Humboldt County afraid of being uprooted from pot perch

[southstreets]

that only pertains to people WITHOUT a medical license... To answer skyhi's question on med patients that are under 21 with a docs rec.. It would stay the same beacause theres the grandfather law , which means that they'd still keep their med lic and still be able to medicate..

 

[SkyHi]

anyone have a link to the exact bill? the house bill that was voted on wasnt that bad, but everyone here hated that too. im sure its somewhat similar. but alot of people dont even read the bill, they hear richard lee and big biz and get scared to death.

if you are a good grower, you will still thrive. there is always going to be a connoisseur market. the only people who are going to get hurt are the ones growing outdoor-whatever buds.


the answers below are from the house bill, but im sure if i read through the actual bill, i could answer those questions as well.


1. Were is it written that the MMJ laws will be in effect in lieu of this bill.

doesnt make sense. maybe you meant WHAT and not THAT

it makes perfect sense...where does it say that all medical laws wil be unchanged

2. Where does it state how you will be able to apply for commercial licenture.

$5000 for license, $2500 for renewal each year...seems very fair to me

ok but what are the requirments

3. what restrictions are placed on comercial growers limits and standards. (chemical pestacides ?Genetic modifications?)

not sure
4. as kushpheen stated : what constitutes smoking with a minor present? I mean im sure i can get tilted on some 151 in front of as many children as possible and be scott free. WTF ?

you shouldnt be able to smoke anything in front of children, this is the same for cigs. unless youre taking that 151 & spitting it at the children, it has no effect on them. 2nd hand smoke kills....thats a fact



5. can you grow in your lil cramed ass 5x5 if minors live in the same house?

not sure about this one either, but commerical growers have to provide security of some type.

i was reffering to personal growers in there home

6. what if you live next to a school?

as long as its inside your residence, you are OK

7.will 18 and over patients be able to access medicine?

i think it was 21....could be wrong though
No right now an 18 yr old can get a rec and go to a dispensary




all i know is this, i havent read the bill, so im not sure how im voting just yet.


but prohibition made the bootleggers rich. sure they made a fortune when it was illegal, but the ones who did it correctly made even more money.


i dont even think this will pass, its going to take 3-4 more bills before we actually legalize it. i think its a good thing to have it legalized, its a step in the right direction at least

100% agreed it SHOULD be LEGAL....but legal not MORE restricted

that only pertains to people WITHOUT a medical license... To answer skyhi's question on med patients that are under 21 with a docs rec.. It would stay the same beacause theres the grandfather law , which means that they'd still keep their med lic and still be able to medicate..

Where does it state that ?

 

[southstreets]

it doesnt have to state it in the bill... look up the grandfather law bro.. been around for quite some time.. plus this bill doesnt pertain to med patients..

 

[SkyHi]

it doesnt have to state it in the bill... look up the grandfather law bro.. been around for quite some time.. plus this bill doesnt pertain to med patients..

OK so show me the verbage in the bill that says this ....

 

[slimjoint]

We cant let the goverment take over our culture.
I mean does anyone really care if its legal or not?
You do what you do regardless , so why give them a little control of it?
If youve got your shit on lock then this is usless to you. great its legal now, what are you going to be doing different? Youre going to be working twice as hard to get meds out to people while recieving less for your work.
Growing good weed is an art. not all growers can get the great medicinal value from any weed, the great taste and smell.
I will be voting no most definatley

What they should do is decriminalize, make the current system more legitimate, and have a limited tax and regulation on the collectives. They should allow the community & culture decide.

 

[SkyHi]

We cant let the goverment take over our culture.
I mean does anyone really care if its legal or not?
You do what you do regardless , so why give them a little control of it?
If youve got your shit on lock then this is usless to you. great its legal now, what are you going to be doing different? Youre going to be working twice as hard to get meds out to people while recieving less for your work.
Growing good weed is an art. not all growers can get the great medicinal value from any weed, the great taste and smell.
I will be voting no most definatley

What they should do is decriminalize, make the current system more legitimate, and have a limited tax and regulation on the collectives. They should allow the community & culture decide.

Thank you slim joing i agree completely

 

[southstreets]

bro its a LAW it doesnt have to be worded into the bill..

 

[SkyHi]

bro its a LAW it doesnt have to be worded into the bill..

its a LAW that this bill wont trump prop 215 ?

 

[southstreets]

it wouldnt pertain to ANYONE who had a medical rec before the bill got voted in.. UNLESS it gets amended by the people. which would be done by adding regs in 215..

 

[Lost]

SkyHi, your not getting it. It would have to expressly say in the bill that this invalidates SB420 and prop 215 and because it does not say anything to that affect, it does not change the medical side. That is just Law 101.

 

[southstreets]

thanks for explaining it better lost.. lol..

 

[Lost]

its a LAW that this bill wont trump prop 215 ?

As long as there is not verbage in the bill to ammend sb420, 215, then yes. It is against the constitution to change something voted in by the people. Since the bill does not pertain to medical patients (A protected class), it would be illegal or rather unconstitutional for law enforcement to not recognize your protected status.

 

[Dubwobble]

And crystal meth production is going up either way son I hate to tell you,

That is the same lame excuse that conservative no-nothings say. "If you legalize marijuana then hard drug use will rise"

So I guess everyone will start using meth and building meth labs if pot becomes legal...

Go ahead, cry about your lbs dropping in price $500 - $1000 each year. Start running a commercial meth lab, rake in the money. Your right, you can make tons off it and ruin all your friends lives.

Yay!

Also if you CA dudes could be kind enough and tell me just exactly what you contributed to the herb game I'd appreciate it

Really, your gonna go there...? :D

A SHORT list:
Cali O
e32 Trainwreck
Original Haze (haze brothers - introduced by Sacred Seeds in California 1980)
Skunk #1 (introduced by Sacred Seeds in California 1980)
Salmon Creek Big Bud
Humbolt Snow (aka Snowbud)
Yumbolt
Morning Star
Mendo Purps
Purple Kush
Grandaddy Purple
Purple Haze
Early Girl (aka Early California)
Mendocino Madness
Garberville (aka Killing Garberville)
XXX
Almost Heaven

And now of course all the Cali Connection strains !

 

[4EVERGREEN]

rich lee is said 2 have thousands of mothers ready 2 go if it passes, rich lee and is people will take over cali's weed trade in 6 months, rich lee is ready 2 go now!! WE MUST SPREAD THE WORD TO EVERY ONE TO REGISTER TO VOTE AND VOTE NO!!! tell your friends and family 2 tell there friends and co workers 2 vote no!! its up 2 us 2 get the word out!! we have 2 explain 2 stoners that this bill sucks!!! we need 2 get together and make flyers for schools and retirement homes, we need more billboards put up!! we can not let this bill pass!!!!! if your a member on other grow sites go there and post spread the word!! register 2 vote dont be lazy

 

[edux10]

why dont we vote yes on this and then when a better bill comes along, vote on that one to replace this one? I see this one as a foot in the door, dont you guys? I wish it could be %100 the way we want it, but isnt something better than nothing? this one doesnt have to stay in effect forever

 

[radical farmer]

Read the bill multiple times. This is complete death sentence if voted in. I'll be voting no with just about everyone else in cali. I'm pretty sure this isn't going to pass, but I'd say within 5 years something similar will. Its just too soon and the tides haven't completely turned yet. This bill is too in favor of government and very oppressive. It isn't legalizing anything, it is putting further restrictions on something. A very pseudo-legal bill. I mean, these are the same people that didn't want anything to do with MMJ, now they see the dollar signs and that they can't touch any of it and they are getting very pissed. They don't like the idea of seeing people not paying taxes for something that is so valuable. These are the same people that are throwing us in jail every day for any minor infraction, and now we want them to "regulate & control" the very plant that they have been demonizing for decades....? I realize that legalization NEEDS to happen, but this isn't legalization. This is a money making bill at the expense of the people that fought long and hard to get MMJ. This is a bill to push everyone out that made cali the weed capital of the us, and put uncle scam into the mix where he wants to be.
Anyone that votes yes is very misinformed about capitalism in general.

 

[SkyHi]

SkyHi, your not getting it. It would have to expressly say in the bill that this invalidates SB420 and prop 215 and because it does not say anything to that affect, it does not change the medical side. That is just Law 101.

thanks for the clarification lost

thanks for explaining it better lost.. lol..

I belive you about the law, but do you honestly think the Mmj communit won't be affected?

rich lee is said 2 have thousands of mothers ready 2 go if it passes, rich lee and is people will take over cali's weed trade in 6 months, rich lee is ready 2 go now!! WE MUST SPREAD THE WORD TO
EVERY ONE TO REGISTER TO VOTE AND VOTE NO!!! tell
your friends and family 2 tell there friends and co
workers 2 vote no!! its up 2 us 2 get the word out!! we
have 2 explain 2 stoners that this bill sucks!!! we need 2 get together and make flyers for schools and retirement homes, we need more billboards put up!! we can not let this bill pass!!!!! if your a member on other grow sites go there and post spread the word!! register 2 vote dont be lazy

I hope that shit doesn't happen bro

Read the bill multiple times. This is complete death sentence if voted in. I'll be voting no with just about everyone else in cali. I'm pretty sure this isn't going to pass, but I'd say within 5 years something similar will. Its just too soon and the tides haven't completely turned yet. This bill is too in favor of government and very oppressive. It isn't legalizing anything, it is putting further restrictions on something. A very pseudo-legal bill. I mean, these are the same people that didn't want anything to do with MMJ, now they see the dollar signs and that they can't touch any of it and they are getting very pissed. They don't like the idea of seeing people not paying taxes for something that is so valuable. These are the same people that are throwing us in jail every day for any minor infraction, and now we want them to "regulate & control" the very plant that they have been demonizing for decades....? I realize that legalization NEEDS to happen, but this isn't legalization. This is a money making bill at the expense of the people that fought long and hard to get MMJ. This is a bill to push everyone out that made cali the weed capital of the us, and put uncle scam into the mix where he wants to be.
Anyone that votes yes is very misinformed about capitalism in general.

exactly, for pure principle this should pass. The people who opressed now want to control. I understand it needs to be regulated for quaility and health but this is extreme, it's like San Diego for example, they hate Mmj What do you think the new law will do for them if it puts the power into city or county hands.

I know some poeple will argue that there is alot of people in jail because it's illegality but will this free them ?I doubt it theyll prob just transfer them to fed run corrections.

I know it's not fair for the non mmj smokers right now but this isn't the solution. Non mmj smokers only risk a 100 dollar fine for an ounce anyway. Hold off for a better plan it's easier than amending a flawed one

 

[southstreets]

yo whats up skyhi!! i think everyone will be affected in some way or another.. good or bad.. somepeople will make out like bandits and some peeps will get the stink stick.. but thats the way it goes with ALL laws and bills that get passed or dropped.. personally it would prob bring me more business, maybe not i dont know..and this bill might drop some prices even in the med community.. some people cant afford 60 an eighth for some GOOD meds every other day... it might actually encourage some great growers to come back even if its a 5x5 space.. Canada's got reg control from what im told and i know Amsterdam does.. sometimes you have to take some bad to get some good!!! EVERYONE would like to have no regs and be able to smoke, carry, and grow as much as they would want, but the fact of the matter is that will NEVER happen... bein from a legislative and negotiation backround ( did it for over 10 yrs of my life) thats my opinion.. its a catch 22 bro..

 

[nor cali farmer]

boy southstreets you started the erb trade in fallout and now you write legislative background was that the co op by laws that you wrote for us up in mendo when you were showing us how to grow? just so im clear how it went down when you had your o.p. shorts on and by the way o.p. company went public in 1971. peace

 

[kovert]

please wait on legal bud !!! there is a better plan coming soon be paitent or well all get screwed