Does The Real True Old School Og Kush Exist Anymore?

[Judaz]

This is how the PROS grow cannabis indoors. I can tell a real room all day. This is textbook. Growers of this caliber are light years beyond most home hobby setups like tents. I have no doubt at all hes pulling 2.5 plus per lamp. Even real Og. Its a notorious low yielder because most dont know how to work the strain and the exact techniques and numbers with the right setup and equipment to pull tue weight thats possible. If he ran something of less quality but a naturally bigger yield commercial strain like Blue Dream...he would or could pull 3 or 4 plus pounds per lamp. No doubt at all. Its all about having the right equipment ...no glass/air cooled - use Double Ended hps like Gavitas or P.L - sealed room with co2. , mini split, & commercial dehuey - use a net trellis with tables on casters - use coco or rockwool hugos on a drip to waste - Dosatrons for the win - the right strain (only one) and work it to find the right plant count and veg times for max yield. And having the techniques down like plant canopy management and feed strength. Cats like Judaz make it easier for growers because if you have the right setup....you dont need 1 to 4 runs dialing it in before you hit weight. Hes willing to tell us all what you need to do if you already have the cut. The free information if you apply it like hes telling you will save you time and money. Your already one up out the gate.

Thanks bro. I didn’t figure this all out over night. It was many years of trial and error to get here. I started hitting 1.25 a light when I first Did hoods indoors years ago

 

[Pimples]

Thanks bro. I didn’t figure this all out over night. It was many years of trial and error to get here. I started hitting 1.25 a light when I first Did hoods indoors years ago

I been growing indoors for well over 25 years as well. I run just 8x Gavita flex 6/750's in a 7 foot Michigan basement. Its low but I get away with it. 600 watt setting only. They blow single endeds away for sure. Iam a caregiver and have to grow variety. I stilk hit very good weight for multi strain growing. Sealing the room up with ac/dehuey and Gavitas a few years back really increased my numbers. Ive always used co2 but until I went sealed room I like many other growers only thought I saw an increase in weight for years. Marginal at best. Just wasting it with vented rooms and hoods. Rockwool blocks and slabs and the occasional pot of coco drip to waste for me all day. Getting Dosatrons soon and leaving the tank nute reservoirs in the dust.

 

[Shamus]

the info with the ceilings really helped me @Judaz

have u noticed a decrease in terpenes at all? or quality?

I’ve just heard horror stories of like terps depleting due to temps and light intensity.

 

[Pimples]

I never said hes a bad grower. In fact I said the opposite. I said 3-3.5 is near scandalous claims.. the man has a point and my experience with DE bulbs is limited.

I’ve been out of the game for a year or two and just getting back into things focusing on getting everything back that I had more so.. also I’m done growing weed honestly like for another year or two But prices are plummeting, I’m focusing on exclusive cultivars I make myself and keep in HOUSE. I’m not investing into a facility at this point because if you don’t have a brand u don’t have shit IMO.
I’m at a point where I could make more money sending herb to fuckin LA then I do on the east fuckin coast. (I DONT LIVE ON THE WEST COAST) lol
When the FUCK has that ever been possible?
Hahaha
And that’s because I grow hype, yeah talk shit about it whatever but hey..
exclusive hype genetics are our meal tickets over competition.

A national and even international cannabis scene isn’t far off

U gonna be a pioneer or the mother fucker selling shovels

Respect to ya. And I know about forum grower weight tall tales. I usually just ignore the posts that I know for fact that are bullshit with yield. But you called homie a liar. And just telling from the photos of his setup and posts about what hes talking about..if you know how pro rooms are setup..its no lie about his weight claims. This one is legit. Anyways...carry on.

 

[Judaz]

the info with the ceilings really helped me @Judaz

have u noticed a decrease in terpenes at all? or quality?

I’ve just heard horror stories of like terps depleting due to temps and light intensity.

At first yes. I noticed that the quality I was getting with hoods was a little better but I since dialed it in. The recipe I used for hoods was not working exactly the same on gavitas since the rooms were running a little hotter and humidity was running higher from the bigger canopy Also in the last few weeks.

That’s when I figured out my issue.in fact it was temps a little too high at the tops level, and I need stronger light intensity over that footprint to be at par with my hoods on 4x4. Gavitas just run hotter. I was running the gavitas over a 5x5 on 1000 watt setting cause I was limited to power. Then I went 1150 Plants on 1 Hugo cube 4 ft tall burned the tops. I got the quality back by increasing the light intensity and lowering the temps and humidity over last few Weeks. The way I was able to bring the lights closer to the tops 2.5 ft instead of 3 was by creating a bigger plant with a bigger root mass. 5 ft tall plants on the big momma 8 inch rock wool cubes or using 2 6 inch Hugo blocks stacked on top of each other per plant. I noticed that a bigger plant with a bigger root mass can handle the gravitas being closer to the tops without messing up the plant. This was key.

Also feeding low ppm last few weeks. Cutting back in nitrogen. Just feeding a little cal mag and overdrive like at .6 ec. Cutting back on co2 down to like 700-800 last couple weeks and making the room colder than 60 degrees at dark cycle In the last couple weeks.

If you know how to work with vapor pressure deficit then use that technique for first 5 weeks to get size and weight. The least 4 weeks for me are about Bringing out the quality. By lowering temps and humidity and slowly bringing co2 down back to normal levels. I’m known here I’m my town for hitting big weight with top notch quality. Make sure you’re dry and curing process is on point too. See image for this room. 5 ft tall plants on 2 Hugos with higher ceilings (9ft) gravitas at 1150. Bigger plants with larger root mass can handle gavitas being closer to tops. This room is in middle week 3 in a garage with 9 gavitas at full power. Oops sorry middle of week 4 just confirmed with my guy running that room

 

[Pimples]

I pay attention to VPD in veg and early flower only. After budset and start to mature...i do it my way for way better quality. Lowering room temp and lowering humidity in increments towards the finish line is key for me as well. Any strain really. Whatever it is with a precision controlled room the max the genetic is capable of gets pulled out. Once you got the right cuttings and room setup..its the little things all added up that bring out the most these plants have to offer.

 

[Judaz]

I pay attention to VPD in veg and early flower only. After budset and start to mature...i do it my way for way better quality. Lowering room temp and lowering humidity in increments towards the finish line is key for me as well. Any strain really. Whatever it is with a precision controlled room the max the genetic is capable of gets pulled out. Once you got the right cuttings and room setup..its the little things all added up that bring out the most these plants have to offer.

I agree. Your comments are on point. I can tell you know what you are doing. Props

 

[Shamus]

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[Pimples]

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Nice setup.

 

[bilby]

brushing the stem base in rooting hormone of seedlings before next transplant into bigger pots to cover more of the stem to promote more root surface area capability once buried in coco? thoughts? random thought i had just now..

 

[Pimples]

brushing the stem base in rooting hormone of seedlings before next transplant into bigger pots to cover more of the stem to promote more root surface area capability once buried in coco? thoughts? random thought i had just now..

You could try it but honestly..an IBA auxin type hormone rooting product is really meant to push cuttings in the right direction. I would imagine a healthy cannabis seedling has the right balance of all the major hormones from the get go. It sorta has to by default.

 

[bilby]

You could try it but honestly..an IBA auxin type hormone rooting product is really meant to push cuttings in the right direction. I would imagine a healthy cannabis seedling has the right balance of all the major hormones from the get go. It sorta has to by default.

I def agree. I was leaning on experimental freebie seeds. Bury them up to their necks. for science...

 

[Shamus]

U could still experiment with that u just don’t need IBA/tooting hormone

 

[Judaz]

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Nice room bro. Next room chuck that wall mount AC and get yourself a mini split that will make your room a true sealed room so it won’t remove air from the room and effect your co2 levels

 

[bilby]

U could still experiment with that u just don’t need IBA/tooting hormone

ok good input guys thanks.

 

[Shamus]

Nice room bro. Next room chuck that wall mount AC and get yourself a mini split that will make your room a true sealed room so it won’t remove air from the room and effect your co2 levels

That co2 was filled once afternoon I bought the tank and just said fuck it.

I never ran co2 but for like a week.. Did just fine

Co2 makes buds beastery. Not a fan of it. That was a 1200 friedrich it had a closed setting that didn’t let new air in.

but yeah the plan was a mini split but i have to roll with the punches, xXxX xXxX

NO selling of anything in this site
Thanks

Eh

First harvest will be nice lol

 

[Pimples]

Just about all wall mounts leak co2 even just a little but noticeably so if your using tanks (refill times) and trying to gas in a consistent manner and keep it in the room for the longest time possible before the ppm eye kicks it back on. At least in my experience. I never noticed any beaster bud from gas. Its all in the cultivar your growing is what I found. I did notice a 20 to 25% or so increase in yield when I ditched the air cooled hoods and stopped venting the room and went sealed with a split and a proper dehuey like a quest 110 or sante fe type unit. Then I bought a bunch of Double ended hps lamps a few years later and WOW. 25 to 28 ounces of dried trimmed and cured buds just on the 600 watt setting per lamp. No way could I get that consistently with a regular 600 watter. No way. Everything had to be perfect to hit 18 or 20 zips. With the double ended hps and I can get away with it..2 pounds all day on the 750 setting. Thats still a sweet room. It was the way alot of growers ran a few years ago. I know I did. But the most I got from those kinds of setups was 1.5 to 1.75 per lamp.

 

[Judaz]

That co2 was filled once afternoon I bought the tank and just said fuck it.

I never ran co2 but for like a week.. Did just fine

Co2 makes buds beastery. Not a fan of it. That was a 1200 friedrich it had a closed setting that didn’t let new air in.

but yeah the plan was a mini split but i have to roll with the punches, in selling some of my seeds right now (pm me if ya want some fire) cuz I’m so damn broke so

Eh

First harvest will be nice lol

You'll have to move to co2 if you want to get to that 3 a light number in the future. Without co2 I would never hit the numbers that I hit. Thats how you bring that extra density that will pack weight. Nugs wont shrinks as much as they do with air exchange.

 

[Judaz]

Just about all wall mounts leak co2 even just a little but noticeably so if your using tanks (refill times) and trying to gas in a consistent manner and keep it in the room for the longest time possible before the ppm eye kicks it back on. At least in my experience. I never noticed any beaster bud from gas. Its all in the cultivar your growing is what I found. I did notice a 20 to 25% or so increase in yield when I ditched the air cooled hoods and stopped venting the room and went sealed with a split and a proper dehuey like a quest 110 or sante fe type unit. Then I bought a bunch of Double ended hps lamps a few years later and WOW. 25 to 28 ounces of dried trimmed and cured buds just on the 600 watt setting per lamp. And if I knew I could get away with it..2 pounds all day on the 750 setting. Thats still a sweet room. It was the way alot of growers ran a few years ago. I know I did. But the most I got from those kinds of setups was 1.5 to 1.75 per lamp.

yup I had the same issue back then when I had wall mount ac's and tried to run co2. The mini split solves that issue.

 

[Pimples]

yup I had the same issue back then when I had wall mount ac's and tried to run co2. The mini split solves that issue.

Sure does. Its the solution to controlling temps and still keeping co2 where you want. And with cooling..you cool the room not the lights. Took me years to figure out why I couldnt hit my numbers with a cool jet of air blowing over the bulbs and glass.