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Why do people grow autos?

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No advantages? I think someone is rather biased


The bolded part above is simply not true. Autos will never have the potentcy you can find in Photos, period. There are 0 autos that exists that can produce buds over 30% THC. Or at least I havent found one yet. This is because they have had to be crossed with a ruderalis at some point down the line to get the auto flowering characteristic. Ruderalis has little to no THC. So once they managed to get proper autos bred in the first place, they then have to cross and back cross multiple times to both retain the autoflowering, AND get the THC up higher. Todays autos are getting pretty good, with THC levels Ive seen in the mid 20's. However, photos can get up to the mid 30s.

There is one very solid advantage to autos. Seed to harvest in as little as 50 days. In photos, 50 days is a rather short "flowering period", after 3 or more weeks of veg. With an auto, thats your entire grow. You can have upwards of 5 or maybe 6 harvests per year, from seed, without any overlap. So a single room, a single light, and every 50 days youve got 1-2 pounds of dry bud from a single 4x4. Photos cant compete with that timeline without multiple rooms, multiple lights and overlapping veg and flower for each run.

That being said, I refuse to grow autos lol.
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i see constantly lab report of mephisto genetics being higher then 30% thc
 
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Funny this post pops up. I just went and saw a bean buddy and bought two packs of seeds and then got a free one. I decided I would try his wedding cake auto strain. Lots of locals have enjoyed the grow with these seeds and the quality of smoke they produce. So I thought what the hell. Haven't grown any autos in a decade or better....
 
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DanC520 said:
sure, ok… lol
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Wow thought we were at the Farm. Place seems more like RIU with this thread.
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Well they do suck. You have a diff male every batch to start with so even if you find something you like,it's not like you're checking for male characteristics,just putting 2 together and hoping then it's lost unless you get real lucky. Are the ruderalis plants tested over and over like a good breeder does with males? I bet not. But as I said earlier whatever works ,this is just IMO,I don't care what others grow ,this is an opinionated platform,along with fem seeds flooding markets ,soon reg seeds will be scarce and genepool diversity fades.
 
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In my experience the haters on autos have never had a successful run, they are not for beginners, stick with photos until you get a few grows under your belt. But autos are very potent you just need to know how to grow them, grow what makes you happy.
 
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In my experience the haters on autos have never had a successful run, they are not for beginners, stick with photos until you get a few grows under your belt. But autos are very potent you just need to know how to grow them, grow what makes you happy.
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I fully agree grow with what makes you happy. If autos are harder to grow as you imply,it's even less desirable.
 
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Pushrod Monkey said:
Uh, why? Seriously.
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To trigger you, of course. Was I successful, sir?
 
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To trigger you, of course. Was I successful, sir?
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Oh no. I’m used to dummies of all sorts.
 
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Your post is wrong, sir. You can clone autos and even reset their internal growth clock using plant tissue culture propagation.



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But the advantage of cloning an auto is just more plants,it still has a death sentence as a strain.
 
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I have my first autos growing now .
Just decided to give them a try ?
I started mine in solo cups against conventional auto wisdom.
I just chose them so I can harvest in August and leave my photos to finish as they will.
My thread is where I keep track of them .
I have 18 that I just moved from indoor tent to small greenhouse .
I'll update my thread[ see signature ] today when I am done up potting the autos . Again against conventional auto wisdom..
 
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Nah,autoflowers suck,to say they are good is silly
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This is a constant debate I grow both a run an occasion a great auto usually from beans on the farm, not packed breeder crap , but get more consistent with photos - more control , to run good autos u gotta be on top of ur game ! Lol
 
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steamroller said:
I have my first autos growing now .
Just decided to give them a try ?
I started mine in solo cups against conventional auto wisdom.
I just chose them so I can harvest in August and leave my photos to finish as they will.
My thread is where I keep track of them .
I have 18 that I just moved from indoor tent to small greenhouse .
I'll update my thread[ see signature ] today when I am done up potting the autos . Again against conventional auto wisdom..
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I start mind in solos - transplant early to avoid stress is all ur fine
 
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This is a constant debate I grow both a run an occasion a great auto usually from beans on the farm, not packed breeder crap , but get more consistent with photos - more control , to run good autos u gotta be on top of ur game ! Lol
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Maybe I've overlooked something but the advantage over photo period seem to be it is easier, not having to deal with light cycles and a predictible finish date if the supplier is accurate,you could get a grow with autos in before sexing photos,but photo you now have clones so you make up time (but it is more involved and perhaps it's not an option so that makes sense). Now photos are head to head and some photo strains will beat an auto from clone in flowering,so the time you initially gained now you will keep losing as the clones will grow into monsters the following year for outdoor use as well, easily out producing any auto. Obviously this is for people who also grow indoors for preservation,people get offended and that's crazy,I couldn't care less if someone told me photos sucked,I'll grow what works for me and my situation,it's just a debate.
 
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Wow, this is the thread that wouldn't die, isn't it?

I grow to find new strains and phenos I'd like to keep. In other words, a hater.
 
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Maybe I've overlooked something but the advantage over photo period seem to be it is easier, not having to deal with light cycles and a predictible finish date if the supplier is accurate,you could get a grow with autos in before sexing photos,but photo you now have clones so you make up time (but it is more involved and perhaps it's not an option so that makes sense). Now photos are head to head and some photo strains will beat an auto from clone in flowering,so the time you initially gained now you will keep losing as the clones will grow into monsters the following year for outdoor use as well, easily out producing any auto. Obviously this is for people who also grow indoors for preservation,people get offended and that's crazy,I couldn't care less if someone told me photos sucked,I'll grow what works for me and my situation,it's just a debate.
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People get offended at everything these days. It is super funny. Also everyone knows everything which is also funny to me.
 
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Maybe I've overlooked something but the advantage over photo period seem to be it is easier, not having to deal with light cycles and a predictible finish date if the supplier is accurate,you could get a grow with autos in before sexing photos,but photo you now have clones so you make up time (but it is more involved and perhaps it's not an option so that makes sense). Now photos are head to head and some photo strains will beat an auto from clone in flowering,so the time you initially gained now you will keep losing as the clones will grow into monsters the following year for outdoor use as well, easily out producing any auto. Obviously this is for people who also grow indoors for preservation,people get offended and that's crazy,I couldn't care less if someone told me photos sucked,I'll grow what works for me and my situation,it's just a debate.
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Some photos will finish from seed faster than some autos. I just cut one 72 days from sprout.
 
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to answer the thread, im a beginner and have limited space. and after some research, it seemed that going with good genetic autoflower was the easiest way to get myself started in the path of growing my own weed. my first mephisto genetics grow is going quite nicely and i expect ill have plenty of weed till my next grow cycle.
eventually ill also try good photo to understand the differences. kinda suck to know that the general consensus is that overall photo are superior. live and learn i guess haha
 
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I can’t smoke it for you. So I guess have to take my word for it. I might not be the most experienced grower, though I ain’t bad, but smoking? Confident in my resume in that regard. Autos are fine.



 
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I can’t smoke it for you. So I guess have to take my word for it. I might not be the most experienced grower, though I ain’t bad, but smoking? Confident in my resume in that regard. Autos are fine.

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They look beautiful. But are they better than the best photo?
 
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doubtful. But better than plenty I’ve smoke and seen. Difference negligible IMO. If cloning/breeding not in your plans, then I see no reason to avoid them. On a day to day, they go toe to toe with other smoke out there. Not like I have wagyu and crystal with every meal.
 
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to answer the thread, im a beginner and have limited space. and after some research, it seemed that going with good genetic autoflower was the easiest way to get myself started in the path of growing my own weed. my first mephisto genetics grow is going quite nicely and i expect ill have plenty of weed till my next grow cycle.
eventually ill also try good photo to understand the differences. kinda suck to know that the general consensus is that overall photo are superior. live and learn i guess haha
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The problem with autos is there on a time line and if anything goes wrong your screwed. The time needed to correct a issue or issues is very compressed. Take one of my current photo grows in mid flower. Wife got sick,,, ended up in the hospital,,, she trumps weed grows. Grow got abused during that time. I no more than get her home and work at fixing the grow and we have historic storms and flooding, loosing power and environmental conditions go to crap. Then I go to feed last Thursday, open up my dry ferts I've been using for years and they have went bad and now smell like the remains of drowning victims. Not wanting to order more of those ferts because this was going to be my last run with them I switch gears to Nectar of the Gods that I'm using on another grow. Any one of those three issues could severely hurt if not destroy a auto grow. Throw all three in and it's up there at disaster levels for a auto grow. And truth be known it darn sure didn't help my photo grow one bit. But I still have time to work on the grow and keep it a worthwhile grow. I can slow the grow down a bit and pull another 6 to 7 days out of the grow time line pretty easy and work at spiffing up the photo grow. If it was a auto grow I might be able to pull 2 extra days out of the grow. But once you start that auto grow clock it's like a time bomb,,, the clock is ticking.
 
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