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I would probably wanna run a microbe like recharge or great white with it cuz i dont think it has microbes? Hell yeah man, ima order a bag and try it out. Im about done mixing 5 different nutrients (calimagic, micro, gro, bloom, diamond nectar) one would be sick. Care to show some nug porn from a greenleaf nute grow?
Hey I just read some stuff on Diamond nectar and its being dissed pretty hard for changing its ingredients and not updating its advertising. I use Floralicious Plus that has Fulvic & humic acids +++ It used to be in the Diamond Nectar but its been replaced with some other ingredient's. I was looking for something cleaner for a new system but after more reading I find I can still use it in my reservoir.

I like it and I seem to get healthier plants veg - flower using it wtf is withe the black line through my text???
 
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Hey I just read some stuff on Diamond nectar and its being dissed pretty hard for changing its ingredients and not updating its advertising. I use Floralicious Plus that has Fulvic & humic acids +++ It used to be in the Diamond Nectar but its been replaced with some other ingredient's. I was looking for something cleaner for a new system but after more reading I find I can still use it in my reservoir


I like it and I seem to get healthier plants veg - flower using it wtf is withe the black line through my text???
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Hey, just want to say this is all really great, I remember reading about SOG and SCROG and other techniques in High Times years ago, as well as various books.......a quick comment about the English language......yes there are some particular peculiarities around certain spellings and all, but I think what makes English so good (whether it's what's made it dominant, or it's for other reasons I don't know), but I think it's because English is more built around its ease of speaking and dynamic communication, with the written parts of it being secondary, or afterthoughts. It's certainly not the same English of 300 years ago, or even 100 years ago. In many ways it's changed quite a bit since just the 1940s-50s. Look at movies and the way people spoke then, the words they used.......some of it is kind of comical. I'm sure English teachers would cringe at the way I write, which is as similar as I can get to the way I speak......maybe I should thank Jack Kerouac and a lot of the beats and hippies. ;). One of the words I use more than most people is "dude", which used to be a derogatory word for phoney cowboys or something. Nowadays it's mostly a term of endearment, or just a way to address someone you're familiar with. I don't do it but I know people who call women "dude", and it's not derogatory at all. It can also mean "what the heck is wrong with you why would you do that that's crazy!". And all you have to say is......"..Dude!!" ;)

Ok, the growing weed thing then I'll let you all get back to the SCROG thing, and what sounds like Star Trek talk about watering systems and nutrients.......to me, that's all a foreign language. Watering is something you do with the pouring or hosing of the clear liquid into the pots, and nutrients are things that come in containers that you add a little of into the clear stuff after a month or two as the soil and peat and compost and......guano.....start wearing down a bit. ;)

So yes, these methods are great, and many people would be well-served to listen and learn and adopt these methods. Maximizing yield, minimizing growth time.....maximizing space.....and when it's all said and cured.....maximixing $ return. A lot of people need, want to do all of these things.....all the way to production oriiented commercials growers.

So i can only speak for myself, and maybe some others......as I look at these systems some things I wonder are how you can access everything, what you do if part or all of the watering system fails (and you're not there), what you do if you want to go away for a week, although this can be a problem for all growers all the time.......automated systems are like self-driving cars, all good until a crash happens, then, not so much.....

And there are answers to all of these things, I'm not saying there aren't, but these things all together require lots of time and work and attention. Building and maintaining things, cleaning them, monitoring systems, wifi alerts......

Ok, so again, speaking for myself, what's great about all of this is that there's something in growing for everyone. Like any hobby........beer brewers. One person likes Pilsners, another likes huge 11% stouts......whatever it is, to each their own. The reasons the SCROG thing isn't really for me? I want to grow many varieties at once. Maximizing space, and time......isn't important to me. Maximizing yield isn't important to me. I couldn't consume an ounce of great weed, with my wife, in 3 months. I could supply us, and 10 friends for free, without ever having to maximize yield. And I don't care if it takes 100 days from seed to harvest, or 150 days. I have seedlings right now that are more than 3 weeks old, poor things........by the time they're ready to flip they'll be on social security... ;). I also like to see different varieties grow into their own various natural (as much as it's possible) shapes and sizes. I like good dirt, I don't want to root clones, I like crossing different strains and making seeds and seeing how they turn out. And all I want to do is wheel around a certain number of larger pots, with 4 foot plants, water them, and roll them back.....maybe marvel at their unique developments for a little while, then go watch TV or something... ;)
 
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Hey, just want to say this is all really great, I remember reading about SOG and SCROG and other techniques in High Times years ago, as well as various books.......a quick comment about the English language......yes there are some particular peculiarities around certain spellings and all, but I think what makes English so good (whether it's what's made it dominant, or it's for other reasons I don't know), but I think it's because English is more built around its ease of speaking and dynamic communication, with the written parts of it being secondary, or afterthoughts. It's certainly not the same English of 300 years ago, or even 100 years ago. In many ways it's changed quite a bit since just the 1940s-50s. Look at movies and the way people spoke then, the words they used.......some of it is kind of comical. I'm sure English teachers would cringe at the way I write, which is as similar as I can get to the way I speak......maybe I should thank Jack Kerouac and a lot of the beats and hippies. ;). One of the words I use more than most people is "dude", which used to be a derogatory word for phoney cowboys or something. Nowadays it's mostly a term of endearment, or just a way to address someone you're familiar with. I don't do it but I know people who call women "dude", and it's not derogatory at all. It can also mean "what the heck is wrong with you why would you do that that's crazy!". And all you have to say is......"..Dude!!" ;)

Ok, the growing weed thing then I'll let you all get back to the SCROG thing, and what sounds like Star Trek talk about watering systems and nutrients.......to me, that's all a foreign language. Watering is something you do with the pouring or hosing of the clear liquid into the pots, and nutrients are things that come in containers that you add a little of into the clear stuff after a month or two as the soil and peat and compost and......guano.....start wearing down a bit. ;)

So yes, these methods are great, and many people would be well-served to listen and learn and adopt these methods. Maximizing yield, minimizing growth time.....maximizing space.....and when it's all said and cured.....maximixing $ return. A lot of people need, want to do all of these things.....all the way to production oriiented commercials growers.

So i can only speak for myself, and maybe some others......as I look at these systems some things I wonder are how you can access everything, what you do if part or all of the watering system fails (and you're not there), what you do if you want to go away for a week, although this can be a problem for all growers all the time.......automated systems are like self-driving cars, all good until a crash happens, then, not so much.....

And there are answers to all of these things, I'm not saying there aren't, but these things all together require lots of time and work and attention. Building and maintaining things, cleaning them, monitoring systems, wifi alerts......

Ok, so again, speaking for myself, what's great about all of this is that there's something in growing for everyone. Like any hobby........beer brewers. One person likes Pilsners, another likes huge 11% stouts......whatever it is, to each their own. The reasons the SCROG thing isn't really for me? I want to grow many varieties at once. Maximizing space, and time......isn't important to me. Maximizing yield isn't important to me. I couldn't consume an ounce of great weed, with my wife, in 3 months. I could supply us, and 10 friends for free, without ever having to maximize yield. And I don't care if it takes 100 days from seed to harvest, or 150 days. I have seedlings right now that are more than 3 weeks old, poor things........by the time they're ready to flip they'll be on social security... ;). I also like to see different varieties grow into their own various natural (as much as it's possible) shapes and sizes. I like good dirt, I don't want to root clones, I like crossing different strains and making seeds and seeing how they turn out. And all I want to do is wheel around a certain number of larger pots, with 4 foot plants, water them, and roll them back.....maybe marvel at their unique developments for a little while, then go watch TV or something... ;)
Its like you said, a hobby. Some people tend to invest more time in their hobby, some dont.

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Just found this thread. Much to learn in here. Gonna give that fimming a try next time for sure. I just installed my net a few days ago. Topped once and trying to fill the net now. I will cut down the lower/smaller branches as you suggested.
Thx for the read.
 
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The reasons the SCROG thing isn't really for me? I want to grow many varieties at once. Maximizing space, and time......isn't important to me. Maximizing yield isn't important to me
I scrog for different reasons... outside, because it helps with maintenance, keeping all the buds similar size helps get an evenly finished harvest and makes drying easier, helps me see everything that's going in in the canopy and underneath, keeps the risk of mold lower, keeps airflow better. Easier to keep an eye on a 4 foot tall scrogged plant than an 8 foot tall beast that requires a ladder to care for. I also grow many strains in a season, had 2 in the same scrog last year. Of course it's much different outdoors. I initially tried it for stealth, but found so many benefits, I won't go back and am going to try and scrog all my plants this year. As far as automation, the technology now makes it pretty straightforward I think... I have no automation, I'm the controller and waterer. I could ramble on (que Led Zeppelin) but I gotta go to work... I'll ramble more later lol.
 
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I scrog for different reasons... outside, because it helps with maintenance, keeping all the buds similar size helps get an evenly finished harvest and makes drying easier, helps me see everything that's going in in the canopy and underneath, keeps the risk of mold lower, keeps airflow better. Easier to keep an eye on a 4 foot tall scrogged plant than an 8 foot tall beast that requires a ladder to care for. I also grow many strains in a season, had 2 in the same scrog last year. Of course it's much different outdoors. I initially tried it for stealth, but found so many benefits, I won't go back and am going to try and scrog all my plants this year. As far as automation, the technology now makes it pretty straightforward I think... I have no automation, I'm the controller and waterer. I could ramble on (que Led Zeppelin) but I gotta go to work... I'll ramble more later lol.
I totally get the reasons people want to do it......I'm actually quite psyched to grow an 8 foot tall......heck, a 12 foot tall beast outside this year. Live Aid was awful (although Queen was fantastic), but Page/Plant in '94-95 was so good. Some of the best shows I've ever seen.
 
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This is why I scrog.
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Top pic , yesterday day 54 of flower.
Bottom two were from day 47
 
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Hey, just want to say this is all really great, I remember reading about SOG and SCROG and other techniques in High Times years ago, as well as various books.......a quick comment about the English language......yes there are some particular peculiarities around certain spellings and all, but I think what makes English so good (whether it's what's made it dominant, or it's for other reasons I don't know), but I think it's because English is more built around its ease of speaking and dynamic communication, with the written parts of it being secondary, or afterthoughts. It's certainly not the same English of 300 years ago, or even 100 years ago. In many ways it's changed quite a bit since just the 1940s-50s. Look at movies and the way people spoke then, the words they used.......some of it is kind of comical. I'm sure English teachers would cringe at the way I write, which is as similar as I can get to the way I speak......maybe I should thank Jack Kerouac and a lot of the beats and hippies. ;). One of the words I use more than most people is "dude", which used to be a derogatory word for phoney cowboys or something. Nowadays it's mostly a term of endearment, or just a way to address someone you're familiar with. I don't do it but I know people who call women "dude", and it's not derogatory at all. It can also mean "what the heck is wrong with you why would you do that that's crazy!". And all you have to say is......"..Dude!!" ;)

Ok, the growing weed thing then I'll let you all get back to the SCROG thing, and what sounds like Star Trek talk about watering systems and nutrients.......to me, that's all a foreign language. Watering is something you do with the pouring or hosing of the clear liquid into the pots, and nutrients are things that come in containers that you add a little of into the clear stuff after a month or two as the soil and peat and compost and......guano.....start wearing down a bit. ;)

So yes, these methods are great, and many people would be well-served to listen and learn and adopt these methods. Maximizing yield, minimizing growth time.....maximizing space.....and when it's all said and cured.....maximixing $ return. A lot of people need, want to do all of these things.....all the way to production oriiented commercials growers.

So i can only speak for myself, and maybe some others......as I look at these systems some things I wonder are how you can access everything, what you do if part or all of the watering system fails (and you're not there), what you do if you want to go away for a week, although this can be a problem for all growers all the time.......automated systems are like self-driving cars, all good until a crash happens, then, not so much.....

And there are answers to all of these things, I'm not saying there aren't, but these things all together require lots of time and work and attention. Building and maintaining things, cleaning them, monitoring systems, wifi alerts......

Ok, so again, speaking for myself, what's great about all of this is that there's something in growing for everyone. Like any hobby........beer brewers. One person likes Pilsners, another likes huge 11% stouts......whatever it is, to each their own. The reasons the SCROG thing isn't really for me? I want to grow many varieties at once. Maximizing space, and time......isn't important to me. Maximizing yield isn't important to me. I couldn't consume an ounce of great weed, with my wife, in 3 months. I could supply us, and 10 friends for free, without ever having to maximize yield. And I don't care if it takes 100 days from seed to harvest, or 150 days. I have seedlings right now that are more than 3 weeks old, poor things........by the time they're ready to flip they'll be on social security... ;). I also like to see different varieties grow into their own various natural (as much as it's possible) shapes and sizes. I like good dirt, I don't want to root clones, I like crossing different strains and making seeds and seeing how they turn out. And all I want to do is wheel around a certain number of larger pots, with 4 foot plants, water them, and roll them back.....maybe marvel at their unique developments for a little while, then go watch TV or something... ;)
You sort of answered your own question, I stared growing because my girlfriend uses cannabis for medicine. For us to use an ounce a week is nothing so efficiency, quality, and time all become very important. As for the automation it actually gives you way more time to care for your plants and time to do other stuff. I just fill the res ever 4-6 days with nutrient water and watch things grow. I don’t believe there is a right or wrong way to grow cannabis.
 
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Well now I have to share pics... this is why I outdoor scrog. 😁
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Super Silver Haze and Amnesia Lemon
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Next season I'm going to try to go wider... but I do like the big ol arms... make trimming, washing and drying easier.
 
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You sort of answered your own question, I stared growing because my girlfriend uses cannabis for medicine. For us to use an ounce a week is nothing so efficiency, quality, and time all become very important. As for the automation it actually gives you way more time to care for your plants and time to do other stuff. I just fill the res ever 4-6 days with nutrient water and watch things grow. I don’t believe there is a right or wrong way to grow cannabis.
I think we already agreed on that last part. All good..... ;)
 
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Beautiful 🥰
Wish I could grow outside.
Yep, there are a lot of things to consider when growing outdoors......if you have the property, the space, the right conditions, it's legal (or legal enough...), safe from others....

Cannabis aside, the Western US has some difficult choices to make around water resources.....these areas feed much of the country. Farms, fisheries, housing.....
 
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These ladies are flat out hauling a**. I will be Fimming within the next few days. Plan on doing a video, so you can see the method close up.
After this week, I can well tell that the Runtz Wreck will be taking the four by four for herself. (Right rear in this update pic) She already has close to a three foot spread and is showing no sign of slowing down.
Getting very close to table time!
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