Minitiger said:

Nice, @Mr Bee Apollo x Headband? Is that a Bodhi cross?

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It sure is my. Testers I got off someone who didn't pop em(naughty boy limo). He also gave me some ae77cali o x appollo testers. I tried to get em off bodhi during testing .they were my 2nd choice the og Nepali x Goji being my first.i got my 1st and 3rd choice so I didn't get them but managed to snag half a pack from limo who did get em but didn't get the chance to run em.
When I first saw that cross I knew they would probably be a fucking shit hot super fruity strain.i will b popping those come autumn along with a few Goji and probably my last og Nepali x Goji I saved from when I tested them .iv had em for ages and won't be suprised if the dont pop.i'm trying to score some more pure Goji as I only have 4 Goji beans so if anyone has Goji beans they would b willing to trade please pm me.
@Minitiger it's good to see you still posting here .when I started this thread I had no idea it would get so many posts or last this long.keep up the good work boys.

Mr Bee said:

It sure is my. Testers I got off someone who didn't pop em(naughty boy limo). He also gave me some ae77cali o x appollo testers. I tried to get em off bodhi during testing .they were my 2nd choice the og Nepali x Goji being my first.i got my 1st and 3rd choice so I didn't get them but managed to snag half a pack from limo who did get em but didn't get the chance to run em.
When I first saw that cross I knew they would probably be a fucking shit hot super fruity strain.i will b popping those come autumn along with a few Goji and probably my last og Nepali x Goji I saved from when I tested them .iv had em for ages and won't be suprised if the dont pop.i'm trying to score some more pure Goji as I only have 4 Goji beans so if anyone has Goji beans they would b willing to trade please pm me.
@Minitiger it's good to see you still posting here .when I started this thread I had no idea it would get so many posts or last this long.keep up the good work boys.

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I have heard amazing things about Bodhi's Goji. I have never had the pleasure myself, but that cultivar's reputation proceeds it for sure. Thank you for starting this thread. You are a lucky person to have run so much Bodhi gear.

Germinating old seed stock is fucking tough, as I am learning after barely growing a crop every year for the past ~4 years. I have lost a ton of priceless seed stock trying to get my germination rates up. I have tried every trick in the book and my seeds were even stored correctly. I am just now starting to encounter better results. I can keep you updated on different methods and their success rates if you wish. Just let me know. Either way I wish you well friend. Positive vibes...

~nugzz

stanknugzz77 said:

I have heard amazing things about Bodhi's Goji. I have never had the pleasure myself, but that cultivar's reputation proceeds it for sure. Thank you for starting this thread. You are a lucky person to have run so much Bodhi gear.

Germinating old seed stock is fucking tough, as I am learning after barely growing a crop every year for the past ~4 years. I have lost a ton of priceless seed stock trying to get my germination rates up. I have tried every trick in the book and my seeds were even stored correctly. I am just now starting to encounter better results. I can keep you updated on different methods and their success rates if you wish. Just let me know. Either way I wish you well friend. Positive vibes...

~nugzz

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What finally worked for gemming those old beans?

hillbil said:

What finally worked for gemming those old beans?

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Sadly enough, I wouldn't say that anything has worked fully. There are not too many in-depth studies on germinating old seeds, especially cannabis specific. Most of the information is not definitive or complete. I have gone through much trial and a lot of error. Luckily, I have stopped trying to work with priceless gems that were gifted to me (I have wasted many) and started focusing primarily on seed stock that I have bred which I have tons of. I am still not getting great germination results. A root tip will emerge and then the seed fail to grow afterwards. Recently, I have been having better success rates with a hydrogen peroxide (h2o2) soak to penetrate the seed hull and now I am experimenting with different solutions of gibberellic acid (ga3) to promote growth and development afterwards. My experiments are ongoing, but becoming more successful. I just need to get back to being able to grow this sacred plant. I also would love and appreciate to be able to search through some of the gems that I have not grown yet. Positive vibes...

~nugzz

can someone lay down some history on NDNguy and Jojo? From what stank said and bodhi says in interviews they sound like cool people, I’m curious what other cultivars they’ve had a hand in making and/or getting around.

Jojo made either the purple widow used in the purple unicorn itself, I can’t remember which. Not much info is available online about him.

stanknugzz77 said:

Sadly enough, I wouldn't say that anything has worked fully. There are not too many in-depth studies on germinating old seeds, especially cannabis specific. Most of the information is not definitive or complete. I have gone through much trial and a lot of error. Luckily, I have stopped trying to work with priceless gems that were gifted to me (I have wasted many) and started focusing primarily on seed stock that I have bred which I have tons of. I am still not getting great germination results. A root tip will emerge and then the seed fail to grow afterwards. Recently, I have been having better success rates with a hydrogen peroxide (h2o2) soak to penetrate the seed hull and now I am experimenting with different solutions of gibberellic acid (ga3) to promote growth and development afterwards. My experiments are ongoing, but becoming more successful. I just need to get back to being able to grow this sacred plant. I also would love and appreciate to be able to search through some of the gems that I have not grown yet. Positive vibes...

~nugzz

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I would love some help with this as well. Please, start a thread with your experiments in the advanced tech section, please!

With some of these old seeds I have I would except any germination rate just to get one more of the plants to grow. I ordered and used GA3 after doing a H2O2 soak. Unfortunately, my GA3 was alcohol soluble instead of water and after doing a little MORE research on my mix, I figured out I should have taken a chemistry class, so I would have known the soak solution even though it was mixed to a gallon of water (should have been closer to 100 gallons), was probably still a GA3 ppm of like 1,000,000 and probably burned everything up inside the hull.

It would be nice to have a thread to chop this up, or for a newb like me to just witness grown folk talk about it.

lemons said:

can someone lay down some history on NDNguy and Jojo? From what stank said and bodhi says in interviews they sound like cool people, I’m curious what other cultivars they’ve had a hand in making and/or getting around.

Jojo made either the purple widow used in the purple unicorn itself, I can’t remember which. Not much info is available online about him.

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I can't speak much on Jojorizo because I didn't politic with him like I did NDNGuy, but if memory serves me correct, he made the Blackberry Widow which was 98 Aloha White Widow hit with Nebus Blackberry pollen, which is said to have been the male used in Bodhi's Purple Unicorn. Again, Bodhi would definitely know more on that subject than myself.

And I can't speak much to NDNGuy's history, just our interactions really. He gifted me some '88 G-13/HP (to continue to help preserving that line along with others) and some '88 G-13/HP x Butterscoth Hawiian (Free Leonard) that was a collaboration between him and Swampy. He also gifted me and a fuckton of other people a shitload of other cultivars. He acted as a sort of hub for genetics. You would send him whatever you were working on/with and he would pass it around and he would do the same with a lot of people. Truly just a beautiful being that really shared the love and made you be even more proud of being a part of a community surrounding this sacred plant. I was doing an open pollination with the 88 G-13/HP outdoors when I had ~150 plants ripped. I have some '88 G-13/HP beans left, but I am a little nervous to try and germinate them before I get my technique down for germinating old seeds. If anyone has a line on any pure '88 G-13/HP seeds, I would truly appreciate it. It would be an honor to do my best to keep my word to brother NDNGuy and continue to preserve that cultivar and spread the pure version freely. Positive vibes...

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I would love some help with this as well. Please, start a thread with your experiments in the advanced tech section, please!

With some of these old seeds I have I would except any germination rate just to get one more of the plants to grow. I ordered and used GA3 after doing a H2O2 soak. Unfortunately, my GA3 was alcohol soluble instead of water and after doing a little MORE research on my mix, I figured out I should have taken a chemistry class, so I would have known the soak solution even though it was mixed to a gallon of water (should have been closer to 100 gallons), was probably still a GA3 ppm of like 1,000,000 and probably burned everything up inside the hull.

It would be nice to have a thread to chop this up, or for a newb like me to just witness grown folk talk about it.

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I appreciate the kind words friend, but I am just starting to get any tangible results from my experiments. I would still call myself a novice in the grand scheme of things, especially when it comes to this subject. I may start a thread on it whenever I have done more testing and have better germination rates to celebrate about haha. I did get some Yeti OG F2s above ground that I am stoked about. My gibberellic acid is alcohol soluble as well. I have read that the minuscule amount of alcohol necessary to dissolve the ga3 is not detrimental to germinating seeds though. The H2O2 soak prior to utilizing the ga3 solution seems to be necessary as well. You are on the right track my friend! Positive vibes...

~nugzz

stanknugzz77 said:

Sadly enough, I wouldn't say that anything has worked fully. There are not too many in-depth studies on germinating old seeds, especially cannabis specific. Most of the information is not definitive or complete. I have gone through much trial and a lot of error. Luckily, I have stopped trying to work with priceless gems that were gifted to me (I have wasted many) and started focusing primarily on seed stock that I have bred which I have tons of. I am still not getting great germination results. A root tip will emerge and then the seed fail to grow afterwards. Recently, I have been having better success rates with a hydrogen peroxide (h2o2) soak to penetrate the seed hull and now I am experimenting with different solutions of gibberellic acid (ga3) to promote growth and development afterwards. My experiments are ongoing, but becoming more successful. I just need to get back to being able to grow this sacred plant. I also would love and appreciate to be able to search through some of the gems that I have not grown yet. Positive vibes...

~nugzz

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You ever soak them in fulvic acid? Personally, I just put my seeds in dirt and I usually get 100% germination rate, never done the wet paper towel or soaking thing. Of course, I'm working with relatively new seed stock. But I've definitely read that fulvic acid, at a rate of a tablespoon per gallon of water (I think, could be a little less), really helps with seed germination.

Bodhi testers, eleven days into 11/13 after a 62 day veg:

Genius Thai x OMG #1, my favorite of the two (I planted eight seeds of that cross and only got two females!). Nice and branchy, thin leaves, really open plant structure that lets the light in.



Genius Thai x OMG #3:




And here's the lone Golden Triangle x 88G13HP (also planted eight of those seeds and ended up with ONE female!):



I'll probably start a grow log here at the farm, although I really wish I ended up with a few more females of each. Seems silly to create a whole log just for three females. I started five Silver Mountains and three Larry Lotuses at the same time I started these testers and ended up with three SM females and two LL females. Just luck of the draw, I guess... And if I don't start a grow log (or even if I do), I'll definitely be posting pics here, too, a things get more and more interesting.

Minitiger said:

You ever soak them in fulvic acid? Personally, I just put my seeds in dirt and I usually get 100% germination rate, never done the wet paper towel or soaking thing. Of course, I'm working with relatively new seed stock. But I've definitely read that fulvic acid, at a rate of a tablespoon per gallon of water (I think, could be a little less), really helps with seed germination.

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I have never encountered problems with germination either. My freshest seeds in my collection are probably 4-5 years old though. I have come across information about utilizing fulvic acid to increase germination rates. Thank you for the tip anyway friend. I have not tried that method yet, but it will be my next purchase if necessary. I have read most if not all sources of information available online about germinating older seeds (there are very few sources and even fewer actual studies) and I have tried many of them. Fulvic acid is ~$50 dollars for a gallon at my local store and I probably would not use all of it for soaking seeds, so I have been trying to go the cheapest routes first. I feel like no one method alone is sufficient and multiple methods must be combined to achieve desirable results (like the h2o2 soak prior to the ga3 soak that I previously stated). I sure hope that I am able to achieve better germination rates with my old seed stock. There are so many cultivars that I would love to search through and so many that came from loved ones, some who are not physically attached to Mother Earth anymore. The trials continue haha. Wish me luck! Positive vibes...

~nugzz

hey does anybody know what the cross is on the sunshine kush that's supposed to be dropping this weekend?

nevermind - it's purple kush x ssdd

stanknugzz77 said:

I have never encountered problems with germination either. My freshest seeds in my collection are probably 4-5 years old though. I have come across information about utilizing fulvic acid to increase germination rates. Thank you for the tip anyway friend. I have not tried that method yet, but it will be my next purchase if necessary. I have read most if not all sources of information available online about germinating older seeds (there are very few sources and even fewer actual studies) and I have tried many of them. Fulvic acid is ~$50 dollars for a gallon at my local store and I probably would not use all of it for soaking seeds, so I have been trying to go the cheapest routes first. I feel like no one method alone is sufficient and multiple methods must be combined to achieve desirable results (like the h2o2 soak prior to the ga3 soak that I previously stated). I sure hope that I am able to achieve better germination rates with my old seed stock. There are so many cultivars that I would love to search through and so many that came from loved ones, some who are not physically attached to Mother Earth anymore. The trials continue haha. Wish me luck! Positive vibes...

~nugzz

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Yep, my bad. I was replying to @Hidd3nGr0w ’s post, thought it was yours.

Fifty dollars for a gallon of fulvic? That seems high. I get a quart for $15 and it lasts me quite a while. I’ll use three tablespoons once every 12 days during flower and I’ve had that quart bottle for over a year (although I will use humic acid instead of fulvic twice twice a grow). It’s good shit, for a lot of other things besides germinating seeds. I’m loathe to give people growing advice, but I encourage you to check it out. I’m fully organic and use very little inputs, but fulvic is definitely something I try to always utilize.

sunshine kush is sold out already at jbc - limited release

@Mr. Krinkle's avatar came from my grade school Saint Joseph's Missal I had in grade school.

Gotta love the Catholics

Interesting read for the history of the Purple Unicorn. Sounds like Jojo’s BlackBerry Widow has potential to be weak, but what better solution for that than Chemdog D. Also sounds/looks like it might turn things big purple.

lemons said:

Nebu's Blackberry

Just got a cut labeled Nebu's Blackberry. My buddy said," run it, it's good." That usually works for me. Anyone else have this cut? If so, is it good? What's the story on it? Who is Nebu? Any info would be appreciated.

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Interesting read for the history of the Purple Unicorn. Sounds like Jojo’s BlackBerry Widow has potential to be weak, but what better solution for that than chem d. Also sounds/looks like it might turn things big purple.

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I’ll read that thread in a second, but I gotta say that I had a source for unbelievable Blackberry for like a year (straight Blackberry, sans the Widow portion) ten years ago and it was fucking FANTASTIC. The first time I grabbed it, I wasn’t that excited (despite the fact that it looked really good, genetics didn’t get me stoked) but I smoked some when I got home and was blown away. Grabbed it every chance I got. I’ve also smoked White Widow (not sure if that’s the “widow” portion of the BlackBerry Widow or if it’s a Widow hybrid) and it knocked me on my ass. Which is not my favorite kinda high, but it was definitely not weak.

My point is, I’m having a hard time believing that anything BlackBerry crossed with anything Widow is “weak.” That is all haha! Plus, Bodhi’s typically not fucking around....

Minitiger said:

I’ll read that thread in a second, but I gotta say that I had a source for unbelievable Blackberry for like a year (straight Blackberry, sans the Widow portion) ten years ago and it was fucking FANTASTIC. The first time I grabbed it, I wasn’t that excited (despite the fact that it looked really good, genetics didn’t get me stoked) but I smoked some when I got home and was blown away. Grabbed it every chance I got. I’ve also smoked White Widow (not sure if that’s the “widow” portion of the BlackBerry Widow or if it’s a Widow hybrid) and it knocked me on my ass. Which is not my favorite kinda high, but it was definitely not weak.

My point is, I’m having a hard time believing that anything BlackBerry crossed with anything Widow is “weak.” That is all haha! Plus, Bodhi’s typically not fucking around....

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ive always heard that blackberry was all bag appeal but the blackberry kush that came thru my area was dumb strong. The cool guy at the party who can smoke anything took two pulls and left the spot without saying a word lol. The widow portion is aloha white widow, which according to one episode of Adam Dunn or another isa white widow that’s been climatized to Hawaii.

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Gotta love the Catholics

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Yeah, that Children's Crusade was a classic!

But I digress, lol!

Jamaican Hashplant x 88G13HP




They started out all hashy smelling, but now it's a fruity thing with an acrid pungent bright clean thing I used to get from G-13... very nice, but hard to pin down.