New Grower Need Help With Sad Clones :(

[Siz]

I would also suggest this! Game changer. No more guessing what level my ppfd is!

Especially if coming from HPS. Will help you dial your enviroment better since LED’s need higher temps

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[fbsv420]

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I would also suggest this! Game changer. No more guessing what level my ppfd is!

Especially if coming from HPS. Will help you dial your enviroment better since LED’s need higher temps

:)

Thanks i would get one of those and will look at the lights deffo after the switch i am, and get my auto feed going

 

[Siz]

Thanks i would get one of those and will look at the lights deffo after the switch i am, and get my auto feed going

I got lucky and found a guy selling a used one otherwise they are pretty expensive.

You can get away with a lux meter and get close enough if you have the right conversion rate. I couldnt get one from gavita or find it online so I got the ppfd reader and now I know for sure where I am at.

Plant are looking AMAZING! Zero Shock! They are booming with growth! I used Great White and sprinkled all the roots

 

[fbsv420]

I got lucky and found a guy selling a used one otherwise they are pretty expensive.

You can get away with a lux meter and get close enough if you have the right conversion rate. I couldnt get one from gavita or find it online so I got the ppfd reader and now I know for sure where I am at.

Plant are looking AMAZING! Zero Shock! They are booming with growth! I used Great White and sprinkled all the roots


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Yeah thy look to be loving it in there no, they are a bit expensive those lights when i need 2 of them i will keep looking

 

[Siz]

Yeah thy look to be loving it in there no, they are a bit expensive those lights when i need 2 of them i will keep looking

Yeah thy look to be loving it in there no, they are a bit expensive those lights when i need 2 of them i will keep looking

Check this video out. He is very knowledgeable about leds and he does legit testing on everything he reviews. very unbiased reviews he is not sponsored by any of the companies I believe he does make his own light also which is suppose to be pretty good.

 

[Siz]

Is this pest? Each plant has only 1 leaf. Otherwise they look pretty good. I hit them with azamax and eagle-20ew when I brought them out and theyve been on canncontrol indoors. I did a root drench with it when i buffered the coco as well.

 

[fbsv420]

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Is this pest? Each plant has only 1 leaf. Otherwise they look pretty good. I hit them with azamax and eagle-20ew when I brought them out and theyve been on canncontrol indoors. I did a root drench with it when i buffered the coco as well.

I dont think its pest i think ya up at there max ec at this point, what ec are you feeding with and what is your run off ec

 

[fbsv420]

Check this video out. He is very knowledgeable about leds and he does legit testing on everything he reviews. very unbiased reviews he is not sponsored by any of the companies I believe he does make his own light also which is suppose to be pretty good.

I have seen him on my insta i was watching his vids about soil v coco v hydro il have a watch for lights, still got a couple month before i dive in and get one

 

[Zatoichi]

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Is this pest? Each plant has only 1 leaf. Otherwise they look pretty good. I hit them with azamax and eagle-20ew when I brought them out and theyve been on canncontrol indoors. I did a root drench with it when i buffered the coco as well.

I would suggest learning more. Eagle 20 is Myclobutanil which is banned for use on cannabis. It is fine for eating and used on produce till harvest, but when burned turns to hydrogen cyanide. It's half life is 245 days so it does not dissipate well. Check wikipedia. It would not pass CA testing if ever exposed to it. Doubt it would kill you but bad idea to ingest cyanide. If you suspect mites, get USB microscope and check bottom of bad leaves. Could be nutrient burn making tips brown. I posted a chart a few pages back regarding nutrient lockout from PH out of range. Coco is considered hydro so 5.8 to 6.0. Also check runoff PH and PPM and feed accordingly. If PH and PPM high adjust to normalize. Airpots are the best way to go. Prevents root circling and allows coco to dry out fast allowing more feeds. Good luck.

 

[fbsv420]

I would suggest learning more. Eagle 20 is Myclobutanil which is banned for use on cannabis. It is fine for eating and used on produce till harvest, but when burned turns to hydrogen cyanide. It's half life is 245 days so it does not dissipate well. Check wikipedia. It would not pass CA testing if ever exposed to it. Doubt it would kill you but bad idea to ingest cyanide. If you suspect mites, get USB microscope and check bottom of bad leaves. Could be nutrient burn making tips brown. I posted a chart a few pages back regarding nutrient lockout from PH out of range. Coco is considered hydro so 5.8 to 6.0. Also check runoff PH and PPM and feed accordingly. If PH and PPM high adjust to normalize. Airpots are the best way to go. Prevents root circling and allows coco to dry out fast allowing more feeds. Good luck.

Yeah i more think its nute burn, i would be on about 1.4ec now, siz what is your run off ec?

 

[Siz]

I dont think its pest i think ya up at there max ec at this point, what ec are you feeding with and what is your run off ec

I havent checked run off but I gave them 0.6 at first with just cal mag then 2.0 full nuts

I hope nut burn it mught be. I did kinda go high, on the outdoor im using the extra nuts I was given, so there was a change in additives.

I would suggest learning more. Eagle 20 is Myclobutanil which is banned for use on cannabis. It is fine for eating and used on produce till harvest, but when burned turns to hydrogen cyanide. It's half life is 245 days so it does not dissipate well. Check wikipedia. It would not pass CA testing if ever exposed to it. Doubt it would kill you but bad idea to ingest cyanide. If you suspect mites, get USB microscope and check bottom of bad leaves. Could be nutrient burn making tips brown. I posted a chart a few pages back regarding nutrient lockout from PH out of range. Coco is considered hydro so 5.8 to 6.0. Also check runoff PH and PPM and feed accordingly. If PH and PPM high adjust to normalize. Airpots are the best way to go. Prevents root circling and allows coco to dry out fast allowing more feeds. Good luck.

I did not know. I was given the bottle i will get rid of it.

What about Garden Insect Spray? I was given a bottle of that as well and was told it was banned but its organic?

 

[fbsv420]

2.0 ec is to high thats what it will be amd nute burn, what is the run off ec so we know what the coco is sitting at

 

[Siz]

Also the outdoor is becoming a mission with feeding nuts. Im thinking of transplanting again before flower into 10 gal or larger of a 50/50 coco / ocean forest mix. My water out the tap comes out at 6.7 ph dechlorinated so I want to be able to water easily most days then feed with nuts less.

Thoughts?

 

[Siz]

2.0 ec is to high thats what it will be amd nute burn, what is the run off ec so we know what the coco is sitting at

Not sure since theyre on the ground I didnt think to put anything on the bottom of the pot to collect run off. Ill get some pot pans tomorrow and check

 

[fbsv420]

Is the ocean forrest organic id be unsure with that and wouldnt really want to give miss leading info, can you not make a big mix of feed to leave near the plants outdoor

 

[Zatoichi]

Yeah i more think its nute burn, i would be on about 1.4ec now, siz what is your run off ec?

I had been running GG4 for years. Was lucky to be told exact PPM which is 600 to 650 PPM which is 1.2 to 1.3 EC. If runoff was 900 and 6.2 fed 300 and 5.6 till input and out put close to being the same. Using GH complete line, so little risk of bad ratios, except some strains are cal/mag pigs. Have heard of some OG's liking upto 1800 PPM. GG4 was a clone, but had several results with micro managing input and output and following VPD charts. Outdoors is a bitch with no control over bugs/mold or animals.

 

[fbsv420]

Not sure since theyre on the ground I didnt think to put anything on the bottom of the pot to collect run off. Ill get some pot pans tomorrow and check

Thats why i raised my tray and had just a hole at first so thr tray drained into a dish and i could check my run off because thats the main thing to keeping the run off in the ideal range.. now im confident in the way i feed i never check run off and my trays are plumbed to a condensate pump what pumps the waste away

 

[fbsv420]

I had been running GG4 for years. Was lucky to be told exact PPM which is 600 to 650 PPM which is 1.2 to 1.3 EC. If runoff was 900 and 6.2 fed 300 and 5.6 till input and out put close to being the same. Using GH complete line, so little risk of bad ratios, except some strains are cal/mag pigs. Have heard of some OG's liking upto 1800 PPM. GG4 was a clone, but had several results with micro managing input and output and following VPD charts. Outdoors is a bitch with no control over bugs/mold or animals.

Have u ever went higher then 1.3ec i only ever went up to 1.4 my first few grows with coco, then when i went onto shogun nutrients amd was advised to use there calculator online and has had me upto 1.8

 

[Siz]

Have u ever went higher then 1.3ec i only ever went up to 1.4 my first few grows with coco, then when i went onto shogun nutrients amd was advised to use there calculator online and has had me upto 1.8

Are you using co2?

 

[Zatoichi]

Thats why i raised my tray and had just a hole at first so thr tray drained into a dish and i could check my run off because thats the main thing to keeping the run off in the ideal range.. now im confident in the way i feed i never check run off and my trays are plumbed to a condensate pump what pumps the waste away

That is the way to find ideal feed, but should check once a week to be safe. One thing I learned the hard way, is to calibrate PH at 7 and 4. Had batteries dying and always calibrated to 7 and weak batteries effected reading.