Council Of First Knowledge, Jedi Temple Training Facility

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Dewd

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EventHorizan said:
I would still keep them plants quarantined,
take clones of them,
and watch the clones...

U got a good phenos there that you dont want to lose?
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Yes sir I will. Right now the seeded cups are in my basement all by themselves.
The older plants that I'm trying to save are still in the barn that had the mites. I think I will slow down on spraying them and give them a chance to recover. They've been through hell and back.
 
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Is it possible the intensity of the hid side is consuming more water then the led side??
Harley @NPK says that plants will absorb N whenever available so more water more N. Im not 100% just brainstorming.....
 
EventHorizan

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well here is how I wind things mentally...
I follow all the rules of coco...
I broke the rule of median drying out...
So it made 4 or 5 tops go all silly..
But yet the one that was drooping the hardest
didnt do that, it just had some tip burn( which is what I would expect to see)
when drying out..
As for the lights intensity,
does it actually cause the plant to uptake more?
I dont think so..
I think that is regulated by heat, or VPD.
And They are vented so canopy temps under light or about the same as under led..

But it has to be from drying out! Some do it and some dont! I cant think of any other variables...
 
Wisher619

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EventHorizan said:
well here is how I wind things mentally...
I follow all the rules of coco...
I broke the rule of median drying out...
So it made 4 or 5 tops go all silly..
But yet the one that was drooping the hardest
didnt do that, it just had some tip burn( which is what I would expect to see)
when drying out..
As for the lights intensity,
does it actually cause the plant to uptake more?
I dont think so..
I think that is regulated by heat, or VPD.
And They are vented so canopy temps under light or about the same as under led..

But it has to be from drying out! Some do it and some dont! I cant think of any other variables...
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actually uptake has everything to do with light saturation not VPD
VPD has to do with vascular system
more light = more photosynthisis
more photo = more uptake *enhanced by CO2
VPD has to do with respiration which regulates water intake and vascular rigidity
 
EventHorizan

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Wisher619 said:
actually uptake has everything to do with light saturation not VPD
VPD has to do with vascular system
more light = more photosynthisis
more photo = more uptake *enhanced by CO2
VPD has to do with respiration which regulates water intake and vascular rigidity
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Well I still dont believe that its from too bright a light...
its a 600 watter in a vented glass hood that is on its 3 rd flower run,
that is at least 16 inches above them...

I guarantee it had no where the intensity of Snaky's 4000 watts of cfl...
I have had my 1000 watter as close as this without the glass.

but nevertheless I did move them up last night and dropped the Ec..
 
Toph420

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EventHorizan said:
Well I still dont believe that its from too bright a light...
its a 600 watter in a vented glass hood that is on its 3 rd flower run,
that is at least 16 inches above them...

I guarantee it had no where the intensity of Snaky's 4000 watts of cfl...
I have had my 1000 watter as close as this without the glass.

but nevertheless I did move them up last night and dropped the Ec..
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I don't think the light is too bright/intense, i think he just means the light is more intense than the LED which means the ones directly under the 600's might have drank more/quicker (and ran out of water quicker) during their drought which might be why its only showing under the 600's.
Thats what i got out of what he was saying at least.
 
EventHorizan

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Whichbwould be great except the plant that had thw worst BY A LoNG SHOT!!!, didnt have any bad tops..
WHich was almost directly under the hid...
Something else is at play here...
You know how you just know?
U can feel it..
Cant explain it but you know...
Well we see how they look tonight...

So wisher even tho they are mangled looking, they still doing there job?
 
EventHorizan

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Wisher I have been complaining of high N tox for months..
Remember?
Because this is what i keep seeing.
Too high of Ec coming out of week 3?
Ppl say that they drop the Ec after stretch. Do u think there is any weight in that?
Maybe i should apply another tes feeding..
Do you think i killed off my biology when it dried out?
 
Wisher619

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EventHorizan said:
Wisher I have been complaining of high N tox for months..
Remember?
Because this is what i keep seeing.
Too high of Ec coming out of week 3?
Ppl say that they drop the Ec after stretch. Do u think there is any weight in that?
Maybe i should apply another tes feeding..
Do you think i killed off my biology when it dried out?
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I would do a mini flush and read your runoff
my runoff has never gone above 1500ppm
I have also never had what your plants look like
yeah I remember you complaining in the UC system as well
the only time we didnt see it was with the lucus formula for you
 
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EventHorizan said:
Whichbwould be great except the plant that had thw worst BY A LoNG SHOT!!!, didnt have any bad tops..
WHich was almost directly under the hid...
Something else is at play here...
You know how you just know?
U can feel it..
Cant explain it but you know...
Well we see how they look tonight...

So wisher even tho they are mangled looking, they still doing there job?
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Is there any fans blowing on them too hard maybe?
 
EventHorizan

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Wisher619 said:
I would do a mini flush and read your runoff
my runoff has never gone above 1500ppm
I have also never had what your plants look like
yeah I remember you complaining in the UC system as well
the only time we didnt see it was with the lucus formula for you
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RIGHT! This isnt a coco thing!
Maybe drying out exacerbated it, and the lights but something else is happening!
And Im using FNB,
that is Lucas...
Well I got a new res to make tonight.. Last time was just FNB...
This time its Si, Fnb, Floralicious, Hydrogaurd, and mammoth P..I will go down and test run off of whats in the drain here in a few..
Got some pics coming up..
 
EventHorizan

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So all the tops that are seriously effected are on 1 plant. I however see slight signs on another and the far end of the tent... So that takes light out of the equation...
It does seem like the higher colas was most effected,
BUT so were a few below canopy...
I cant find similarities between effected plants..
 
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EventHorizan

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EventHorizan said:
So all the tops that are seriously effected are on 1 plant. I however see slight signs on another and the far end of the tent... So that takes light out of the equation...
It does seem like the higher colas was most effected,
BUT so were a few below canopy...
I cant find similarities between effected plants..
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As you can see they are still growing but maybe not as thick as ones not effected..
 
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