>>>>>>Colorado Medical Marijuana Laws are changing<<<<<<

[sky high]

yo CJ.

like pp...I think we'd probably find we were closer on our opinions/actions that this keyboard allows should we come face-to-face and burn one. In the end no matter what our views the herb is the common thread we are all connected by.

IMO.... (that $.02 that isn't worth much these days)

The doc who writes the bogus rec and the person seeking the card 'to get high" w/no medical need are both shady characters. It takes 2 to Tango... and in this case, add in the dispensary for a backup for the shadiness required to finalize the deal. Nah...nothing wrong there.

Now let's head to the Welfare Dept for some Food stamps and Welfare $$$ cus...well.... not only do we like to get high (we have our card now, and thus, the munchies follow) we also like to eat....so fuck...there's our >in< that we need to access the FS program. Cool, huh?

"Review" docs are supposed to do just that...>>>review<<< existing medical records to be the filter for the CDPH/MMJ program against fraud. You, CJ, obviously have the records...so a 15 minute visit is sufficient to review your stack of paperwork. Same here....my medical file is 2 inches thick.... my doc spent 10 minutes thumbing through 15 years of documented problems and there was no question whether I qualified or not.

It's when the person has NO records and this "review' doc says 'We all have pain"...or some other such shit on-the-spot and writes the rec with no back up documnetation that the law is broken/problems arise, IMO. (it's called fraud and both parties are guilty)

but hey....whatever. It's so out of control now....even with the added regs...that it's only a matter of time before more legislation is intro'd to clean up the mess folks will undoubtedly be making jumping through the new loopholes....I mean....new "laws". LOL.

in the end we're just growin and hopin here. Hopin that folks will figure out that even if they don't like it Gov't is gonna have their thumb on 'em to en extent and will react to the indescretions people take with the law....ESPECIALLY if you fly yer flag right in their face and make it damn hard for them NOT to react. Such is the case here. Before the circus came to town folks were growing with no limits on plant counts (caregiverships). After the 3 ring was fully in operation we are now limited in what we can do....and that is a fact that cannot be denied. Such shit pisses me off. I can't help it. Folks just can't be happy with what they have most of the time.....

grow on.... it's alll ya can do.

s h

 

[sky high]

fuckin A..... I think this takes the "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" motif to a whole new level. i think they think they can ban ALL MMJ in their town....not so.

you can comment without registering...for now...LOL. Go get em, kids.....


The Parker Town Council votes to prohibit sale of medical marijuana

July 12

the town of Parker Colorado joins the growing list of towns in Douglas County to discourage the medical marijuana business for their area.

The ordinance prohibits all of the aspects of medical marijuana below within the Town limits.

Retail sales of medical marijuana
distribution of marijuana
cultivation of marijuana
dispensing of medical marijuana

This ordinance is consistent with the Colorado Medical Marijuana Code, which gives the Town Council this authority.

“We strongly believe that allowing the retail sale of medical marijuana would not be in the best interest of Parker residents,” said Mayor David Casiano. “However, we are not denying anyone necessary medical care.:

Penalties for violating this ordinance could result in fines and/or imprisonment. For more information please see Parker Municipal Code Ordinance No. 3.01.94.

http://www.examiner.com/x-51001-Par...l-votes-to-prohibit-sale-of-medical-marijuana

 

[Mr.Sputnik]

No commercial enterprise in jeffco, not a surprise. I love the democratic "citizens can't function without government" view expressed as "voters didn't know what they were approving with AM20" mentioned in the blurb.

It would help if degenerates stayed out of CO's MMJ, note the administration of medication. I can't disagree with them on that point.

 

[sky high]

Severe/chronic pain has always been on the list of approved ailments. I hate it when our elected officials can't read simple text and then choose to make the WRONG decisions.

the thing the counties are NOT telling their constituents is that by banning MMJ they are opening to door for all patients to circumvent the "5 patient" cap. My county has NO CLUE about this....and still thinks they are going to regulate individual rights via zoning/etc.

not gonna happen.

thanks for the link, sput.

s h

 

[RMCG]

No commercial enterprise in jeffco, not a surprise. I love the democratic "citizens can't function without government" view expressed as "voters didn't know what they were approving with AM20" mentioned in the blurb.

It would help if degenerates stayed out of CO's MMJ, note the administration of medication. I can't disagree with them on that point.

"he was grateful for the time and effort that the Sheriff, District Attorney and staff put into their research on the issue."

Input from 1 side of government, the prosecution.

"Local Option" is what everyone is touting, yet they are again failing.

Local Option is a term used to describe the freedom whereby local political jurisdictions, typically counties or municipalities, can decide by popular vote certain controversial issues within their borders.

It is not meant to give them POWER to DECIDE, it is meant to give them the 'option' to put it up to a vote, if they so choose.

Politicians amaze me.

 

[sky high]

My county's attorney spent loads of time telling the comissioners about their "powers".

He spent NO TIME whatsoever outlining the RIGHTS of the patient under these same laws.

right there is where they are gonna get FUCKED. When I told my CC's that the proposed "growing regulations' they were working on were unconstitutional they looked at me like i was from another planet.....even going as far to tell me they could still zone any/all of this they pleased. i'm not sure they EVER figured out that what we are dealing with here are Constitutional RIGHT.....not "privilege".

s h

 

[RMCG]

I tell ya, sometimes this crap reminds me of the Matrix.

Of the 1% that knows they are living in BS, more than half want to be 'put back in'.

They only have as much 'power' as they are 'given'. Hope they are 'reminded' of that when elections come around. I doubt it though, as the majority of 'subjects' are too stupid to NOT be 'governed'. I guess they will get exactly what what they deserve...

 

[sky high]

the problem I see, my friend..is that they will ACT and once they do it's very hard to pull any of their actions back in line....without a court battle, that is.

It's like the "injuctions' that folks claimed would be filed immediately against SB1284.... yeah...sure thing. By the time anyone gets anything into court MANY of the decisions will have already been made and lotsa folks will be out of business. Sure..you can fight in court for losses...>>IF<<< you haven't been financially devastated by the decisions and still have any $$$ left..... but by that time it's already tooo late.

The State should have sent out CLEAR directives to ALL counties with the passing of 1284.
As it stands (IMO) the county attorney's are interpreting ONLY the parts of the bill that benefit the county (via controls).

If you watch the news on TV you weill hear them talk about banning "Medical marijuana", which, IMO, givesd the public a false representation of what can/cannot be done via these laws and what will happen if a ban is actually put in place. (it will all go away)

hardly.

yup...we need to get the current clowns out of office so we can get a new crop of clowns to sit in their place.... LOL

wot a mess...

s h

 

[sky high]

New rule stands to squeeze med pot providers out of retail space
Jared Jacang Maher, Face the State
Saturday, July 24, 2010

Eva and Mitch Woolhiser invested $50,000 for improvements to their dispensary; the state may force the couple to move the business.

The Colorado Housing and Finance Authority has put medical marijuana dispensaries on its list of so-called “sin businesses,” meaning the pot providers cannot lease space in more than 500 commercial properties CHFA is currently financing across the state.

The agency, which provides funding for affordable housing and small businesses, adopted the new rule in April, exposing yet another fissure of uncertainty and contradiction between state and federal law on the topic of medicinal pot.

Already, at least one operator has been caught in the crossfire. When Mitch Woolhiser was told he was now considered to be the owner/operator of a “sin business” and would probably have to relocate, he couldn’t believe his ears. In February the former software developer and his wife, Eva, a dental hygienist, had signed a three-year lease on the spiffy storefront in the town of Edgewater, just west of Denver, and opened the Northern Lights medical marijuana dispensary. Two months later, his landlord, Charles Woolley of St. Charles Town Company, broke the news that CFHA had sent notice that the dispensary was in violation of the property’s mortgage agreement.

Woolley, who has redeveloped numerous urban properties in Denver, was able to finance the Edgewater project in 2007 through $8.7 million in New Market Tax Credits offered by the federal government. Since the funds were administered through CHFA, however, it’s up to officials from the quasi-public agency to enforce rules preventing to certain types of businesses from setting up shop in the space, namely “sin businesses” such as liquor stores, massage parlors, gambling outfits and tanning salons.

According to CHFA Executive Director Cris White, the designation comes from Small Business Administration commercial lending guidelines. When CHFA began issuing and facilitating loans for small businesses in the ‘80s, the organization decided to adopt the “sin business” policy as their own.

Can’t take the risk?

“The primary sources of capital for us today for small business lending are related to federal funds,” White said. “With respect to these sources of capital, we certainly can’t take the risk of doing something that isn’t in conformance with federal government regulations.”

Especially if those federal regulations don’t recognize medical marijuana as legal, even if Colorado law does. At an April 22 meeting of the CFHA board, White referenced the situation with Northern Lights and cited concern that properties housing medical marijuana businesses could be impounded by the federal government. Unwilling to add such risk to CHFA’s nearly $300 million commercial loan portfolio, the board voted unanimously to prohibit authority-financed properties from being leased to medical marijuana businesses, as they do liquor stores and other “sin businesses.”

Ironically, one of the CHFA board members to support the new policy was Roxy Huber, executive director of the Colorado Department of Revenue, who was appointed to CHFA’s board by Gov. Bill Ritter. The Department of Revenue is the agency in charge of adopting and overseeing new laws regulating the legal sale of medical marijuana in the state. Given that CHFA was created by the Colorado Legislature, does White see any problems with deferring to the feds on this issue?

CHFA’s policy change is not a commentary on Colorado’s medical marijuana law, White said.

“It’s a constitutional amendment, we know what it legalizes, we know voters approved it, and we know its use. That’s perfectly legitimate,” he said.

But he added that there is no gray area in federal law, “and because we are held to that, we do not want to risk the flow of capital into the state.”

Possible reconsideration

However, CHFA could possibly reconsider their blanket prohibition once the turmoil of implementing Colorado’s new medical marijuana laws are ironed out by regulators, he offered.

“The regulatory environment is just so in flux right now that we don’t understand the market and don’t know how to underwrite the risk,” he said.

Yet in the meantime, it’s caregivers like Woolhiser who are getting squeezed out. He estimates he and his wife spent $50,000 to build out the retail space with a secure foyer, a waiting room and other amenities that will be lost when he is forced to move. He said they’ve been given until August to relocate somewhere else, though he doesn’t know where that will be. Most metro area cities, including Denver, have enacted moratoriums on granting new medical marijuana business licenses.

One local attorney who represents many in the local medical marijuana business thinks that CFHA could be risking a lawsuit with its new policy. Bob Hoban cites a recent district court ruling that held that the medical marijuana caregivers have the right to do business in the state.

“Now if the government is in fact standing in the way of these individuals from delivering on that right, there’s absolutely a cause of action in there that’s constitutional in nature,” he said.

As for Woolhiser, he said he is not interested in taking the state lending group to court.

“I don’t want it to sound like I’m bashing CHFA, because I’m not,” said the dispensary owner, who earned a master’s degree in business last year. “But I see myself as a small business owner like any other small business. We don’t see many options going forward.”

 

[RMCG]

Wow. Dispensaries on par with titty bars and liquor stores that sell 40oz'ers...

Hope that Walgreens and CVS didn't get any of that money.

50k dumped into a business. Sounds like low rent, fly by night, sin business to me.

 

[sky high]

Broomfield bans marijuana dispensaries

The Associated Press
Posted: 07/28/2010 06:51:19 AM MDTUpdated: 07/28/2010 08:22:00 AM MDT


BROOMFIELD, Colo.—Broomfield has become the latest city to ban medical marijuana dispensaries.
The City Council Tuesday voted 8-2 on a ordinance prohibiting businesses that sell or grow medical marijuana as well as ones that make tinctures, baked goods or other "marijuana-infused products."

Superior and Vail last month were among the first cities to permanently ban marijuana dispensaries after the Colorado Legislature granted municipalities authority to outlaw such businesses.

 

[edux10]

^^ that is messed up

 

[Mr.Sputnik]

edux10, it's just MMJ businesses. Private caregivership will thrive in these communities as you will most likely be granted permission to caregive for more than 5 patients if you live in a community with a ban.

 

[TheReleafCenter]

edux10, it's just MMJ businesses. Private caregivership will thrive in these communities as you will most likely be granted permission to caregive for more than 5 patients if you live in a community with a ban.

I never thought about that, but that's a great case for getting an exemption. As soon as the CDPHE finishes their rule making process, that's a great thing to inquire about.

 

[TheReleafCenter]

Plane thief just got put on the MMJ advisory counsel:http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/07/ken_weaver_and_medical_marijua.php

​For its new Medical Marijuana Advisory Committee, the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment selected Ken Weaver, subject of this week's "Blowing Smoke." It's the latest item on a résumé that includes going to prison for stealing a plane and making up a fake life -- but CDPHE apparently didn't know that part of his story. Weaver skipped over his past on a committee application obtained by Westword -- and listed a current job that doesn't seem to exist.

Weaver did not return repeated phone messages. But in his application to the state, he noted that he's a survivor of Hodgkin's lymphoma and "has been involved with various industry segments throughout his career." According to the bio he provided, that included working for construction management companies, a telecommunications concern and "additional utility elements."

Nowhere does he note that from 2006 until 2009, he owned Freedom Power, a Texas electricity company known for racking up the highest number of consumer complaints in the state; that he amassed a fortune and raced in NASCAR; or that he made up a fantastic background for himself, including imaginary college degrees, false football exploits and bogus construction executive jobs.

In reality, Weaver was a college dropout who'd spent time in prison for stealing cars, as well as a single-engine Cessna. When authorities found the Cessna in South Texas in 1986, it was filled money, a rifle, a set of scales and maps of Mexican ranch airstrips.

When Dallas Morning News reporters confronted Weaver about his past in the summer of 2009, he sold his shares of the power company and was quoted as saying, "My real instinct right now is to go hide under a rock." On October 1, 2009, four days before the Dallas Morning News story hit the stands, Michelle Piwonski, a woman who'd shared an address with Weaver in Dallas, had filed incorporation papers in Colorado for the Rocky Mountain Farmacy, a company that now has three Denver locations.

In several phone interviews last week, Piwonski insisted Weaver wasn't associated with the Farmacy. "He's not on any licenses, nothing," she said. "He is just a patient advocate." But Weaver's committee application includes Piwonski as a reference. Also listed: Tom Lewis, a man who works at one of the Farmacy locations.

If Weaver isn't associated with the Farmacy, what exactly is he doing? According to his application, he's the regional sales manager for "PCI, Inc.," a company that builds and sells parts used in the automotive aftermarket industry and in oil-field services. The number he listed on his application for PCI, Inc., however, is his personal number -- a number that also appears on a series of recent Denver Craigslist ads hawking "Top quality meds at low prices" and marijuana strains such as NYC Diesel, OG Kush and Orange Glory.

PCI, Inc. may refer to Pollution Control Industries, Inc., a Minnesota-based company that sells aftermarket automotive parts. But Mary Imgrund, PCI, Inc.'s self-described "administrative goddess," says over the phone, "We don't have a Denver office. We don't have any offsite sales people at all... I've been here 20 years, and I don't know who this joker is."

A call to another "PCI, Inc." -- Pollution Control Installations in Ontario, Canada -- also confirmed that no one named Ken Weaver has ever worked there.

For PCI, Inc.'s Denver address, Weaver listed 820 South Monaco Parkway, Suite 162. But neither that suite number nor any other professional offices exist at that address. It's a strip mall featuring a UPS store, a Chipotle restaurant and an optical business.

When asked about Weaver's application, CDPHE spokesperson Mark Salley says, "We don't do background checks for individuals serving on advisory boards," reiterating a CDPHE statement given to Westword last week. He added, however, that "if we did an investigation and determined that information on an application was falsified, that certainly could affect someone's standing as to whether or not the individual would serve on the committee. We would have to look into that."

A decision on the matter may come soon. The first meeting of the Medical Marijuana Registry Advisory Committee, which is open to the public, is scheduled for tomorrow, July 29, from 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. in the Sabin Conference Room at CDPHE's offices, 4300 Cherry Creek Drive South, Denver.

No word yet as to whether Weaver will attend.

 

[SweetIslandFunk]

I HATE ADAMS COUNTY:middlefinger

 

[Cat Jockey]

Private caregivership will thrive in these communities as you will most likely be granted permission to caregive for more than 5 patients if you live in a community with a ban.

People in Broomfield will drive to a dispensary in Boulder or Denver. No biggie. They ain't gonna advertise on Craigslist for a caregiver ... they are gonna to go to a dispensary, not all, but most. Caregivers will not be able to compete with tthe services and variety and quailty that will be around 12 months from now.

 

[sky high]

They won't have to advertise on craigslist, cat.... they will just register on the State's new registry as someone looking for a caregiver and they will get names in their area to contact and will find a caregiver that way.

I don't think it's the caregivers who should be worried. The folks who should be worried are the dispensaries/growers who are investing >>all the re$ource$ they have right now<< (that will never be as much as the larger franchises will have to invest) in this first "push" to get going who will then not be able to compete with the BIG franchises that are coming in the next 12 months or less. It'll be just like Wally World has done to most mom and pop hardware, clothing, shoe, and toy stores. BAM. Within 6 months the little guy is gone from the market share.

And with folks holding signs roadside tryin' to sell joints (and elephant rides)...the voters may take care of the dispensaries in most locales before any of the above happens.

 

[RMCG]

While I am a capitalist through and through, I have NEVER stepped foot in a WalMart in my life. I support the little guy, the mom and pops, ,even if it means a little more out of my pocket.

Trickle down works.

I stimulate the hell out of the LOCAL economy every chance I get.

Always have, always will.

 

[sky high]

Yer in the minority, RMCG. Folks will migrate to the deals, even if the product is inferior.

Such is what we will see with the Wal-Martization of medical cannabis that is coming.

The BIG boiz aren't gonna let you stay in business very long, Cat jockey. Just long enough to know you've exhausted your cash flow... then buh-bye....

there's already an ad on craigslist for a dispensary lookin for product. It's either a trap..or it's a sign of things to come.

should be a good show either way