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For me doing no defol in a room will usually net me about a 1/2 lb less. I don't go crazy anymore like I used to just top 30% of the plant minus the crowns. Basically everything above the top screen or 2 screens if there is more then 2. No defol will almost always net me less then 2 lbs a light. I've done it both ways a bunch and its a pretty consistent loss on some of my strains that are leafy. Might just be my style or the way I have plants packed on the table. I also only defol once now in flower and its usually about week 4 or 5. I don't defol veg plants until I'm throwing them into flower and that's usually when I do the bottoms and most of the lower fans that will be below the screens. I messed around with it a bunch and I have never been able to hit the 2lb a light mark without pulling leaves in any of my rooms although I've gotten close.
I think a lot of this question is very strain specific.
So on the White Widow feminized I'm going to grow in the promix hp soil what would do? I know this most sound stupid but, what is top 2 screen better yet what does ,"screen," refer too? Remember I'm just a virgin when it comes to growing. Trying to pop that cherry. I'm your groupie is case that isn't obvious by now.Absolutely and room specific too. So many variables.....
So on the White Widow feminized I'm going to grow in the promix hp soil what would do? I know this most sound stupid but, what is top 2 screen better yet what does ,"screen," refer too? Remember I'm just a virgin when it comes to growing. Trying to pop that cherry. I'm your groupie is case that isn't obvious by now.
As far as screen I saw it in the post you were talking about. Being your "personal stalker" aka groupie has yielded great advice & knowledge" As far as growing I didn't know my ass from my elbow. You have been my " Yoda".Well im just a small medical grower with limited experience and dont deserve a “groupie”. Groupies usually crush on big industry leaders like @JWM2
Had to give a nudge there
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But i think the screens you are refering to are just nets placed above the plants as they stretch to hold up the buds and keep the canopy even.
As far as picking healthy leaves off there is no need with a couple of plants with some space around them. And you only need to do such things if there is a clear benefit.
I keep my bushes short for best coverage and penetration by the 600’s and leave space around them amd move and turn them frequently so i dont need to remove leaves.
When it gets too crowded in there is when its time to make sure the leaves are not laying on each other too much and trapping humidity pockets that can bring mold.
As far as yield. Dont worry about that. Just keep the plants as healthy as you can and the yield and quality will follow.
I would suggest focusing on environment amd lighting.
So on the White Widow feminized I'm going to grow in the promix hp soil what would do? I know this most sound stupid but, what is top 2 screen better yet what does ,"screen," refer too? Remember I'm just a virgin when it comes to growing. Trying to pop that cherry. I'm your groupie is case that isn't obvious by now.
Thank you bud brother. I had no idea seriously. But you are right I'm trying to start with two plants . If a lot eventually 3. "I'm not worthy".Screens, Nets, Trellis, ect all the same. Everything above the top arrow will get trimmed up to the crown (top 2 sets of leaves) when they are done stretching. Everything below the bottom arrow gets removed. Every strain is different tho. Some of my other plants get 3-4 screens since they don't support themselves worth a shit or stretch a ton and those get a different approach. This is one of those strains I will usually selectively pull some leaves out of the middle sweet spot since it's a leafy plant. Just takes experience with a particular strain. First run on new strains I usually don't defol at all just to see what they do and how they grow.
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Numbers don't matter. We all start somewhere. You are already in a percentile since you decided to grow your own. Thumbs up.Thank you bud brother. I had no idea seriously. But you are right I'm trying to start with two plants . If a lot eventually 3. "I'm not worthy".
Thanks " bud". The problem is I realized I was able to treat my pain get off 60mg Morphine every 4hrs. But the prices not to mention quality differ greatly from med. dispensaries .Numbers don't matter. We all start somewhere. You are already in a percentile since you decided to grow your own. Thumbs up.
I love this story. Every time I hear it. Opiates were pushed on Americans, ole USofA and big pharma,reducing the population while getting rich off of death. A win win for our government.(meaning control of minds) see where the word comes from. Cannabis to fight the corrupt system that people actully vote for a person to rule them. Democracy, as stated by a great mind, is two wolves and a lamb arguing over what to eat for dinner.Thanks " bud". The problem is I realized I was able to treat my pain get off 60mg Morphine every 4hrs. But the prices not to mention quality differ greatly from med. dispensaries .
It definitely helps out your yield for sure. It’s difficult to do in the beginning because of the fear of destroying your harvest. Look on Black Dog Leds website or YouTube channel. They explain it much better. Pruning in a way so all your colas are around the same height, also increases your yield. Your plants look amazing man. Great job.
I believe in removing only the leaves blocking large bud sites that block light penetration. So just a few on and around the tops is fine for me. Otherwise I like to leave the plant as is and let nature take its course. Leaves help with plant transpiration and transporting immobile micro nutrients throughout the plant.
Well if that’s the case then the buds inside the plant and down below under the canopy should be just as large and ripe as the buds on the very tops of the plant. Sadly this is not the case.
Sorry to hear about your issues are you sure its not something else??
Because how did I grow this if only the top flowers are the biggest??
Pro tip:
The flowers under the top flowers have the highest THC content.
This is how the commercial growers get the flowers tested for THC content. Its not the tops its the flowers under the tops. Likely in the shade too.
That is a 1/2 gal mason jar there VVV how come all the flowers on that stem are basically the same size - they are and the whole plant all the flowers were the same size. Not sure of your point @JWM2
No - there's no evidence or science to back up your claim.
Growing in a scrog does not yield any more than growing a plant with little or no training.
I disagree completely. A properly trained plant in a scrim net or otherwise will yeild more quality flowers than a plant left untouched and fed the same reg. Under same light. Do you think these techniques just came about and stayed around because they don’t work. On the contrary. Most plants need pruning and training to grow to their Optimal potential. Shoot without training most grape varieties wouldn’t produce enough to sqeeze juice.
Another thing I wonder about somewhat pertaining to the thread topic. Keep in mind I'm not referring to leaves specifically, more pruning defoliation.
In the week leading up to flip, I prune up every node and snip off any branches/stems that I don't think have a chance of seeing the light in my tightly packed scroggish type room. From mid week two to mid week three, the plants are obviously unrecognizable. So I repeat the prune job. My concern is by doing this, even though still early in flower- while removing stuff what will be trash and in theory transferring energy, I'm stressing the plant too much. Thoughts?
if that's the result of heavy defoil, I'll stick to light defoil any day man. That doesn't look the best sorry bro.View attachment 893223this is the result of heavy defoliation
I disagree completely. A properly trained plant in a scrim net or otherwise will yeild more quality flowers than a plant left untouched and fed the same reg. Under same light. Do you think these techniques just came about and stayed around because they don’t work. On the contrary. Most plants need pruning and training to grow to their Optimal potential. Shoot without training most grape varieties wouldn’t produce enough to sqeeze juice.