you know brother i knew something went down but i don't know what it was. i try not to get into the mix when someone is upset over something that doesn't have anything to do with me. i'm a very short tempered person but i also cool off as quick, and i think that pisses folks off too. that is like the day we were talking about hippies, i said i wasn't a hippie. i may have a ponytail half way down my back, and that i was a little biker, and a whole lot of redneck. in general i try to keep to myself. i did have a problem with smokingmom when i first went to the site, but i can say it was started by others and i got drug into it. rose, and hammie was the only reason i stayed when all the others left. i know you don't care for hammie but again i don't know what went on. it's not like we are all gonna see eye to eye, but on the other side of that i have met some great folks even though most of use have not met face to face.