Nutrients what are you using? Need advice here.

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Dirtbag said:
Sounds like running Pbp grow all the way through from start to finish would suit you well. Its basically a one bottle wonder, and organic based. I can attest it works great on its own.
Floranova series works good too as a one part.
Im using and liking Earth juice but its not nearly as simple to use as something like pure blend pro..
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Really?
 
gaboi42

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B0ssD0ss said:
I think I'm going to go the way of organic. Looks so much simpler and less feedings, just top amend and water. I'm over mixing ferts several times a week to feed plants.

I'm looking at worm castings, 4-4-4 slow, release, and 3-9-4 in a small amount for veg (with autos) mixed into initial soil making and then one more top amend at week 4, and then worm castings, smaller dose of 4-4-4 and a larger 3-9-4 bloom booster week 6-7, then every 2 weeks after til week 12 worm castings and 3-9-4 only. Week 12-17 just water to flush all top amended ferts out before harvest.
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There used to be a TLO recipe online that seemed super legit, it was only for flowering and only required water an teas throughout (the recipe was required to be "cooked" or let set for a few weeks prior to use. Soma has a start to finish organic recipe I used many years ago..you'll loose a lil on yield till you get dialed in, might always loose a lil on yield, buy quality will be up there...in my humble opinion
 
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B0ssD0ss said:
I'm growing autos and like 3 weeks into flowering. What's the molasses actually do and is there a specific type needed.
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Organic unsulfured blackstap molasses. Its feeds microbes in soil and provides simple sugars/carbohydrates from my understanding . Had problems putting it in my hydro res, I would only use it in dirt. I've been using recharge recently ( a lil pricey, but it contains molasses kelp(vitamins and hormones) and beneficials, I think a product like that would be better to run in a hydro set...that or a product like sweet by gh (anything with sugar/carbs). Hope that helps a lil
 
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Using jacks nutrients with cal/mag and kelp. Molasses really does nothing for the plants. It feeds the microorganisms in your soil which help with over all plant health. Which is why i didnt help the guy using it in his hydro rez
 
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gaboi42 said:
There used to be a TLO recipe online that seemed super legit, it was only for flowering and only required water an teas throughout (the recipe was required to be "cooked" or let set for a few weeks prior to use. Soma has a start to finish organic recipe I used many years ago..you'll loose a lil on yield till you get dialed in, might always loose a lil on yield, buy quality will be up there...in my humble opinion
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Type in super soil recipes and you'll find true water only soil recipes. I used Subcools supersoil recipe but after buying all ingredients and mixing it and letting it "cook" for a few weeks decided it just wasnt for me. Went back to Jacks
 
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I run the two base parts of Front Row AG. Simple salts, add n grams part A per gallon, mix well, add n gram part B per gallon, mix well, apply.

I also run silica (protekt), and hygrozyme. silica, front row ag, hygrozyme, ph. pretty simple, imo. i've ran other bottled nutrients, 3 part, 5 part, 11 part. it gets hectic and costs way more than what it should.

All that being said, I don't recommend Front Row AG just because of its price point. It's expensive for what it is. Megacrop is comparable, Jack's a step up from Megacrop. It's like the Cadillac of salt nutrients, but the results speak for themselves. No calmag additives, ph's the solution well enough on its own, stable, easy to dose. Oh, and you can make your own concentrate if you don't want to weigh out salts every fertigation. So there's that.
 
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visajoe1 said:
interesting. what ec do you feed? no N issues? i been on maxigro for a year and dig it, just hesitant with anything that has higher levels of P
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Last time I checked ppm run off it was around 8000 if that helps you. I've been told I feed heavy at 2tsp a gal but only have had minimal burnage. I just switched to mills 4 part liquid line. Alot faster mixing with liquids.
 
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IhatePM said:
Last time I checked ppm run off it was around 8000 if that helps you. I've been told I feed heavy at 2tsp a gal but only have had minimal burnage. I just switched to mills 4 part liquid line. Alot faster mixing with liquids.
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Do you have an extra zero on that run off number? 8k sounds impossible to me. That'd be like sludge as your runoff. I don't see a meter being able to read that.
 
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tobh said:
Do you have an extra zero on that run off number? 8k sounds impossible to me. That'd be like sludge as your runoff. I don't see a meter being able to read that.
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I agree but 800 seems too low.
 
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Dirtbag said:
Not really, 800 is like 1.6 ec. Its at the upper limit of what i like to see for runoff personally in my system.
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Ah, that must be why my plant took a month to flush. Just before flush my runoff was over 1000
 
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