Irie Seeds "Orange Gasm" under Gavita Pro 1700e LED's..........

[Milson]

Here's the final picks for the contest............ it will be a few weeks before the final tally is ready, but I can assure you it's going to be interesting ride til then. GL everyone.

JohnnyRockets 60
SSHZ 66
Frankster 67
BadBud3 69
MadMax 70
Moshmen 72
MIMedGrown 73
Taurid 74
Dr.Green55 75
ChRonic73 76
BurnzYzBudZz 77
Milson 78
Tomatoes 79
Cracken 80
Lilnew 81
Aquaman 82
NorCalChris 88
TheShortAnswer 89

Have you given any more thought to whether you will.....dabble in extracts with this strain?

 

[Frankster]

We haven’t touched on this at all but the Orange Gasm appears to be very stable as I haven’t found 1 male part anywhere and I look daily, considering we’re getting close to the end. Sativa’s can sometimes be troublesome with hermies but it appears Irie Seeds did a nice job with this one........

But, we still have no idea about the quality of the buzz, and will be a long lasting high?

Yea, I've always noticed a lot more hermaphroditism for sure in sativas, some more than others. Especially seems to happen in "northern" derived varieties, it seems.

The plants look very good btw, I'm going to try and use your plants to time how I harvest these next few plants, try and sync them up to your level of development, and see if I can narrow things down better. Maybe learn something from your timing. I'm maybe a week behind you at most, maybe 10 days.

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[sshz]

Although Rasta Jeff said it's where the strain shines, I doubt I'm going to deal with that. I'm not an extracts guy, I've never really bothered with it. Since I'm not really smoking, I probably don't care as much and am less inclined to make the effort. I will make hash in some form, I just haven't thought about how yet.

 

[Frankster]

Although Rasta Jeff said it's where the strain shines, I doubt I'm going to deal with that. I'm not an extracts guy, I've never really bothered with it. Since I'm not really smoking, I probably don't care as much and am less inclined to make the effort. I will make hash in some form, I just haven't thought about how yet.

What do you think the best metric to look at, or do you look at them all in relation to one another. meaning amber, cloudiness, head drop, or perhaps any other things you do to look at peak ripeness? I get that your doing it commercially, and thus my interest in your methodology, because I know your considering weight vs quality.

 

[sshz]

A good question but a tough one to answer...........

Under HPS, I normally just go to 70 days and don't give it much thought past that. Most things, if not all, are basically done enough to chop and dry at that point. I don't grow long sativa's, which could require more time for sure.

I was always told plants under LED's would finish a few days faster than with HPS, it's one of the things that attracted my interest. But since it's my first grow with the lights, I want to give them every chance to show what they can do, especially in the yield department. There is no single tell tale sign I use to determine the best time to harvest. I would think the best and most reliable indicator would be to dry a piece of bud and smoke it. I do look at trichome colors and subtle changes, but that's not always the best determining factor as strains all change (or don't) at different times and in different ways. I have found finishing plants start to reduce their water intake, and I do pay close attention to that. But all told- I use my experience and the visual appearance of the plants to decide when it's best.

Others use the pistils as a sign. As they dry up, the pods below expand and the buds harden. I also take this into consideration.

 

[Frankster]

A good question but a tough one to answer...........

Under HPS, I normally just go to 70 days and don't give it much thought past that. Most things, if not all, are basically done enough to chop and dry at that point. I don't grow long sativa's, which could require more time for sure.

I was always told plants under LED's would finish a few days faster than with HPS, it's one of the things that attracted my interest. But since it's my first grow with the lights, I want to give them every chance to show what they can do, especially in the yield department. There is no single tell tale sign I use to determine the best time to harvest. I would think the best and most reliable indicator would be to dry a piece of bud and smoke it. I do look at trichome colors and subtle changes, but that's not always the best determining factor as strains all change (or don't) at different times and in different ways. I have found finishing plants start to reduce their water intake, and I do pay close attention to that. But all told- I use my experience and the visual appearance of the plants to decide when it's best.

Yea, good answer, that's what I've been doing also. I think sometimes, if conditions are really good, you still see new growth all the way up to the end, so it makes it a bit harder to tell for me, because it's more of a judgement call. It really is a much different finish, and it seems that the lack of heat and varying intensity (how close the light are zeroed down on the plants) tend to stretch things out, or finish things faster, depending on where exactly it's at. ie. the footprint used.

I think with those kind of professional lights you've got, you get more uniform coverage along the edges, so it isn't affecting you like it does people with some of the more tightly configured units.

 

[Frankster]

I suspect, It boils down to the rate of Transpiration especially for the auto-flowers, (time dependent) if it's a bit lower intensity, it drags things out, but when you dial them down really well, close or high intensity, depending on the LED and that's when they finish fastest, when you can optimize that transpiration and get them to "super ripen"

as you say, there going to take less water, that's probably an important one, because that would be the easiest way to measure when transpiration is diminishing. I've been watching water more closely now, and how "each" one does, specifically, the center ones tend to drink most.

But with this "pure" water regime, I'm not worrying about amendments or nutes, because it's for the most part all there. I might do an "occasional" feed here at the end, I suspect, but wait and see, so far there kinda over fertilized IMO, at least one or two of them anyhow. Here's them with the lights off, natural color, about 2 weeks into the flower. (veg room). Please comment about any issues you notice, it's certainly a mixed lot, all the plants look different, although the ones that were stressed seem to have recovered some, from the mag I think. Getting a fair amount of yellowing at the bottoms of some, and not in others. I think the soil mix wasn't quite as "uniform" as I thought.

I just planted a few GDP, GG#4 and a few others, in the peat pots, some here are around 1 month old, the big ones are almost 2 months now. The finish room is pretty full also, so clear them out soon enough. They look a little rough, although this is a new technique for me, I guess I kinda over did the amendments on some of them, but I wanted them strong. I hit the one with purple stems with some extra mag, (also a little bone meal, and some kelp) I'll probably hit it again.

 

[sshz]

Wow, just how tall are those plants in the last picture? Things look good, appears you have a slight Mg deficiency to me- I'd be giving them epsom salts every watering for a week or two and see if things get better. If not, we'll take it to the next step.

And what is your medium and what pH do you water at?

 

[Frankster]

Wow, just how tall are those plants in the last picture? Things look good, appears you have a slight Mg deficiency to me- I'd be giving them epsom salts every watering for a week or two and see if things get better. If not, we'll take it to the next step.

And what is your medium and what pH do you water at?

Tad over 6 foot maybe 6 1/2 although the two back ones (those are my bubba/afgan kushes) have been super-cropped because they were bigger. (they were over 6 foot at the start of veg) LOL I've got the shorties sitting up on plastic storage containers, and anything/everything I can find to elevate them. Just to try and compensate, it's a hodge podge for sure.

Alright, damn I skipped tonight, but I'll do it for the rest of the week. Just the ones that look effected? with the dark stems/light leaves or purple stems??? Or should I do them all...

I think I"m just going to back cross these with the last generation male, so I can solidify these autogenes. as they seem like there struggling to flower in 24 hour sunlight, I could induce them more, but I want to make sure I keep the autostrain properties strong. These progeny are significantly bigger than the female parent, I believe. I think these autos might be capable of producing a pound or more of weed, under the right conditions.

They look like there flowering ok?

 

[sshz]

First plant chopped.........14 branches, no fluff on it at all. At 6 grams average per branch, that's exactly 3 oz. But, I think they'll average higher than that so I'm guessing 3 1/2 oz. I may do 1 more tomorrow but I suspect the rest will go to at least 70 days.

 

[Madmax]

It has begun..your first led grows gonna go close to the magic 79 ozzies..you gonna have a taste

 

[sshz]

14 branches per plant X 24 plants = 336 branches total, way more than expected. The yield keeps on looking better and better.

I think I may try some scissor hash today, just for a citrus blast. I’ll report back.........

 

[Dr.Green55]

14 branches per plant X 24 plants = 336 branches total, way more than expected. The yield keeps on looking better and better.

I think I may try some scissor hash today, just for a citrus blast. I’ll report back.........

looks really good, is there any of that strong orange small ?

 

[sshz]

No orange, I have yet to see any indication of it anywhere....... and believe me, I'm looking. Personally, I think it's just another marketing ploy. The citrus/grapefruit comes and goes, depending on the plant. If you go further back in the parents genetics, you'll find skunk on both sides. The Platinum Tangie side is made up of Cali-O X Skunk, and the Golden Goat side has Island Sweet Skunk there. I bring it up because appearance wise, it looks very skunky to me. A Citrus Skunk appears about right or maybe a Sour Skunk.

Back to the orange.......... I think he labeled it "orange" because orange/tangerine/citrus tones can be found throughout it's genetics. The Cali-O brings orange, the I.S.S. brings grapefruit, and so on. I'm assuming if I do find something orange, it will be noticed on just a few plants, well into the drying/curing process.

I did a small spec of hash earlier in a glass pipe............ the hash off a scissors after trimming 1 plant. As expected, it came on quickly in the head and has been long lasting. Things are just a bit "brighter" thru the eyes, and I feel relaxed and but still edgey, if you get my drift. My mood is up and good......it's doing what it's supposed to do. I think things will only improve with a slow drying period with a cure. Problem is, it's never around long enough to cure properly.

 

[sshz]

"Alright, damn I skipped tonight, but I'll do it for the rest of the week. Just the ones that look effected? with the dark stems/light leaves or purple stems??? Or should I do them all..."

If they are all in the same medium, and some are showing deficiency signs and others aren't- it's most likely some are more resistant to the issues and others less. Actually, what might make more sense is to spray the deficient plants with a mix of water and 1 tablespoon of the E. S. This may make better sense since you won't toxify the soil with more salt (since fertilizer is a salt too). Maybe lightly spray ever 4-5 days a couple of times. Or just fertilize with it- both will work.

Yes, things look fine. There's some minor stuff going on, but nothing we can't figure out. Obviously, a bit leafy too and you need to consider removing some of those larger sun leaves........

 

[Frankster]

First plant chopped.........14 branches, no fluff on it at all. At 6 grams average per branch, that's exactly 3 oz. But, I think they'll average higher than that so I'm guessing 3 1/2 oz. I may do 1 more tomorrow but I suspect the rest will go to at least 70 days.

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They really look fantastic, I can see the glow of the resin even from that distance. They look really heavy to me.

 

[Frankster]

"Alright, damn I skipped tonight, but I'll do it for the rest of the week. Just the ones that look effected? with the dark stems/light leaves or purple stems??? Or should I do them all..."

If they are all in the same medium, and some are showing deficiency signs and others aren't- it's most likely some are more resistant to the issues and others less. Actually, what might make more sense is to spray the deficient plants with a mix of water and 1 tablespoon of the E. S. This may make better sense since you won't toxify the soil with more salt (since fertilizer is a salt too). Maybe lightly spray ever 4-5 days a couple of times. Or just fertilize with it- both will work.

Yes, things look fine. There's some minor stuff going on, but nothing we can't figure out. Obviously, a bit leafy too and you need to consider removing some of those larger sun leaves........

Yea, I was thinking about defoliating this bunch because I've never really done it aggressively in the past, just a few bottom leaves here and there, I'm generally against it, but in this case, with the plants size, and the limitations of my lighting vs plant count/size, I think I need more penetration, it will probably help overall in this case. I've already seen stuff starving below for light. What do you think 1/3 of the leaves? Thanks for the idea with the foliar spray, I think I'll do that because the soil should be pretty set, and I want to minimize screwing with it.

 

[BurnzYzBudZz]

No orange, I have yet to see any indication of it anywhere....... and believe me, I'm looking. Personally, I think it's just another marketing ploy. The citrus/grapefruit comes and goes, depending on the plant. If you go further back in the parents genetics, you'll find skunk on both sides. The Platinum Tangie side is made up of Cali-O X Skunk, and the Golden Goat side has Island Sweet Skunk there. I bring it up because appearance wise, it looks very skunky to me. A Citrus Skunk appears about right or maybe a Sour Skunk.

Back to the orange.......... I think he labeled it "orange" because orange/tangerine/citrus tones can be found throughout it's genetics. The Cali-O brings orange, the I.S.S. brings grapefruit, and so on. I'm assuming if I do find something orange, it will be noticed on just a few plants, well into the drying/curing process.

I did a small spec of hash earlier in a glass pipe............ the hash off a scissors after trimming 1 plant. As expected, it came on quickly in the head and has been long lasting. Things are just a bit "brighter" thru the eyes, and I feel relaxed and but still edgey, if you get my drift. My mood is up and good......it's doing what it's supposed to do. I think things will only improve with a slow drying period with a cure. Problem is, it's never around long enough to cure properly.

So true. Haha. My last crop hit week 5 of curing and it’s gone. I Smoked maybe an 1/8th.

 

[Milson]

As I'm approaching harvest I guess I will ask: have you noticed any difference from putting the plant in darkness for X hours before cutting? Guessing you did not do that here.

 

[sshz]

This plant goes tomorrow...............