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You probably got a bacterial infection and over fed. Are the fungus gnats wreaking havok? Get some Atak,water with and spray with transport and I bet they snap out of it. May take a week or two but you will see improvements fastHappy 420 everyone.. I think I got the virus.. purple stressed stems stunted plants mosaic viruse pattern half yellow and hooked leaves spots on leaves resemble cal mad def, , Got a GG4 a year ago and all yields dropped 50 % Now BB of 20 years AK of 10 years now Infected they all have to go. Not going to put up with this . here is a link with what my leaves look like.
http://www.ilovegrowinginvalid.com/tobacco-mosaic-virus-marijuana/
I remember this exact post back in the day. Overgrow right? And dudding can most certainly be passed to seed. I had so called Cold Creek Kush from THSeeds d the dud thing from a seed run. Years ago. And I too have grown several different sources of GG#4 cut and have experienced the dud syndrome. Mystery to me. Alls I know is I don't grow Glue anymore. Not kidding. So many others to play with. I do have a great cut of Diamond Og that I hope doesnt do this shit. The mother is getting purple at the top. Slower (but not super slow) to for the 3 gallon pot of coco to dry out compared to the rest of my moms. But the cuts root FAST and vigourous. I dont know. Its frikin fire and I want it to stay that way. Just read this whole frikin thread damn near and its scary. Some say nematodes. Some say fusarium or pythium. Some say broad or russets. Some say tmv. Some even say simple ass fungus frikin gnats..Wtf? Iam as baffled as all of you. Seems to affect og and/or sour dubb based gear. Does anyone experience dudding on no og/lanky kush gear? Like sativa stuff? Dream or off the wall under the radar sattys? Just the Glue/og based shit. Its like riding the crest of a wave or razors edge between pure hell flame og based fire and it all crashing and going into hemp mode - FAST. Not even a middle ground. And its depressing for me and my patients. But anyways...I remember Oldtimer and Vic High back in the day talking about this "dudding" phenomenon before ANYONE called it dudding. Scary as fuk.Time 03:33, 14 Feb 1999
From oldtimer1
stonerg This is not an exact science put three gardeners together and they will all disagree
on points. Here is one:- blueberry out of fifteen different females grown by me the finish
time was 7.5 to 10 weeks the bulk at 9 weeks. Part of this is my concept of what a
finished plant is and part the particular environment I grow in. I have made hundreds of
crosses and grown them out and I still occasionally get taken by surprise. But would go
with Vic that the finish time of a cross generally falls between the two parent lines but not
invariably. If you have any equatorial or tropical in the cross sometimes the combination
gives you a much longer finish time than either of the parents. I think the general rule will
apply to you!
Trelway alternate phyllotaxy is where the leaves start to come alternately on the main stem
and side branches as the plant reaches adulthood and alternate branching, the branches
that grow out from these alternate leaf nodes.As far as cuttings are concerned it is
worth keeping a couple of each plant some of my best yielders started with slightly
distorted leaves and some discolouration.
Vic I now have a suspicion that it is a virus carried through the seed that causes this
problem have you seen this mentioned anywhere else? I know that it is not supposed to be
possible with seed but I managed to transmit the prob to another type of mum in a stoned
aberration of forgetting to sterilise my snips just once between mums!!!!
All the best Ot1
Your just paranoid and over thinking this lolI wish we could take a poll: How many people with duded plants smoke or have smoked cigarettes? Does anyone in your house smoke cigarettes? Do any workers you employ to work on the garden smoke cigarettes? Did the person who sold the clone smoke cigarettes? Did the person who sold that person the clone smoke cigarettes?
Seeing the problem with TMV is that most cigs are infected with it; and tobacco has been modified for resistance to TMV but it still caries the disease and smoking it or handling it at all spreads that onto your person/clothes and therefore your plants (eventually).
I agreeThere is no proof that TMV can infect cannabis. It's a DNA specific virus.
I had a long talk with a plant pathologist the other day and she believes that tmv has different forms and have morphed to be able to infect cannabis. A deep rna sequencing and greenhouse study needs to be preformed to know for Sure. The only problem is it would cost thousands to perform the tests. It would be invaluable to the cannabis community though.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunn-hemp_mosaic_virus this virus does infect hemp and cannabis as well and is related to mosaic.
I had a long talk with a plant pathologist the other day and she believes that tmv has different forms and have morphed to be able to infect cannabis. A deep rna sequencing and greenhouse study needs to be preformed to know for Sure. The only problem is it would cost thousands to perform the tests. It would be invaluable to the cannabis community though.
I'll donate $20, anyone else in? Maybe we can get some grower-funded research done?A deep rna sequencing and greenhouse study needs to be preformed to know for Sure. The only problem is it would cost thousands to perform the tests. It would be invaluable to the cannabis community though.
That' not a bad idea. Just another 9,980 to go! Im sure research like this will get better and better as time goes on. Im from washington and i could only find one place in cali to even accept my cannabis tissues. They were a big help though!Yep, but scientists don't have all the info on cannabis yet since it's been banned for so long. This plant don't follow all the rules.
I'll donate $20, anyone else in? Maybe we can get some grower-funded research done?
Iam suprised that with big legal grows in the states that allow it that this hasnt been done yet. Or maybe it has and the ops arent making the findings public to squash competition? And let the mysterious "dudding syndrome" continue its wallet draining course. Hell..I dont know.I had a long talk with a plant pathologist the other day and she believes that tmv has different forms and have morphed to be able to infect cannabis. A deep rna sequencing and greenhouse study needs to be preformed to know for Sure. The only problem is it would cost thousands to perform the tests. It would be invaluable to the cannabis community though.
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