Mike Pence, Trump’s Vp Pick, Is Bad News For Cannabis Reform

[xavier7995]

It's all Hanukkah round here yo!

 

[nazarbattu]

Bernie come back, once Hillary' s health surfaces?

 

[xavier7995]

It's a pipe dream, her health just isn't a real issue imho. Would love it as that was my preferred candidate but eh. Sure would have been nice to have sanders or Biden in there to try and deliver a huge, dare I say yuuuuge, victory, but what can you do.

The role of the media has been fascinating this round, just as an aside.

 

[LocalGrowGuy]

It's a pipe dream, her health just isn't a real issue imho. Would love it as that was my preferred candidate but eh. Sure would have been nice to have sanders or Biden in there to try and deliver a huge, dare I say yuuuuge, victory, but what can you do.

The role of the media has been fascinating this round, just as an aside.

Scott Adams who writes Dilbert has a fantastically simple prediction about what could happen between now and election day.

 

[nazarbattu]

Do you guys believe there is autonomy within any of the three checks and balances of our government? Are the judicial, legislative and executive branches really separate from each other? For instance what's stopping the judicial branch from backing a candidate to sway the power of the judicial branch with both the 9nth supreme Court Justice and the new president in their pocket....because I think the corruption of leadership is sourced from the rotting legislative branch.

 

[xavier7995]

I would agree. Nowadays I am of the opinion parties don't really matter, it's simply those in power doing whatever to maintain it. The house and Senate are able to break the populace into subgroups for control. They can pitch crumbs to their constituents on a local scale while colluding with each other for much grander plans.


Could go on some crazy rambles.

 

[LocalGrowGuy]

Do you guys believe there is autonomy within any of the three checks and balances of our government? Are the judicial, legislative and executive branches really separate from each other? For instance what's stopping the judicial branch from backing a candidate to sway the power of the judicial branch with both the 9nth supreme Court Justice and the new president in their pocket....because I think the corruption of leadership is sourced from the rotting legislative branch.

I don't think the three branches mean much anymore, it's all about the R's and D's and courting the independents who are gaining even more independents.

While I have never wanted to throw away my vote, I have voted my entire adult life. At this point, it is appalling to me that Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are candidates for the the president of the USA. That sounds like the beginning of a bad joke. We have a solid third backing Hillary, a third backing trump although most won't admit it, and now we have a third of us who are independents. Obviously the two parties do not want to allow anyone else to be an option, so they shit on independents, tell them they are wasting a vote etc. Anyone who wants to vote for johnson or anyone else should do so. If independents can get their collective shit together, they might get to 15% to join the debates. I think once we get a non-D or non-R into the race our two party system will go away. I can't wait for that. I would gladly sacrifice my vote this year as a means to an end of this shitty system that rewards crooks and liars. What those assholes do in washington is fucking criminal.

Do you think the judicial branch of our government can sway that many people? There aren't enough voters in that block to influence much of anything. I would all branches of our government are rotting away.

 

[Evil Monkey]

One thing our founding fathers never thought of.......the term career politician. The founding fathers served mostly because people asked them too. George Washington was brought back how many times to serve. FDR had so many terms in office that congress enacted the 2 term limit. Curious the same rule doesn't apply for congress. People in positions of power eventually get corrupted by it, if left alone to bask in their own delusion of grandeur. Every office in this country should have term limits period. If left in office long enough lobbyist become very close to our representatives. Looking out for their best interest. The party system is broken, they have to vote party lines or guess what, the party won't support their re-election. BROKEN SYSTEM!!!!

 

[Objector30]

Chris Christie is with Trump and we all know what he thinks about cannabis consumers. That really says it all. The America that Trump is promising is never coming back. We are not rolling back to a manufacturing economy and women and minorities are not going to willingly return to the back of the bus. That said I don't believe the globalist corporatist neoliberal Clinton is a bowl of sunshine either. We are in a bad spot this cycle. To be honest I'd take Obama for another 4 years so we could get some better options to replace him than these clowns. Since that is impossible I would go with the lesser of two evils who for me is the candidate who pisses people off less and will not nominate guys like Christie to the Supreme court or for Attorney General. Since I am in CA I am writing in Sanders since Clinton will win the state no matter what BUT she could always croak. If I were in a swing state then I would vote for Clinton or maybe Jill Stein if Clinton was polling really well. Sometimes you have to make ugly choices but Trump, if not a D plant, reminds me most of Senator Kelly from X-Men. Totally unacceptable.

 

[Evil Monkey]

Just curious what opinions are on Gary Johnson? I would at least like him to reach 15% so he would be in debates however I doubt this will happen. That is one favorable view on cannabis.

 

[Psychonaut47]

We need a third party president before the republicrats ruin what's left of the American dream.

 

[Evil Monkey]

We need a third party president before the republicrats ruin what's left of the American dream.

I agree with one exception it's both parties that's ruining the American Dream. It's a scary thought what our country will be when my two little ones grow up.

 

[Psychonaut47]

I agree with one exception it's both parties that's ruining the American Dream. It's a scary thought what our country will be when my two little ones grow up.

"republicrats" are both party's fronting like opponents. ..maybe a decent metaphor would be how we arm train and prep our war oppositions...Republicans created Democrats as an illusionary opponent puppet mastered by the elite to appear as the opposition...a Democrat is a Republican who can't control the platform and compromises too much with the opposition


Hopefully Ron Paul survives long enough to run next election as a libertarian or independant...a Mexican can dream can't he???

 

[xavier7995]

Just curious what opinions are on Gary Johnson? I would at least like him to reach 15% so he would be in debates however I doubt this will happen. That is one favorable view on cannabis.

I want to like him, but I don't agree with his tax policies (consumption tax based) or desire to close down the dept. Of education. I flirt with backing libertarians but always find something that is a deal killer in the details of their plans. What I do like is their beliefs seem kind of fluid so you have to actually read about their candidates before backing them. Railing against fractional banking and wanting to go back to the gold standard used to be what turned me off when Ron Paul was their guy.

Edit: would have liked to see him in the debates but he is Nader-ing this cycle for the dems.

 

[LocalGrowGuy]

We need a third party president before the republicrats ruin what's left of the American dream.

How do you propose we go about this? Do we ask nicely, make sure we say please and thank you, and hope that democrats and republicans let us play?

I want to like him, but I don't agree with his tax policies (consumption tax based) or desire to close down the dept. Of education. I flirt with backing libertarians but always find something that is a deal killer in the details of their plans. What I do like is their beliefs seem kind of fluid so you have to actually read about their candidates before backing them. Railing against fractional banking and wanting to go back to the gold standard used to be what turned me off when Ron Paul was their guy.

Edit: would have liked to see him in the debates but he is Nader-ing this cycle for the dems.

I'm stealing this and not giving you credit. Thanks!

 

[Psychonaut47]

How do you propose we go about this? Do we ask nicely, make sure we say please and thank you, and hope that democrats and republicans let us play?

I'm stealing this and not givi
ng you credit. Thanks!

1. We follow our energy coherently, where it comes from and where it goes.
2. We eradicate planned obsolescence
3. Vote for NO ONE. Taxation without representation...we have to know the difference between what the platform is and what the controlled message is.

The controlled message is what should represent us not the phony platform we see time and time again get ignored once office is taken.


#3 Is the seed of evolution, revolution is more of the same cycle and martyrs have taken their movements with them to the grave leaving remnants that spawn an altered message.

It appears to me that we need a human candidate and not a political robot. If this person is not born, we need to breed her/him/them...someone of the likes of MLK, Mother teresa, Banazir Bhutto, Amaru Shakur, Malcolm Gladwell, Terence Mckenna...someone who can sever themselves from the illusion of self-gratification and submit to the despair and human necessities of the disempowered.

 

[xavier7995]

I think you have too many threads going man? This one isn't insurance related. Or maybe I am still just mystified by the magnificent Jaden smith's life hacks....which could go an awful long way towards what I said about backgrounds and life experience altering perceptions of the same sort of facts.

 

[LocalGrowGuy]

I think you have too many threads going man? This one isn't insurance related. Or maybe I am still just mystified by the magnificent Jaden smith's life hacks....which could go an awful long way towards what I said about backgrounds and life experience altering perceptions of the same sort of facts.

this. and I am still trying to get on jaden's level but I can't fit my head that far up my ass.

 

[xavier7995]

So I found myself getting a bit too fired up about politics lately and switched over to reading mostly science based stuff, wired/popular mechanics/etc. Man it sure is refreshing.

That said...anybody get swayed one way or the other by the debates? I don't think trump performed well enough to sway any undecided voters, clinton did ok and I bet will pick up a few, though I do think she left quite a bit on the table and should have gone after him a bit more on some of the nonsense answers that were given. I did laugh really damn hard at some of trumps fails "CALL SEAN HANNITY, COME ON EVERYONE, CALL SEAN, HE WILL TELL YOU BELIEVE ME.!"

 

[Psychonaut47]

Jill stein was causing a scene outside the debate gaining grounds. Don't be surprised if she crashes the next debate...