Aqua’s Hydro systems meet SPIDERFARMER SE 7000

[Moe.Red]

Because when they fruit they stop producing nearly the sane amount of co2… mycelium are voracious much less so when fruiting. In order for mycelium to fruit the right conditions need to be met.

When i was doing agar work to isolate mycelium that fruit easily and produce more mass and clusters i ran across many that would be voracious as hell but would fruit for the life of them.

Did you mean would NOT fruit for the life of them? If so, we have something to talk about here dude. My setup here can produce 200# of bags every 2 days in full production. you could put this in your store. Just need to do some mushroom "pheno hunts" and dial in the proper substrate.

 

[Aqua Man]

Go on...continue

Mycelium will colonize until they start to fruit or the food source is used up… sooooo all you need to do is find out what they most like to eat and add it to the existing. Ot when the bag runs out you add some of the contents to new media and poof an new bag.

The lavel will hold a clue but i bet you can easily just use bird seed that has been soaked for 24hr then sterilized in a pressure cooker. Or a soirce of manure. One of those will work for sure.

Mycelium are like people they eat organics unlike plants so you cannot feed then available nutrients like we do plants. They need the source to be fully organic

 

[Madmax]

He said teach a Cat not a MAX.

Im asking for my cat.

 

[Aqua Man]

Did you mean would NOT fruit for the life of them? If so, we have something to talk about here dude. My setup here can produce 200# of bags every 2 days in full production. you could put this in your store. Just need to do some mushroom "pheno hunts" and dial in the proper substrate.

Yes would NOT sorry typo

 

[Frostie069]

Mycelium will colonize until they start to fruit or the food source is used up… sooooo all you need to do is find out what they most like to eat and add it to the existing. Ot when the bag runs out you add some of the contents to new media and poof an new bag.

The lavel will hold a clue but i bet you can easily just use bird seed that has been soaked for 24hr then sterilized in a pressure cooker. Or a soirce of manure. One of those will work for sure.

Mycelium are like people they eat organics unlike plants so you cannot feed then available nutrients like we do plants. They need the source to be fully organic

feeding them coffee grounds I remember reading something about too

 

[Aqua Man]

Im asking for my cat.View attachment 1268829

Well in that case see above

 

[Moe.Red]

Mycelium will colonize until they start to fruit or the food source is used up… sooooo all you need to do is find out what they most like to eat and add it to the existing. Ot when the bag runs out you add some of the contents to new media and poof an new bag.

The lavel will hold a clue but i bet you can easily just use bird seed that has been soaked for 24hr then sterilized in a pressure cooker. Or a soirce of manure. One of those will work for sure.

Mycelium are like people they eat organics unlike plants so you cannot feed then available nutrients like we do plants. They need the source to be fully organic

Yeah they are more like humans than plants, and also rely on plants to exist.

Manure is a good source for many, but most of the big ones use wood based substrates. Usually they are not interchangeable, for example you will never see lions mane growing on a cow paddy, but you will find lots of small ones including cubensis there on turds. I wonder if Exhale bags are based on wood?

 

[Aqua Man]

feeding them coffee grounds I remember reading something about too

If they like coffe grinds they will like manure much more… add a tbs of something like turkey trot to saya litre of vermiculite mixed 50/50 with coco and boom

 

[Aqua Man]

Yeah they are more like humans than plants, and also rely on plants to exist.

Manure is a good source for many, but most of the big ones use wood based substrates. Usually they are not interchangeable, for example you will never see lions mane growing on a cow paddy, but you will find lots of small ones including cubensis there on turds. I wonder if Exhale bags are based on wood?

Oooh yes i forgot that one… grains, manures or wood.. one of those 3 will work best

 

[Frostie069]

Well in that case see abo

If they like coffe grinds they will like manure much more… add a tbs of something like turkey trot to saya litre of vermiculite mixed 50/50 with coco and boom

let me know if any real estate comes up in your street, moving in, plenty to talk about

 

[Aqua Man]

Maybe as this goes ill make some exhale bags for sale also… only cheap and sell DIY kits like a master culture where the user provides thier own media and only need a 1 time purchase… lol that would piss some ppl off

 

[Moe.Red]

Maybe as this goes ill make some exhale bags for sale also… only cheap and sell DIY kits like a master culture where the user provides thier own media and only need a 1 time purchase… lol that would piss some ppl off

Sounds about right. Sell a little sourdough starter kit and then just premade sterile bags of substrate as refills for those that need it. Beauty. Bob's your uncle.

Now I just gotta see if this actually works lol.

 

[Aqua Man]

It wouldnt be hard to reverse engineer at all. Transfer to agar and identify and isolate the strain if not done already and id be shocked if they are not already using a cloned strain. Then do some food source testing and just sell master and spawn media cheap af lol

Hell if its already isolated you can just transfer to agar do some slants for preservation and start right away. Prob take 2 weeks lol

 

[Moe.Red]

It wouldnt be hard to reverse engineer at all. Transfer to agar and identify and isolate the strain if not done already and id be shocked if they are not already using a cloned strain. Then do some food source testing and just sell master and spawn media cheap af lol

Hell if its already isolated you can just transfer to agar do some slants for preservation and start right away. Prob take 2 weeks lol

Yeah I just would not want to use an exhale bag as the donor for integrity reasons. If they have a patent, I'd rather come at this organically. Dunno, this has to take a back seat to the grow right now, but fun to talk about. Back to the coal mine for me brother!

 

[Aqua Man]

Yeah I just would not want to use an exhale bag as the donor for integrity reasons. If they have a patent, I'd rather come at this organically. Dunno, this has to take a back seat to the grow right now, but fun to talk about. Back to the coal mine for me brother!

Yeah i dont have a back seat…. First things first

 

[Zombierider]

He's 25 and has some big time hoytie toytie job developing for the communications industry.

I started a hackerspace back in 2011 for my kids and friends and it became a little business my wife ran. We taught kids how to write code, understand electronics, make their own circuit boards and populate them, we made robots and sent a weather ballon to space and recorded it and then used the onboard electronics to locate it and retrieve. Cool shit like that. I had a waiting list of kids as long as my arm. Once my kids got thru it tho, I lost drive to keep going with it.

So my oldest has been writing code since he was 8 probably. My youngest went another route, he is in college right now and is going the Chef route. We plan to start a food truck biz together (well, my money his effort and skill so really it's his) when he graduates. Didn't take to the electronics. Whatever makes them happy, you know?

EDIT to everyone, if you want to get kids started in software (really good jobs out there) show them Scratch from MIT. Sorta a drag and drop programming deal that gets them on track to understand software design

Scratch - Imagine, Program, Share

Scratch is a free programming language and online community where you can create your own interactive stories, games, and animations.

scratch.mit.edu

Your sons sound like they definitely have their ‘shnit’ together, fkn awesome kudos bro

 

[Zombierider]

Second that -- Scratch is a great intro language, and one can easily transition into the likes of Python or Ruby after gaining the fundamentals.

I love how you describe his job lol i too have a "big time hoytie toytie job" though I'm in the construction/fintech space. If your boy is entertaining new opportunities, let me know. My company is hiring like crazy. He already has a leg up in the hiring process simply because he shares my background. I started learning at 9 years old, took years to get to where I'm at now but best fucking decision I ever made was pursuing this passion.

for sure! i'll be sharing it wherever I can and with whoever I can once it's going. The biggest problem I'm running into right now is getting the video editing software I'm wanting to use to cooperate with my GPU on Linux.

I might end up biting the bullet and just installing dual boot Windows and quit torturing myself with dependency hell. Have this insane computer at my feet that I can't use for the purpose it's built simply because I refuse to slow it down by installing a Microsoft product on it haha

What kind of PC rig did you set up? I just built a new PC w/ 3070ti ddr5 and i7 12700k. Mainly for photo editing/milsim/flight sim games. I fkn hate windows 11, they include Norton “antivirus” which is how you know your screwed from the beginning lol.

 

[Zombierider]

Day 2 of clones in straight coco.

They are looking great… haven’t seen much on clones started in straight coco but so far it looks like its just like any other media…. Manage humidity and light intensity while keeping the media tight to the stems and moist.

Lux is about 2k

Water line in the tray is just touching the bottom of the tray liner so they can wick up some since coco deies so fast.

I’ll probably go this route in the future especially if im doing coco, hydro, fog or aero.

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Noice! If I ever take clones I will try this out. It will be nice to use coco from beginning to end, no rrooters or jiffy”a, simple is best imo!

 

[Zombierider]

Ok so gonna let part of the cat outa the bag here and explain a little about what this system will achieve that will make such an impact on our grows.

First lets explain the concept a bit and dont ask me how because thats not going to be disclosed yet. This will only be about the hydro system but it can be done in any system.

O2 levels in the rootzone are directly related to rate of growth we see in our plants… its no secret and has been proven for decades now.

We are limited to the saturation level of o2 that water will hold and at 70f that’s around 8-9ppm of dissolved o2 under henrys law.

Now so far in a less than idea setup with subpar components @Moe.Red has tested the concept and reached 180% (correct me if im wrong moe) of the saturation of o2 in the rootzone. This is getting much cloaer to aeroponic levels of o2 reaching DO levels almost twice that. Again dont ask me how because im not ready to tell.

Now in my grow system this round with again subpar components i am and anticipating higher than 200% possibly 300% of the max DO saturation. Putting it on par or past aeroponic levels. And this we should see growth rates inline with that but with the safety of a hydroponic system in the event of a failure such as power outage.

By my calculations i should be able to get over 400% the max DO level before release if all goes as planned.

There is a whole nother side to this equipment that adds another dimension of growth increase should you use this in a sealed room… but not going to go into that for the time being.

A huge thank you to @Moe.Red for working with me on this and his ability to manufacture equipment to make data and tgis system possible.

So what you all are watching is more along the lines of research and development in real time thanks to him.

Im very confident in this system now its time to measure the results to take a concept, apply it and either prove or disprove it.

Thanks for being a part of this and watching ppls.

Holy snickerdoodle so your saying your going to increase the DO levels typically in saturated coco by 400%? This has got to be some Canadian wizardry!! Lol. This sounds super super interesting and revolutionary. I am gonna run a sealed room this winter when I finish an area in my basement I'm setting up as a grow area. So I will be following along with digital pen/paper in hand

 

[Zombierider]

Note taken. I have had nothing but success from peat pellets and rapid rooters once i learned to flip en upside down and poke my own holes because the hole in them is to big for the tiny ass clones i always cut lol.

But if this works out I’ll probably never look at another plug of any type… so cheap and easy so far

Cheap+easy wins wars my friend so your on the right track