Brettdawg
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I will start doing to run off when they arent as droopy from.overwatering/ no oxygen at root level. Or will run off help the plant and droopyness
Aqua Man
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Watering will bring fresh oxygen to the coco. It's not like soil. I would be watering with low dose nutrients at least once a day. Maybe even 2-3 times day. But I am not a coco grower
Ph 007
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Did you try no calmag and just little feed?
Brettdawg
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Yes mate no calmag 1/4 strength nutrients and bit.of superthrive. This is them the next day..
Some growth but slow is that how it will be. Didntt water to run off tho. When you reckon feed next. And to run off? I no some ppl say keep coco moist but gnats love it when its moist
Brettdawg
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Lower leaves going yellow now but I'm going to trim them off aniway. Leaves feel bit dry to touch
Aqua Man
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Coco will stay moist. Again it's not like soil. You need to water to get a decent amount of run off or your going to get salt build up and have all sorts of problems.
I can't state this enough. I'm not sure if it was this thread I tagged enforcer in but water 2-3 times a day and make sure your getting run off.
I won't post it again so I don't sounds like a broken record and keep bugging ya. Good luck bro may the grow gods be with ya.
Aqua Man
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Caause no o2 no nutrient uptake.
Brettdawg
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Its kool bro. once a day be alrite? Hard to do.it more than once a day. As have to travel to the place.how much wud ya feed in 11 litre pots. I no it's hard to say an amount. Cant believe I'm even asking these questions never had issue like this really in coco I jus feed every other day normally. And happy with end product and yield. I usually use 600 watt 5 plants in coco average 15-20 ounces. Strain dependant. But willing to listen to advice from anyone .
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300-400ppm 2 times a day. Again just my opinion but it's up to you.
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Okay mate.cheers
Ph 007
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I had same problem when i started coco my plants got sick so come online for help u tried everyone advise and waterd daily but made things worst, I stop cal mag and over watering and plants got 100% better..
I'm stll slightly over watering now her a are 2 plants of mine picture taken today, I was feeding every till run off they growing ok but then slowed down, i waterd last night till run loff they where dropping a bit, so I didn't water today and I'm not watering till TMZ they where 12-15 hours ago these pics they look better already after drying for 12-15 hours my fabric pot still feels heavy and sids of the botton of the pot is wet..
Read this link from canna coco it says leave it dry. also this bagged coco we get I'm sure its different from the pure coco brick.
Anyway the link says leave it dry ,iv copies and pastesunder the link
CANNA COCO easy to use | CANNA UK
Because of the high costs of nutrients and the complexity of sophisticated hydroponic systems, more and more growers turn to CANNA COCO for their personal needs.More intensive rooting, 6 to 10% higher yields and lower fertiliser use.
CANNA’s COCO is made up of thousands of capillary micro-sponges that retain almost 1000 % of their own weight in water. Therefore coco retains an enormous buffer of water and nutrients. It is recommended that the grower keeps the medium a bit dry rather than soaking wet. Wet circumstances form an ideal basis for fungal diseases like Pythium. A drier substrate passes more air through to the roots stimulating them to absorb water and nutrients more actively. This results in a faster growth and higher yields.
Another important instrument is timing. Once the coco has become too wet, reduce or pause watering until the coco has dried out and then start normal watering again.
And just to also clear my cal mag up lol I have used cal mag with big cuttings/small plants and the where OK but bit slow as they got bigger and older the grew with no problems but not as good as I liked
Then
I done exactly the same even tried half and full strength calmag with smaller cuttings and the looking like shit some died , the calmag was causing problems
So the big plants didn't like the calmag but managed to take it as their bigger and grew ok, but the small cuttings just could take it..
Now no calmag big cuttings grow better and healthier.
And Then small cutting that use to die
Grow healthy
I'm just trying to point out that the reason you didn't have problem in past was the bigger plants your had didn't need cal mag you give it to them anyway the still grew OK but I bet without the will grow better..
I'm stoned again I get lost what I'm trying to day andnits all over the place then lol
Them small plants you have I would free at 0.6e.c water wance rill run off and wait 2-3 days when the start purking up just jeeo sipping then water as you feel.
If u water to runoff you need to wait for it to dry a bit before another feed to run off and keep repeating, or just water everyday other day about a litre
Till things look better, like the link says let it dry..
You giving that feed not using calmag i reckon should flush or start to flush out the cal mag and now hopefully as they dry a tad the will purk up..
For the record in not a coco expert I'm very new to it. But iv experimented a lot in a short amount of time with all sort's
And if you can make sence off all the info above you should OK mate lol
Gonna send make and cupa and read this crap back myself no
I also use a hydro clone machine and inunerstand about root and oxygen as iv masterd it with this machine 100% but then i have treated coco like hydro and I get problems, when I leave it dry like soil not as dry as soil but not to far off they grew great..
Here they are bit been fed 12-15 hours will feed tomorrow so be 24 hours watering
2 on left are coco. And 2 on rihht soil, soil are bigger they are a little older,
Eyes to the left nose to the right
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Ph 007
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Just want to throw this out their just popes in my head
If you don't water coco to run off and you are only feeding low strength feed as the plant is small the surely you want get salt build up or much for first 2-3 weeks? Abs should cause a problem
If you don't water coco to run off and you are only feeding low strength feed as the plant is small the surely you want get salt build up or much for first 2-3 weeks? Abs should cause a problem
Ph 007
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Here is a good link about watering
And how to determine when to water
www.growweedeasy.com
How to Know When to Give Water Again
It’s time to give water to your plant in coco when….
The color of the coco has begun to lighten from dark brown to medium brown
If you touch the coco, it feels cool instead of moist (if the top of the coco actually feels dry, you should definitely give water)
The container feels light if you try to lift it gently. Plants in coco with lots of water will feel heavy, but plants in dry coco are much easier to pick up.
Consider the “napkin method”
Take a napkin and unfold it so there is only a single ply
Press it gently but firmly on top of the coco.
If you can see the napkin getting wet, give the plants a little more time to dry out.
If the napkin comes back mostly dry, plants need to be watered
And how to determine when to water
How Often to Water Coco Coir | Grow Weed Easy
by Nebula Haze Growing cannabis in coco coir is similar to growing in soil, but also a little different. Considering all the opinions about watering out on the internet, it can be difficult to know how to water plants properly. When exactly do you water plants in coco? How much water do you give...
www.growweedeasy.com
How to Know When to Give Water Again
It’s time to give water to your plant in coco when….
The color of the coco has begun to lighten from dark brown to medium brown
If you touch the coco, it feels cool instead of moist (if the top of the coco actually feels dry, you should definitely give water)
The container feels light if you try to lift it gently. Plants in coco with lots of water will feel heavy, but plants in dry coco are much easier to pick up.
Consider the “napkin method”
Take a napkin and unfold it so there is only a single ply
Press it gently but firmly on top of the coco.
If you can see the napkin getting wet, give the plants a little more time to dry out.
If the napkin comes back mostly dry, plants need to be watered
Brettdawg
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Appreciate all the help mateHere is a good link about watering
And how to determine when to water
How Often to Water Coco Coir | Grow Weed Easy
by Nebula Haze Growing cannabis in coco coir is similar to growing in soil, but also a little different. Considering all the opinions about watering out on the internet, it can be difficult to know how to water plants properly. When exactly do you water plants in coco? How much water do you give...
How to Know When to Give Water Again
It’s time to give water to your plant in coco when….
The color of the coco has begun to lighten from dark brown to medium brown
If you touch the coco, it feels cool instead of moist (if the top of the coco actually feels dry, you should definitely give water)
The container feels light if you try to lift it gently. Plants in coco with lots of water will feel heavy, but plants in dry coco are much easier to pick up.
Consider the “napkin method”
Take a napkin and unfold it so there is only a single ply
Press it gently but firmly on top of the coco.
If you can see the napkin getting wet, give the plants a little more time to dry out.
If the napkin comes back mostly dry, plants need to be watered
I normally jus water every other day til they are bigger. Never normally water to run off and had no issues. Like you say if I give a good watering I normally wait a day or two. These will be okay I'm sure. Jus slower growth than usual. Will keep ya updated.
Another reason I dont keep coco wet all time is. Gnats.... low nutrient and bit of superthrive should get them back.on track. Upped the light aswell why they are like this.
Ph 007
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Gnats ? What that bit spring tails is it? I have spring tails in my run off litre bastards
Brettdawg
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Ph 007
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Them.little fly's is it in know if it is that
Brettdawg
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These little fuckers
Ph 007
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Though so lol. Iv had then many times, ivnhad thrips for 1-2 years fuckers keep coming back
Brettdawg
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Gnats is one of main reasons I dont leave coco moist. And try them their sachets mate they are good.
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