curing nug the right way?

Tnelz · Jun 11, 2014

Aladeen OG said:
maybe you should re read both our post, and see who is being negative and complaining. this is a discussion board. what if i dont suck your asshole and techniques i cant join in on ideas? relax dude and take a breath.
the fact is putting your weed in anything lower than 50 degrees IS BAD as far as i have known and learned. you fracture all the outside trichomes, leaving it smelling a lot better cause they are open (see "dry ice hash" or "bubble hash" and tech behind it... freeze=fractured heads falling off=concentrates) but are now degraded and stale.

why fix something if it isnt broken? same could be said for LEDs, water cooled lights, dry trim vs wet, gas lantern technique... i just think there are a crew of like 5 of you spitting "research" as strict knowledge. read through how you deviate your posts. you make them seem fact. then two posts ago you said still developing and shit. how many people in this thread have you convinced to throw weed in the freezer without real research? thats my only problem here. I'm always open to new ideas but.... well you dont make it sound like and end all, but a must try....

for you newer people... i suggest trying to dry it the NORMAL way first.... then see what happens. but most people are so impatient they start sweating too early or just fuck up and end up with hay so.... whatever makes it easy for you. no disrespect intended nor taken @Tnelz , im here for discussion and knowledge not drama. i just dont have a filter and will ask what i think, which is a hell of a handy tool to have and not be ashamed of.
i'll happily eat my foot when someone drops proof and knowledge that im wrong, thats why im here i love info.

and as far as the paper bags its a humidity regulator and works more perfect that any other product ive found... that is free.... on every corner at every store.... lol

Ok. Listen. I am all for traditional dry cure. I agree with u a thousand percent. 1000% that anyone new to growing should learn how to dry and cure traditionally. No doubt. Your wrong here though bro. I apologize if I misread ur post but it's confrontational to suggest I or anyone else here can't do things like hang and dry. So I've read all the same things u did. When this was brought to me I thought it was nuts. But said fuck it and tried it. It works. That's a fact. Believe or don't. I don't do it because it doesn't. Sorry it's an on going learning process that I continue to try ways to make it better. Ask someone like sea maiden if hanging in a 40 degree room to dry is bad. It isn't. This isn't a 40 degree room I know but it just shows u that that under 50 stuff isn't true. There is nothing wrong with my trichomes or the quality of my bud. If someone wants to try it what's the harm. Ur just plain wrong here bro. So others on this thread tried it and it worked for them. Another person didn't like it. Did I swoop in and attack. No. It's cool to each their own. But for u to just outright say this doesn't work or is stupid isn't right. No place have I espoused science in this. I can use the word fact because it works for me fact. Even the dude that didn't particularly like it didn't smash it like u are bro. Give it a shot with a couple buds. If it doesn't work like I say it does or u just don't like it then come back and say that. U just don't have a leg to stand on in till u do. I apologize for my tone. Earlier. I didn't have any problem with ur post just the way it was posted.

Tnelz · Jun 11, 2014

Aladeen OG said:
maybe you should re read both our post, and see who is being negative and complaining. this is a discussion board. what if i dont suck your asshole and techniques i cant join in on ideas? relax dude and take a breath.
the fact is putting your weed in anything lower than 50 degrees IS BAD as far as i have known and learned. you fracture all the outside trichomes, leaving it smelling a lot better cause they are open (see "dry ice hash" or "bubble hash" and tech behind it... freeze=fractured heads falling off=concentrates) but are now degraded and stale.

why fix something if it isnt broken? same could be said for LEDs, water cooled lights, dry trim vs wet, gas lantern technique... i just think there are a crew of like 5 of you spitting "research" as strict knowledge. read through how you deviate your posts. you make them seem fact. then two posts ago you said still developing and shit. how many people in this thread have you convinced to throw weed in the freezer without real research? thats my only problem here. I'm always open to new ideas but.... well you dont make it sound like and end all, but a must try....

for you newer people... i suggest trying to dry it the NORMAL way first.... then see what happens. but most people are so impatient they start sweating too early or just fuck up and end up with hay so.... whatever makes it easy for you. no disrespect intended nor taken @Tnelz , im here for discussion and knowledge not drama. i just dont have a filter and will ask what i think, which is a hell of a handy tool to have and not be ashamed of.
i'll happily eat my foot when someone drops proof and knowledge that im wrong, thats why im here i love info.

and as far as the paper bags its a humidity regulator and works more perfect that any other product ive found... that is free.... on every corner at every store.... lol

After rereading ur post. What exactly is real research bro. Isn't putting my weed into the freezer real research. Isn't changing up the process every time I do it to ultimately find the best way to do it research. Jesus bro. U asked a question how many people have I convinced to do this. I don't know nor do I care. How many people have come back to the thread and said it sux. None. One dude who never tried it did and loved it. Another not so much. If I was pushing this stupid weed ruining process on people which I'm not but if I was and it totally sucked don't u think we would have herd by now. So I don't know. I'm trying to be cool with it. I have no problem with debate but ur initial post was claiming we were looking for another way to do things Cuz we were unsuccessful at ur way. By the way I know why one would use a paper bag. I've tried it. Don't see any reason to need it if ur environment was right in the first place. But u don't hear me stomping on it. Just annoys me bro not going to lie. Also if u notice there are plenty of seasoned growers on this thread who were excited to try it. They must be crazy as well. It's an easier way to do things. Fact. Ur weed comes out better or at least as good as traditional. Fact. Why does it work. I don't have a clue. Only know that it does. Just curious what is unscientific about experiment. Lol. I'm totally done with this. Hope there are no hard feelings. Put some bud in the freezer. A gram or two. I'm sure u have many pounds. Follow the directions laid out for u. Let me know what u think. If u hate it I'd love to hear it. If ur objective in the very least u will c that it works and keeps it so simple. And isn't that the name of the game keeping it simple. Peace bro.

Gamrstwin36 · Jun 11, 2014

Tnelz said:
After rereading ur post. What exactly is real research bro. Isn't putting my weed into the freezer real research. Isn't changing up the process every time I do it to ultimately find the best way to do it research. Jesus bro. U asked a question how many people have I convinced to do this. I don't know nor do I care. How many people have come back to the thread and said it sux. None. One dude who never tried it did and loved it. Another not so much. If I was pushing this stupid weed ruining process on people which I'm not but if I was and it totally sucked don't u think we would have herd by now. So I don't know. I'm trying to be cool with it. I have no problem with debate but ur initial post was claiming we were looking for another way to do things Cuz we were unsuccessful at ur way. By the way I know why one would use a paper bag. I've tried it. Don't see any reason to need it if ur environment was right in the first place. But u don't hear me stomping on it. Just annoys me bro not going to lie. Also if u notice there are plenty of seasoned growers on this thread who were excited to try it. They must be crazy as well. It's an easier way to do things. Fact. Ur weed comes out better or at least as good as traditional. Fact. Why does it work. I don't have a clue. Only know that it does. Just curious what is unscientific about experiment. Lol. I'm totally done with this. Hope there are no hard feelings. Put some bud in the freezer. A gram or two. I'm sure u have many pounds. Follow the directions laid out for u. Let me know what u think. If u hate it I'd love to hear it. If ur objective in the very least u will c that it works and keeps it so simple. And isn't that the name of the game keeping it simple. Peace bro.

WHY he coming for us? seems like he has a target out for what though? makes no sense. we come in peace. and if he wants to point to something SQUIGGLY even commented and gave his SCIENTIFIC opinion which is worth more than gold. dont waste energy onem bro. seems like hes getting his thong ina bunch. keep it peaceful bro, we cant makem ALL see the light.
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and fyi we are NOT a CREW ..we are a GRASSROOTS ORG, setup to preserve genetics, help and teach what we can. PLEASE dont tag us with your negativity.

Tnelz · Jun 11, 2014

Natural said:
tried this with a cola of stardawg. maybe it is strain dependent, but I didn't notice any improvement over the whole-plants that hung in the dark for 3 weeks. I actually preferred it less. Might try agin with another strain down the road a bit.

Hey natural. What's up bro. Totally value ur opinion. Sorry that it didn't work the way u wanted it to. Don't think it's strain dependant. Think it's more preference. Just curious where it failed for u? If u get a chance let me know. Thanks!

Tnelz · Jun 11, 2014

Gamrstwin36 said:
WHY he coming for us? seems like he has a target out for what though? makes no sense. we come in peace. and if he wants to point to something SQUIGGLY even commented and gave his SCIENTIFIC opinion which is worth more than gold. dont waste energy onem bro. seems like hes getting his thong ina bunch. keep it peaceful bro, we cant makem ALL see the light.
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Ur right. Forgot squiggs had some cool things to say. Lol. Just didn't like the accusation. I'm done though. Lol.

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Power OG · Jun 11, 2014

He can keep talking smack but it just goes to show who was paying attention in grade school & who wasn't. Lmao its science not speculation. I tried telling the same dude just try it so he can see for hiself but some people just gotta keep up negative BS. It works end ofstory.
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Tnelz · Jun 11, 2014

Power OG said:
He can keep talking smack but it just goes to show who was paying attention in grade school & who wasn't. Lmao its science not speculation. I tried telling the same dude just try it so he can see for hiself but some people just gotta keep up negative BS. It works end ofstory.
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Natural · Jun 11, 2014

Tnelz said:
Hey natural. What's up bro. Totally value ur opinion. Sorry that it didn't work the way u wanted it to. Don't think it's strain dependant. Think it's more preference. Just curious where it failed for u? If u get a chance let me know. Thanks!

well...the bud closed up somewhat..looked more clumpy than having bulbous calyx..that part I didn't like so much. This pheno of stardawg didn't get run for it's flavor (mildly sweet pine) but after a month cure it gets really skunky smelling with a chem funk..the freezing kept it closer to a sweet soy/mushroom that it has in early drying, although the skunkiness smell was there too. The high seemed similar no real jump in potency or anything. The smoke is smooth already with major expansion..about the same. The pheno I ran is getting the back burner while I concentrate on some other seeds..going on a flavor kick. So, the things I didn't seem to care for might change with a more flavorful smoke.
I'll report back when I do. Also note that I went with a 3 week freeze after 4 days of hanging with the last 4 -5 days of getting it out for an hour.

Tnelz · Jun 11, 2014

Natural said:
well...the bud closed up somewhat..looked more clumpy than having bulbous calyx..that part I didn't like so much. This pheno of stardawg didn't get run for it's flavor (mildly sweet pine) but after a month cure it gets really skunky smelling with a chem funk..the freezing kept it closer to a sweet soy/mushroom that it has in early drying, although the skunkiness smell was there too. The high seemed similar no real jump in potency or anything. The smoke is smooth already with major expansion..about the same. The pheno I ran is getting the back burner while I concentrate on some other seeds..going on a flavor kick. So, the things I didn't seem to care for might change with a more flavorful smoke.
I'll report back when I do. Also note that I went with a 3 week freeze after 4 days of hanging with the last 4 -5 days of getting it out for an hour.

Thanks for the feedback bro. So overall maybe I got ur expectations up a little and it didn't live up. Apologies. Lol. All in all though not exactly a bad experience. That in and of itself is a positive. Glad u tried it. Good luck in the future bro. Continuing to try and tweek the method!

Canappa · Jun 11, 2014

Aladeen OG said:
im sorry but does anyone else see the humor in a thread called "curing nug the right way" and flip through the pages its all about dunkin your nugs in water and using a freezer.....:confused:
i'd venture to say a few of the people here just havent been able to pull a decent harvest and sweat/cure. looking for easier ways out. nothing beats darkness a little circulation and good ol eye/hand work. you can chop shit 3 days or 15 days and toss it in a paper bag, it will regulate moisture killer..... why make things harder?? i dont get it. hydrometer - science/sweating - releasing of gasses - storage for full breakdown. you dont need to make FPOG popsicles to be smokin herb...

Glad to see you like the humor in the tread. I dont see whats the big fuss about bro! To be coming on here and slamming me for what I do is just wrong, Nobody is making you read this tread , So what if I want to try something new and share it with the good peeps I know on the farm. Yeh I put my FPOG in the Freezer whats it to you? you hating because you dont have it! If it comes out bunk so be it! on to the next one,there is more where that came from:D I like to take chances in life sometimes you win and sometime you loose why stay doing the same old shit over and ever again, either way it goes I am happy. “If you don't take risks, you'll have a wasted soul.” Been on the farm and meet a lot of good people but sorry you hit my nerve I been growing for 20years and I am always changing my grow style, and it gets better each time. If I was to still grow and harvest like I use to 20 years ago without change my bud would be shitty as hell.

Even Ed Rosenthal recommends freeze drying. The cold keeps the terpentines fresher. The freezer connected to your fridge is frost free! Meaning it has a built in evaporator that draws out all moisture! The bud dries slowly without loosing the potency you would if you are drying in above 65 degree temps.

Power OG · Jun 11, 2014

Canappa said:
Glad to see you like the humor in the tread. I dont see whats the big fuss about bro! To be coming on here and slamming me for what I do is just wrong, Nobody is making you read this tread , So what if I want to try something new and share it with the good peeps I know on the farm. Yeh I put my FPOG in the Freezer whats it to you? you hating because you dont have it! If it comes out bunk so be it! on to the next one,there is more where that came from:D I like to take chances in life sometimes you win and sometime you loose why stay doing the same old shit over and ever again, either way it goes I am happy. “If you don't take risks, you'll have a wasted soul.” Been on the farm and meet a lot of good people but sorry you hit my nerve I been growing for 20years and I am always changing my grow style, and it gets better each time. If I was to still grow and harvest like I use to 20 years ago without change my bud would be shitty as hell.

Even Ed Rosenthal recommends freeze drying. The cold keeps the terpentines fresher. The freezer connected to your fridge is frost free! Meaning it has a built in evaporator that draws out all moisture! The bud dries slowly without loosing the potency you would if you are drying in above 65 degree temps.

Thank you bro. Thats what im saying. No need to bash anyone, Its science. Got maad respect for u bro. Im glad u said what u did. Cant wait your fpog will be tasty bro no doubt
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Tnelz · Jun 11, 2014

Canappa said:
Glad to see you like the humor in the tread. I dont see whats the big fuss about bro! To be coming on here and slamming me for what I do is just wrong, Nobody is making you read this tread , So what if I want to try something new and share it with the good peeps I know on the farm. Yeh I put my FPOG in the Freezer whats it to you? you hating because you dont have it! If it comes out bunk so be it! on to the next one,there is more where that came from:D I like to take chances in life sometimes you win and sometime you loose why stay doing the same old shit over and ever again, either way it goes I am happy. “If you don't take risks, you'll have a wasted soul.” Been on the farm and meet a lot of good people but sorry you hit my nerve I been growing for 20years and I am always changing my grow style, and it gets better each time. If I was to still grow and harvest like I use to 20 years ago without change my bud would be shitty as hell.

Even Ed Rosenthal recommends freeze drying. The cold keeps the terpentines fresher. The freezer connected to your fridge is frost free! Meaning it has a built in evaporator that draws out all moisture! The bud dries slowly without loosing the potency you would if you are drying in above 65 degree temps.

As always much respect bro. Well said. Kind of my point as well. You will be happy bro. Good luck!

Medusa · Jun 13, 2014

Whats the reasoning of taking out of freezer a hour everyday? ON Day 3

Aladeen OG · Jun 13, 2014

the same reason you can turn your lights off for 4 hours in veg and save 3$ a month. LOL

sorry guys, i know im just giving you a hard time. i imagine freezer burned buds and cracked heads all over the base of the freezer... puff what you puff dont let anyone stop ya! i'll leave my opinions outta it though, seems GRASSROOTS ORG has a little pitchfork line for anyone not doing crazy light schedules, calling keepers before smoked, and freeze drying my weed. god i feel like im back in the 90s again. haha. sorry guys just ignore me, i'll never intend to be negative just open and honest.

can i see some of these majestic freezer "cured" nugs?

Power OG · Jun 13, 2014

Actually no you cant. We will leave it that sir. Have a nice day.
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Aladeen OG · Jun 13, 2014

ah, i'll assume it looks like whats currently at dispensaries, flash dried sounds similar.

thanks

burn4me · Jun 13, 2014

hey brother while i respect your opinion and love the fact you call out what you see as you see. potshots just isnt the way to handle yourself. and to be on such mess is just counter productive to anyone trying to step outside the box. ive not got in this because like you and so many said to each his own but come on man. well i said my piece you brothers have a nice day.

Power OG · Jun 13, 2014

Aladeen OG said:
ah, i'll assume it looks like whats currently at dispensaries, flash dried sounds similar.

thanks

"ASS"ume what you want. Lol
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burn4me · Jun 13, 2014

Medusa said:
Whats the reasoning of taking out of freezer a hour everyday? ON Day 3

for the life of me i cant find the info you seek. i know its some where in here at least lightly touched on. idk if full out info bomb was dropped on that particular part. im trying though. i think squig touched on it maybe?
my official guess (that aint worth much lol) is to thaw some to evaporate some moisture out. then back in as to not lose turps? idk if thats right but damn i tried. lol @Power OG you know an answer to this? surly someone does.

Power OG · Jun 13, 2014

im waiting on tnelz or squiggly to chime in, its a science, i just know it works and had no ill effects on trichs,terps,nuggs. your answer sounds correct but im am not 100% on that.
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