thanks highroller techniclly your right on the spot dude .. thank for the heads up. .. ............................................ buzz I have a few more to set out myself this weekend and ill be done ....15 in all .... all fems from seed but 5 the rest are fem seeds ladies. im going out tonight to one spot and check water and spray stinky deer fence stuff to keep the deer, rabits and squirls away..... this stuff smell bbbaaaddddd.... ...... maybe if there big enough ill do some LST tonight too. they were 15 inches saturday , should have watered then but it was still moist... dont want to over water... they should be at least 18 or 20 inches today... they are really growing fast .. i want 15 colas per plant at least that will give good wieght per plant..... good luck bud