First Time Grow, looking to do it right.

workngrow · Jun 18, 2021

Aqua Man said:
I just dont risk it. It's probably OK but probably can lead to disappointment

Yea my only disappointment thus far is the 1 plant just owning shit and the other 3 barely if at all showing any pistils.

Im really noticing the genetic stuff at this point. I have 2 plants, allegedly same strain right next to each other but one looks largely sativa and is exploding in growth/pistils, etc. while the one right next to it again supposed to be the same strain is short, squat, growing slower and has big wide fan leaves more like an indica plant. I know not all seeds are going to generate the exact ideal characteristics of a given strain but looking at them you wouldnt think they were the same. This is the Darth Vader OG from Exotic Genetics.

ComfortablyNumb · Jun 18, 2021

workngrow said:
Alrighty, was taking a look at the setup at lights out the other night and noticed some, did cover them but obv duct tape is a bit too translucent, it doesnt contain it well enough to block completely. The tents still super dark but was curious as to how impactful.

Some say that it must be ZERO light, but that is silly. Think of how bright it is outside with the moon at full. They can handle at least that much.
I might cover up the small indicators also, especially the newer ones because the new led indicators are so much brighter than the old ones.
I have all mine above the light bar where they don't affect the plants.

Bongholio · Jun 18, 2021

Unless a strain has been worked for years and years most will throw diff. pheno's. What you want to do is a little home work and look into the lineage of Darth Vader OG and see which pheno your looking for. Or do a pheno hunt yourself by taking clones off the plants so after you've enjoyed your harvest you know what to expect from the clones.

workngrow said:
Yea my only disappointment thus far is the 1 plant just owning shit and the other 3 barely if at all showing any pistils.

Im really noticing the genetic stuff at this point. I have 2 plants, allegedly same strain right next to each other but one looks largely sativa and is exploding in growth/pistils, etc. while the one right next to it again supposed to be the same strain is short, squat, growing slower and has big wide fan leaves more like an indica plant. I know not all seeds are going to generate the exact ideal characteristics of a given strain but looking at them you wouldnt think they were the same. This is the Darth Vader OG from Exotic Genetics.

workngrow · Jun 18, 2021

Bongholio said:
Unless a strain has been worked for years and years most will throw diff. pheno's. What you want to do is a little home work and look into the lineage of Darth Vader OG and see which pheno your looking for. Or do a pheno hunt yourself by taking clones off the plants so after you've enjoyed your harvest you know what to expect from the clones.

Yea that sounds about what I was thinking. Will likely go with the exploding sativa leaning variety even though if the seed bank is classing it as leaning 75% Indica, the more indica appearing plant seems to be what the breeder was looking for in this hybrid.

Is there some sort of lab/dna test that will actually tell you what the indica/sativa percentages are?

ComfortablyNumb · Jun 18, 2021

workngrow said:
Is there some sort of lab/dna test that will actually tell you what the indica/sativa percentages are?

Yeah, Labs do that. Look up a local marijane testing lab in your area.

ComfortablyNumb · Jun 19, 2021

ComfortablyNumb said:
Yeah, Labs do that. Look up a local marijane testing lab in your area.

From what I hear, it's not cheap. I always go with seeds, never clones. I don't want someone elses hidden minefields.
So, I always deal with a quality supplier just for these reasons. I'm not going to mess up a friendship over a failed plant.

workngrow · Jun 19, 2021

ComfortablyNumb said:
From what I hear, it's not cheap. I always go with seeds, never clones. I don't want someone elses hidden minefields.
So, I always deal with a quality supplier just for these reasons. I'm not going to mess up a friendship over a failed plant.

Yea moving forward it should be easier to pinpoint. Also if getting seeds important to not do a minimal run I suppose and making sure to pick the ones that represent what the final product should be. Just seems a lot more difficult to do that at the early stages of the plants life than the later stages.

workngrow · Jun 19, 2021

The next run I am looking to fire up in the coming weeks but choosing which seed bank and/or which company, there are just a lot.

I want to mess with Future 1 from Anesia because of the alleged super high THC but they dont ship directly to the US and I am concerned about buying 2nd hand from a seed bank in the states.

Bongholio · Jun 19, 2021

workngrow said:
Yea moving forward it should be easier to pinpoint. Also if getting seeds important to not do a minimal run I suppose and making sure to pick the ones that represent what the final product should be. Just seems a lot more difficult to do that at the early stages of the plants life than the later stages.

That's why you take clones early in veg. If you find a keeper you like after harvest, you have kept it alive from your own stock. The other clones can be trashed or whatever you decide to do with them. Because you may pop another 100 seeds before you run across that 1 keeper. Kakalak at soaknbeans is a breeder in the US. that You can deal with direct. He's the real deal. All his stuff is fire.. I grew some Gumrilla that nobody wants to smoke its so strong.

ComfortablyNumb · Jun 19, 2021

workngrow said:
The next run I am looking to fire up in the coming weeks but choosing which seed bank and/or which company, there are just a lot.

I want to mess with Future 1 from Anesia because of the alleged super high THC but they dont ship directly to the US and I am concerned about buying 2nd hand from a seed bank in the states.

There are seed banks all over now. Try www.chitownseeds.com He is in Chicago.

workngrow · Jun 27, 2021

Flushed system, eased in a bit more bloom nutes on top. PH - 5.7, TDS - 605

Looks like I am starting to develop that sticky icky. Trichomes everywhere, week 2.

workngrow · Jun 30, 2021

Seems to be progressing nicely.

workngrow · Jul 1, 2021

Say hi to bob. Found Bob in the grow room so I put him in the tent. Now he's Bob the enforcer.

workngrow · Jul 1, 2021

Went ahead and pulled some clones and try to reveg them. Soaked some rockwool and pulled out some clonex gel. Trimmed a couple lower stems and divided them up. Watched a video on monster cropping. Figured I'd give it a shot.

Nute top off as well. Lowered the percentage of the 1 2 3 formula and increased the bloom to 75 pct because it's just a top off and I want to get more bloom involved. They seem to be killing off about 400ppm per week right now and at least a few gallons of water per day. Target ppm is 600ish Will check after it's circulated for a while. If all is well will then back down the 3 2 1 percentage a bit more and run it in conjunction with the bloom nutrient at 100 pct next feed top off. This again trying to satisfy the needs of all 4 plants at their different stages of flowering for now by not killing off all the nitrogen etc for the sake of increasing the phosphorus but find a happy medium and ease into the increased phos.

And then there's our new friend Bob running local security.

workngrow · Jul 16, 2021

@Aqua Man Plants coming in well, as we're coming to the final weeks in the next 4-6 weeks. Do I really need to use the Jacks Finisher or just go with a clean water flush for the final week or 2? I've been reading that most posts etc seems to say just clean water. Any recommendation on that?

Aqua Man · Jul 16, 2021

workngrow said:
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@Aqua Man Plants coming in well, as we're coming to the final weeks in the next 4-6 weeks. Do I really need to use the Jacks Finisher or just go with a clean water flush for the final week or 2? I've been reading that most posts etc seems to say just clean water. Any recommendation on that?

I just lower ppm after swelling. Under 300 for the last week to 10 days and has worked well for me.

Aqua Man · Jul 16, 2021

Plants are looking great btw

ComfortablyNumb · Jul 16, 2021

workngrow said:
@Aqua Man Plants coming in well, as we're coming to the final weeks in the next 4-6 weeks. Do I really need to use the Jacks Finisher or just go with a clean water flush for the final week or 2? I've been reading that most posts etc seems to say just clean water. Any recommendation on that?

That is some really fine looking salad man. Well done.

workngrow · Jul 16, 2021

Aqua Man said:
Plants are looking great btw

Excellent and thanks, as I am coming closer just kind of getting things together for finishing, drying, curing etc.

The plants definitely turning out better than expected. The mantis died though, rip Bob. Not sure if he just couldnt survive in the tent or if there are just no bugs for him to feed on in there. lol

workngrow · Jul 16, 2021

Also I should add, 4 of the 10 revegged clones rooted. So starting the journey on those a bit. Once they get going and these wrap up then itll be time to run another thread I suppose.

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