Dark Phoenix (Trainwreck x Jack Herer) Flower Journal

[PerfecTrader]

4 days since last watered. Pot still seems very heavy. Should I be at all concerned with the top half of the pot getting too dry while I wait for the over-watered, water-logged bottom to dry? For instance should I be considering giving 1/4g dripped from blumats today or still wait? Sorry Puff, no mas agua for you just yet

 

[Shaded_One]

Nope. You can also use visual cues as a sign. Is she drooping yet? Feel the leaves. Are they soft and supple, or rough and abrasive like paper?

When in doubt wait it out. You got circulation fans as well as exhaust fans going 24/7?

 

[PerfecTrader]

Nope. You can also use visual cues as a sign. Is she drooping yet? Feel the leaves. Are they soft and supple, or rough and abrasive like paper?

ok thanks as for visual cues ehh hard to say. They were drooping before and pretty much look the same. Kind of seems like she is recovering from the drowning. The leaves are a bit supple but also rigid. Leaves don't come off easily and I have been WAY different this grow with leaving leaves on. It has much to do with the strain I'm sure but I really haven't had to defoliate at all. I lollipopped a bit like once in week 3ish and have taken only a handful of leaves off to show here since then. Have tried to channel my inner @CannaGranny taught me about leaving leaves along.
I could use some help with whether I should pluck leaves that very obviously won't recover. If the plant is no longer in leaf production mode and all resources should be directed at flower growth, am I losing the plants finite energy allowing it to try to repair unhealthy leaves or does it really not matter? I don't see really much damage other than to fan leaves

When in doubt wait it out. You got circulation fans as well as exhaust fans going 24/7?

Ok roger that. I was just muckin with her a bit and I can imagine another day or 2 and seeing a change in pot weight. As for circulation I have a AC oscillating fan on lvl 7 of 15 that points slightly down at tops and a direct flow AC fan that is caddy-corner pointing up her skirt. No pests at all, not even 1 fung(ie) gnat. Humidifier is a backup and sucks though. Will try to fix my old one today and if can't will be in the market.

Best way for me to show plant is video. Felt Puff deserved her lazy-susan back so here she is at 360. Pistils seem to be changing to pinkish/orangish in some areas but wow not like any previous grow. Thursday will be NINE weeks of flower

 

[CannaGranny]

ok thanks as for visual cues ehh hard to say. They were drooping before and pretty much look the same. Kind of seems like she is recovering from the drowning. The leaves are a bit supple but also rigid. Leaves don't come off easily and I have been WAY different this grow with leaving leaves on. It has much to do with the strain I'm sure but I really haven't had to defoliate at all. I lollipopped a bit like once in week 3ish and have taken only a handful of leaves off to show here since then. Have tried to channel my inner @CannaGranny taught me about leaving leaves along.
I could use some help with whether I should pluck leaves that very obviously won't recover. If the plant is no longer in leaf production mode and all resources should be directed at flower growth, am I losing the plants finite energy allowing it to try to repair unhealthy leaves or does it really not matter? I don't see really much damage other than to fan leaves

Ok roger that. I was just muckin with her a bit and I can imagine another day or 2 and seeing a change in pot weight. As for circulation I have a AC oscillating fan on lvl 7 of 15 that points slightly down at tops and a direct flow AC fan that is caddy-corner pointing up her skirt. No pests at all, not even 1 fung(ie) gnat. Humidifier is a backup and sucks though. Will try to fix my old one today and if can't will be in the market.

Best way for me to show plant is video. Felt Puff deserved her lazy-susan back so here she is at 360. Pistils seem to be changing to pinkish/orangish in some areas but wow not like any previous grow. Thursday will be NINE weeks of flower

Mornin!
An easy way to tell if your leaf is spent? She will pop right off with a gentle tug. Otherwise, while she may not look as she did in her prime..she’s still effective.
Sunday lesson on weed and women..

 

[PerfecTrader]

Mornin!
An easy way to tell if your leaf is spent? She will pop right off with a gentle tug. Otherwise, while she may not look as she did in her prime..she’s still effective.
Sunday lesson on weed and women..

Osda Sunlei Sensai and LOVE the advice. I saw that clearly with Mimosa clone last grow. As she faded the leaves would literally fall off on their own and any that were on the fence came off without even a tug. My current leaves play tug-o-war like they don't want to come off so I leave them. You'd be proud of me if knew how much I've left her leaves alone this grow. Feeling like the Farm once again has my girl back on the right path. Will prepare water in the next day or so. Gonna calibrate PH meter so am confident can give her 50/50 tap/RO @ 6.5 and await further instructions based on dry-back.
I'm sure you have grown cultivars that surprised you at how long they take. I'm an not surprised how long this is taking but it does confuse me as to how to know when I am supposed to change the tune with temps and RH. At 9 weeks in flower, in my head I'm thinking shouldn't I be dropping temps and RH but when I look at them I think shit, should I maybe be shooting for consistent 80 degrees+ and 50+ rh with lights on? I guess the question is do I just forget the who what when and where about the strain and let Puff tell me what to do and when?
This is a small flower from a very low branch that is by far the one with pistils changed most. I really slowed this Puffs growth to a halt didn't I, twice lol probably makes it hard to help me as most people don't stunt there plant multiple times then ask for help regarding time-frames lmao

 

[CannaGranny]

Osda Sunlei Sensai and LOVE the advice. I saw that clearly with Mimosa clone last grow. As she faded the leaves would literally fall off on their own and any that were on the fence came off without even a tug. My current leaves play tug-o-war like they don't want to come off so I leave them. You'd be proud of me if knew how much I've left her leaves alone this grow. Feeling like the Farm once again has my girl back on the right path. Will prepare water in the next day or so. Gonna calibrate PH meter so am confident can give her 50/50 tap/RO @ 6.5 and await further instructions based on dry-back.
I'm sure you have grown cultivars that surprised you at how long they take. I'm an not surprised how long this is taking but it does confuse me as to how to know when I am supposed to change the tune with temps and RH. At 9 weeks in flower, in my head I'm thinking shouldn't I be dropping temps and RH but when I look at them I think shit, should I maybe be shooting for consistent 80 degrees+ and 50+ rh with lights on? I guess the question is do I just forget the who what when and where about the strain and let Puff tell me what to do and when?
This is a small flower from a very low branch that is by far the one with pistils changed most. I really slowed this Puffs growth to a halt didn't I, twice lol probably makes it hard to help me as most people don't stunt there plant multiple times then ask for help regarding time-frames lmao

Feels kind of strange to be greeted in my native tongue. I love it! I usually only hear that at pow wows.
In answer to your question, yes. I have had them go way beyond what the breeders called for. It’s not that uncommon. That’s why they are all quick to say it’s a suggested time vs right on. Go by your trichs and pistils. Nothing basically that you do will mess with flowering times except light control. If you throw them back to veg they stop blooming or if ya smack em hard with N they will temp stop blooming and build leaves. No worries. Patience just patience.

 

[CannaGranny]

Reading the end of your convo. Unless you are way out of bounds on your temps Like 90 and above or 58 and below, then stop stressing on it. I cut the hell out of my humidity mid flower and do so for good reasons.
Are there “perfect conditions” for cannabis? Yes there is yet it grows all over the world In acrid dry desserts and humidity laden coastal regions in Thailand at 2713 feet of elevation. So while so many perfect conditions are touted and thrown around, about half or better is pure bullshit and just something else to stress about.
Become one with the plant Grasshopper and quit reading Spocks way of raising your children.

 

[PerfecTrader]

Help please
Uhh did I over-Ooosahh
wth is this?
9 weeks into flower and new pistil growth on all buds that doesn't stop. This strain literally says it foxtails but the color of my trichs at pretty dark close to all cloudy don't match up with this new pistil growth. Leavin for vegas Tuesday and won't be back till Sunday. Tryin not to sweat it and it is what it is. Any help on wth is goin on is appreciated

 

[PerfecTrader]

Thinking of setting lights to 13 off 11 on this eve. Also raise lights a few inches

Current distance to highest flower is 29. Moving to 32

The picture with new green canoe-like venus fly trap thing does happen to be on flower that was closest to light

 

[PerfecTrader]

Fudddge. Just realized that half way through this flower I switched tents and timers she has been getting 30 min more light than dark. So been on more than off. Wonder if that has had to do with any if this

 

[Lockebox]

Thats not a nanner is it?

Help please
Uhh did I over-Ooosahh
wth is this?
9 weeks into flower and new pistil growth on all buds that doesn't stop. This strain literally says it foxtails but the color of my trichs at pretty dark close to all cloudy don't match up with this new pistil growth. Leavin for vegas Tuesday and won't be back till Sunday. Tryin not to sweat it and it is what it is. Any help on wth is goin on is appreciated

 

[PerfecTrader]

Thats not a nanner is it?

I sure hope not but with how things have been going I wouldn't be surprised

 

[Lockebox]

I sure hope not but with how things have been going I wouldn't be surprised

I hope not too dude but if it was my plant I'd probably pluck it just to be safe, it looks nannery. Oh well if it is though, I mean not the worst thing in the world

 

[PerfecTrader]

I hope not too dude but if it was my plant I'd probably pluck it just to be safe, it looks nannery. Oh well if it is though, I mean not the worst thing in the world

Yeah thanks brotha. Lights off but I'm thinkin I may need to pull them tomorrow. If I leave them for 5 days I'm comin home to a complete loss I'd imagine. @CannaGranny What say you Sensei? Genetics couldn't hang with my constant stress tests? Pretty much all cloudy trichs but white pistils everywhere and now suspect nanners

 

[CannaGranny]

Yeah thanks brotha. Lights off but I'm thinkin I may need to pull them tomorrow. If I leave them for 5 days I'm comin home to a complete loss I'd imagine. @CannaGranny What say you Sensei? Genetics couldn't hang with my constant stress tests? Pretty much all cloudy trichs but white pistils everywhere and now suspect nanners

Show me the nanners. According to the last pic I saw of your trichs, I’d say you are fine to go ahead.

 

[PerfecTrader]

Show me the nanners. According to the last pic I saw of your trichs, I’d say you are fine to go ahead.

thanks CG. "Go ahead" as in cloudy enough to take her down? Lights off or I'd get better pics. Or does it not matter if I'm pulling them down in the morn? You say I'm cloudy enough and I can go take 1st ever night shots of her

 

[PerfecTrader]

These are from 3 days ago. I took the lowest and smallest branch off so could look close with scope

 

[PerfecTrader]

I just took whatever this thing is off. Under scope I don't even know. This has to be nanner right? What else could/would it be

 

[PerfecTrader]

I squished seconds before running water on it in sink and yeah seemed like tiny specs of pollen that little dick. Oh well Ooosah and is what it is. Maybe I can turn it into a positive and just cut her down tuesday morning and let her dry the 5 days I'm gone and hope for the best

 

[SSgrower]

I had acultivar 3 grows ago where pistols kept going white and I cut her too. SSgrower