LED light vs HPS light yield / watt

[Observationist]

Yes I just had to try it at least once to see if I got the knack.. hopefully it's not a failed experiment

I’m not using co2 and getting “dense fat nugs”

sure they aren’t rock hard dense but they most certainly are not airy at all, they are compact nugs.


It’s genetics mainly, and then light and vitamins.

oops the baby pic lmao.

accident.

 

[Observationist]

It's brewing.. im getting the itch again lol. Plan is to fire up again in Sept, but might pop some beans before then. I've still got the wedding crasher too so this one will likely be a hodge podge of genetics. Proper shit show.

We waiting.

 

[Frankster]

A pic says a thousand words, Like the one you showed me the other day , I doubt your issue c02, but if your lucky it might band aid your real issues to an extent , but what do I know, I got the wack job friends and don't know how to grow as you kindly informed me, this is a funny post, good luck

I would inquire about your regimen and salt verses organic and the specifics... I've had salt mixture especially that produce plenty of THC crystization but lacking potent smell and complexity... Just not the entire potential expressed...


I'm always trying to do it in different ways these days but simple amino acids really stabilize a solution really well especially against pH and ppm buffering

Most of my methods these days are a hybrid and a transition to organics as the grow cycle natures in the ripening stages... Having it pre loaded into the plants aa much as possible...

Plant health and finish is such a delicate transition to the end IMO. I never push it to far anymore... I'll take the lesser better weight every day

Fuck a bunch of extra phosphate or even nitrate. Think I might use soluble kelp to do most of the ripening phase this grow...

 

[Dirtbag]

I was wondering what was the diff in g/m2?

Almost totally equal. Was surprising. And I think I prefer the stuff grown under LED.

 

[Frankster]

Salt Excell on the front end of the growth and lacking in the end... Unless maybe your Aquaman.

 

[Aqua Man]

Almost totally equal. Was surprising. And I think I prefer the stuff grown under LED.

LED can be a bitch to adjust to at first but once you get it dialed in i have a hard time understanding why someone would switch back.

I mean lighting is definitely situational and im not blind enough to say LED fits all but its fits more often than not i feel.

 

[Aqua Man]

Salt Excell on the front end of the growth and lacking in the end... Unless maybe your Aquaman.

Salts is all about managing irrigation thats all. But i do drink unicorn piss, eat unicorn farts and shit rainbows lol. Not that it helps anything

Don’t believe me?

 

[Observationist]

LED can be a bitch to adjust to at first but once you get it dialed in i have a hard time understanding why someone would switch back.

I mean lighting is definitely situational and im not blind enough to say LED fits all but its fits more often than not i feel.

think the biggest thing is up front cost and reliability of Drivers & Diodes

1000w HPS bulbs are 20-100$?


but then you get electricity savings from efficient diodes and more PAR for less wattage, THEN less Cooling could be needed, and then more savings in that.

 

[Aqua Man]

think the biggest thing is up front cost and reliability of Drivers & Diodes

1000w HPS bulbs are 20-100$?


but then you get electricity savings from efficient diodes and more PAR for less wattage, THEN less Cooling could be needed, and then more savings in that.

Yup but if you grown under HPS all your life switching can be a bitch even if you think your prepared

 

[Frankster]

The other real similar thread I use

Salts is all about managing irrigation thats all. But i do drink unicorn piss, eat unicorn farts and shit rainbows lol. Not that it helps anything

Don’t believe me?

Well I was going to say that also... Good follow up... Full circle . Mastering the substrate or techniques in question....

I thought I had 25 lbs of choir when I come out here and it's a clutch for my truck

So I used moss and it's popping through... So yeah while I should have boiled it. Next time and I have applied many microbes. But substance is the starting point

 

[Frankster]

Yup but if you grown under HPS all your life switching can be a bitch even if you think your prepared

Yes absolutely can be a little rough transition

 

[Observationist]

Yup but if you grown under HPS all your life switching can be a bitch even if you think your prepared

Understood, I’ve been seeing that lol

I started with LEDs for the above reasons.

 

[Frankster]

It's a little different ways of approaching everything

 

[Dirtbag]

Yup but if you grown under HPS all your life switching can be a bitch even if you think your prepared

Took me about half a grow to figure out where I was fuckin up. You pointed it out first, too much too soon is easy to do with LED. Also the plant seemed to eat a bit more under LED as well as transpire a bit less, so you need to play with vpd to dial it in. But honestly I've seen enough to convert. I will still say a DEHPS has a place if you can benefit from the heat. Barring that, LED is a clear winning choice.

 

[Aqua Man]

Took me about half a grow to figure out where I was fuckin up. You pointed it out first, too much too soon is easy to do with LED. Also the plant seemed to eat a bit more under LED as well as transpire a bit less, so you need to play with vpd to dial it in. But honestly I've seen enough to convert. I will still say a DEHPS has a place if you can benefit from the heat. Barring that, LED is a clear winning choice.

Yeah but you are far from the average bear my friend… most take at least a grow or 2 and some even give up and say fuck LED like its the next big religion lol… im glad i started under LED. I did a 1000w HPS at a buddies and yeah that learning curve goes both ways lol

 

[Dirtbag]

Yeah but you are far from the average bear my friend… most take at least a grow or 2 and some even give up and say fuck LED like its the next big religion lol… im glad i started under LED. I did a 1000w HPS at a buddies and yeah that learning curve goes both ways lol

LED makes you really look at all the other variables more closely, i found anyway. Its like driving a stick shift sports car when you're used to a Ford Taurus compared to HID. It can go wrong a lot easier, but can also outperform in the hands of an experienced driver.
I like metaphors lol.

 

[growsince79]

Took me about half a grow to figure out where I was fuckin up. You pointed it out first, too much too soon is easy to do with LED. Also the plant seemed to eat a bit more under LED as well as transpire a bit less, so you need to play with vpd to dial it in. But honestly I've seen enough to convert. I will still say a DEHPS has a place if you can benefit from the heat. Barring that, LED is a clear winning choice.

I can't do hps in summer and led is too cold for winter. My best buds are mix as needed.

 

[Dirtbag]

I can't do hps in summer and led is too cold for winter. My best buds are mix as needed.

Good chance mine are too. The buds labeled "LED" in my stash are actually half 50/50 LED/HPS grown, and half pure LED. More research needs to be done. I do think the plants that got both did the best.

 

[Aqua Man]

Good chance mine are too. The buds labeled "LED" in my stash are actually half 50/50 LED/HPS grown, and half pure LED. More research needs to be done. I do think the plants that got both did the best.

The spectral info is starting to take off… thats where all that magic with quality is going to come from imo.

 

[growsince79]

Good chance mine are too. The buds labeled "LED" in my stash are actually half 50/50 LED/HPS grown, and half pure LED. More research needs to be done. I do think the plants that got both did the best.

Plants seem to love the mix. I'm straight led now but the buds are about the same as mix.