11 On And 13 Off

[cannabeans]

Thank you for all the responses!!!!
I am only growing personal so I dont mind the slight loss in yield. I am hoping to bring out more purple hues without lowering my night time temps!

 

[hawkman]

Yes. I do. View attachment 666797
Here is the side by side I did.

Took me a minute to find it.
Peace

Thanks great report !!!!! So one must decide over quality vs yield ?

 

[hawkman]

Thank you for all the responses!!!!
I am only growing personal so I dont mind the slight loss in yield. I am hoping to bring out more purple hues without lowering my night time temps!

Perfer quality over yield like you

 

[hawkman]

If you want different expressions them play with temp changes and ultraviolets.... 11/13 just saves money and heat in the summer.

Good cycle during summer months

 

[PhatNuggz]

Uh that's a tough call, i don't have enough experiance with these cycles yet to be able to tell you with confidence what to expect. I would say try it!

Cool Avatar. I had one of those decades ago

 

[hawkman]

If where going by natural outdoor lighting, than my plants never see over 15 hours of daylight for veg, and my indicas and hybrids are done the first week of October with my daylight hours at 11.6 .
Doing single strain runs, I start my flowering at 13/11 for the first 3 weeks. Then 12/12 till finished.

I guess early changes in light might be the way to go when starting flower cycle

 

[PhatNuggz]

IMHO, even though we grow indoors, within the dna of the seeds is the light cycle of life. Obviously, the plant will adapt, but what can be gained by being a bit more life cycle friendly, including temps, humidity and of course hours of light?

Now, we may not need to follow them to a "T", but instead of slamming from 18/6 (too long anyway) to 12/12 (doesn't really signal the plant beyond the initial drop, why not do what we can to meet somewhere in the middle?

 

[NaturalTherapy]

I'll never understand why ignorant people make comments without the experience or understanding to justify them. A lot of you have clearly never experimented with it so you shouldn't be contributing. Sorry for being a dick, sitting with my unresponsive brother in the hospital, no patience today...

Anyway...
On most strains 11/13 has a huge effect, especially landrace sativas or landrace sativa hybrids.

I have a Thai plant that goes as long as 16 weeks under 12/12. Attenuating the lighting schedule will see her completely mature in 12 weeks, with fatter buds and tighter growth overall. At 12/12 she doesn't really form buds, more like bracts on a stick.

I do 12/12 through transition (first two weeks, then 11/13 for eight weeks, finishing the last two weeks at 10/14. If you're able to drop humidity and temperature to coincide with lighting changes you will notice even more dramatic finishing expressions.

As for yield decreasing, maybe with some strains, don't notice it with sativas. As for potency decreasing I haven't noticed such, but in the spirit of investigation, I have my Thai plant running at both schedules in different rooms to judge that aspect for certain.

Visual example of the same cut grown under different schedules as detailed above.
12/12

Harvested at day 84 under 11/13-10/14

Bud shots
12/12

Not 12/12

 

[THELORAX802]

Just a quicky, Ruderalis plants? why?

 

[Seamaiden]

sitting with my unresponsive brother in the hospital

I am SO sorry to read this. Of course you have a short fuse.

 

[hawkman]

IMHO, even though we grow indoors, within the dna of the seeds is the light cycle of life. Obviously, the plant will adapt, but what can be gained by being a bit more life cycle friendly, including temps, humidity and of course hours of light?

Now, we may not need to follow them to a "T", but instead of slamming from 18/6 (too long anyway) to 12/12 (doesn't really signal the plant beyond the initial drop, why not do what we can to meet somewhere in the middle?

you are so right "genetic's" !!!! the guiding factor

 

[hawkman]

I'll never understand why ignorant people make comments without the experience or understanding to justify them. A lot of you have clearly never experimented with it so you shouldn't be contributing. Sorry for being a dick, sitting with my unresponsive brother in the hospital, no patience today...

Anyway...
On most strains 11/13 has a huge effect, especially landrace sativas or landrace sativa hybrids.

I have a Thai plant that goes as long as 16 weeks under 12/12. Attenuating the lighting schedule will see her completely mature in 12 weeks, with fatter buds and tighter growth overall. At 12/12 she doesn't really form buds, more like bracts on a stick.

I do 12/12 through transition (first two weeks, then 11/13 for eight weeks, finishing the last two weeks at 10/14. If you're able to drop humidity and temperature to coincide with lighting changes you will notice even more dramatic finishing expressions.

As for yield decreasing, maybe with some strains, don't notice it with sativas. As for potency decreasing I haven't noticed such, but in the spirit of investigation, I have my Thai plant running at both schedules in different rooms to judge that aspect for certain.

Visual example of the same cut grown under different schedules as detailed above.
12/12
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Harvested at day 84 under 11/13-10/14View attachment 666830

Bud shots
12/12
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Not 12/12View attachment 666836

great information have Tutahome - bubblegum#2 - Increadible Bulk 2 weeks in to flowering all hybrid strains - thinking of a test

 

[THELORAX802]

you are so right "genetic's" !!!! the guiding factor

My plants love supertramp too it seems. Tell me i havent tested that out? lol!

 

[ShroomKing]

Thanks great report !!!!! So one must decide over quality vs yield ?

I'm not sure that that's necessarily true, that was just the case for the cut of Kimbo Kush that I had. Like anything else I think that phenotype selection is the key. Finding plants that respond positively to the 11-13 light cycle. I think that in todays super polyhybrid genetic dominance Seed Market everything's about selection now.

 

[hawkman]

super polyhybrid - you said it all - there are only a few breeders that offer "lance" strains, ect (ACE, HOLY SMOKES, WORLD OF SEEDS ARE A FEW)

 

[THELORAX802]

COUGH.....................
Golden Tiger Standard
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10 seeds
goldentigerstd$43.02
Ordered: 1
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$43.02
Peyote Purple Standard
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10 seeds
PeyoyePurpleStd$53.78
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SugarLoaf Standard
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10 seeds
SugarLoafStd$53.78
Ordered: 1
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$53.78
Free seeds 10 ACE Mix Standard Freebie
acemixstdfree10$0.00
Ordered: 1
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$0.00

 

[hawkman]

COUGH.....................
Golden Tiger Standard
Seed Packs
10 seeds
goldentigerstd$43.02
Ordered: 1
Shipped: 1
$43.02
Peyote Purple Standard
Seed Packs
10 seeds
PeyoyePurpleStd$53.78
Ordered: 1
Shipped: 1
$53.78
SugarLoaf Standard
Seed Packs
10 seeds
SugarLoafStd$53.78
Ordered: 1
Shipped: 1
$53.78
Free seeds 10 ACE Mix Standard Freebie
acemixstdfree10$0.00
Ordered: 1
Shipped: 1
$0.00

Golden Tiger is really sub-post to be very strong with phyco-delic effect A Golden Tiger , Mawia and their Panama would be 3 strain to grow at once - but if 100% sativa or dominate believe it's best to "top" 3 weeks into veg and after topping but in flower (only 3 week veg, because of strech) what do you think ?

 

[THELORAX802]

The sat heavies will absolutley need to be trained and what maybe 3 week of veg if that?

 

[hawkman]

The sat heavies will absolutley need to be trained and what maybe 3 week of veg if that?

Well if they need it go with it; The ace stains you mentioned are heavy producers sativa's they are easier to train than indica's because of the streatch

 

[cannabeans]

11 on 13 off Looking good so far! Day 26