mystery of cloning", dumb luck, bad luck, etc. This has never sat well with me because in theory, if all elements are the same, the result should be the same. Which lead me to the belief that there must be a missing link in cloning that is not obvious, and is causing SOME people to fail miserably, and or just take a very long time to get clones to root.

Not by a discovery of my own, but some random thread I found recently, I believe (for some of us, this is not inclusive) that link may have been found. WATER

I know the idea of quality water is not new to cloning. Just about every manual, article, forum post, etc talks about it. Though there is a particular aspect that I have not seen discussed until recently. CHLORINE levels in the WATER. Or calcium hypochlorite/soduim hypochlorite.

Interesting enough, this really isn't a new discovery. Cities, Agricultural Industries, and other businesses have been using CHLORINE for over 200 years as a safe way to sterilize water. So in fact, the very water that you have coming out of your faucet, may contain a low level of CHLORINE. At low levels it is considered safe and used on a very large scale. Even biologists and the agricultural industry believe that plants actually require chlorine (low levels) as a key element and helps them thrive.

So, getting to the point finally, we all live in different places. Each one with different water sources. Some on city water (with varying water treatment techniques) and others with well water. I would safely bet that the mass majority of us are using city water and that city water contains chlorine. Personally, I have well water and not city water.

So recently I experimented with adding calcium hypochlorite (shock chlorine) to my well water for my clones. I also ran clones without any chlorine added. Everything else being the same. Guess what. I got roots in 6 days with the chlorinated clones. It was an ah ha! moment!

So the thread that I read that lead me to this point was written by this person who tried a relatively new product on the market made by EZ-Clone called "Clear-Res". Clear-RES is used by adding 5ml (of clear-res) per gallon of water and re-added every 3 days in the same amount. This product is relatively new, but if you search around you will find that the people who use it have pure success. So anyway, this person checked out the ingredients of Clear-Res and discovered that it was simply Chlorine water in a bottle. 16oz of chlorine water for $20. Two and two together, an experiment was done to discover how much pool chlorine would be needed to reproduce the same strength found in Clear-Res. Using a non-ph buffered pool shock (or pure calcium-hypoclorite) that you can commonly find at most hardware stores and walmart, the formula was discovered.

Here it is:

Basically, this pool shock comes in powered form.
1 gram of this powdered chlorine should be mixed into 1 gallon of water, to make what is almost an exact replacement for a bottle of Clear-Res.
Then, once you have this bottle of chlorine water, you would use 1 liquid oz per 5 gallons of water. Repeat every 3 days.

Well! I know one other thing I'll be doing today, thanks!

This is what I'm doing today..:facepalm:
:depressed: Trimming sucks but I need the Bucks ;)

Damn ken looking good man! Much luck with ur trimmin

caregiverken said:

This is what I'm doing today..:facepalm:
:depressed: Trimming sucks but I need the Bucks ;)
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God damn it, Ken! That's gotta come with a warning label. :D

DAMMMMMMMMMMMM

:D Leafy as fuck and I suck at trimming. If I was better at it, I probably wouldn't hate it so much..
I trim for a half hour,,and take a half hour break...lol

Gotta pace myself ya know...;)