first off, who are you referring to in this thread that can't grow? i think you better look around before you start running off at the mouth. seems like you're mad because you brought some genetics without doing some research, so instead of pouting and talking about someone needs to be in their garden as oppose to posting on these boards, maybe you need to be more online and less in your garden to prevent making bogus purchases.
all this talk about hearsay and how much relevance it lacks, why are you here or any other board sharing your experience? shit that's in case whatever you say is hearsay and is devoid of actual facts being that i don't know you or didn't experience these genetics for myself.
the fact of the matter is, there's truth to what some are saying about swerve and company, it's well documented. but i guess since you and your people don't know first hand, everyone, including swerve is lying. dude you're a lame to say the least.
i don't know about everyone else, but from your words, this thread is useless (being that no one but you is growing these out at this very moment) and deserve no credit for you doing so.