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Yup that’s what I’d did. Still learning.It seems several listened to him explaining Brix and went out and purchased a meter. I believe Doc said 14 percent sugar content is what you are shooting for but 12 and above is really good.
I am just going off of personal experience but if we take a look at an average summer fruiting tree and a cannabis plant I doubt they will have the same Brix in the leaves. After about say week 6 of 12/12 with a cannabis plant the actually fan leaves start looking worse than the beginning of flower. Where as the summer fruit tree. Say a plum or a peach still look decent. It will be interesting to see what you find!Yup that’s what I’d did. Still learning.
reading up on it now. Could even be higher than 12. Goes up closer you are to harvest if you do it right.
Lots of info out there on melons and grapes, less solid info on cannabis. Still looking.
Both of them are I guess, I ran the Gelato the last time and screwed her up then too I keep thinking I'm giving them enough but I guess not. I've another run with these in clones at about 1 month old from the flowering moma's I don't give them a lot of food in veg then when its flower time I seem to run out of time to bump up the nutes before I see yellow. They got a full feed yesterday of 5/5/10/1-1/4 tsp / Kool Bloom/ 1 ml Floralicious, 2 ml ph up............ I used to feed as high as 10/10/15..... but the farm here persuaded me to cut back on nutes......lol........I'll get it yet.....I still have time.... a few more years I'll have this grow thing down...lolI am pretty sure I know what is happening based on the cultivars. GG4i is a known heavy feeder. While GSC is a known PITA. Up the feeding on the back oned
May have missed it but what were your brix #s?Both of them are I guess, I ran the Gelato the last time and screwed her up then too I keep thinking I'm giving them enough but I guess not. I've another run with these in clones at about 1 month old from the flowering moma's I don't give them a lot of food in veg then when its flower time I seem to run out of time to bump up the nutes before I see yellow. They got a full feed yesterday of 5/5/10/1-1/4 tsp / Kool Bloom/ 1 ml Floralicious, 2 ml ph up............ I used to feed as high as 10/10/15..... but the farm here persuaded me to cut back on nutes......lol........I'll get it yet.....I still have time.... a few more years I'll have this grow thing down...lol
Hey I mean no harm here but I would not trust a single thing from a magazine article. A specialty magazine is about as worse at it gets. I have dealt with this in the past. Good luck with our grows!!!good explanation here for newbskis like mwah
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"Conclusion
Brix is an easy method of understanding how your plants are performing during the grow. Brix gives the grower an indication of how healthy or unhealthy the plant is. It allows growers to get a glimpse into the future of the plant’s lifecycle. It is important to have your brix level at 12 to ensure the plant is poised for a good yield. By adding supplements to the watering schedule, the plant can easily go above a brix level of 20 — the most desired level on the cannabis market.
By using a simple brix refractometer, growers can expect the heaviest and tastiest buds they have ever produced."
Zero taken at all and I trust your experience more than a random article. I wish I knew what parts of it are hogwash though. It seemed to be saying what I thought you all were. Basically I took it as it can be used to measure the health of your plant, it changes as the plant matures, and a reading of 10-12+ before harvest is something to strive for. I checked the cannabis grow bible and surprisingly there is no info. It is a very easy tool to use and I'd like to learn as much as can about it.Hey I mean no harm here but I would not trust a single thing from a magazine article. A specialty magazine is about as worse at it gets. I have dealt with this in the past. Good luck with our grows!!!
I have to be honest.Once I read where it came from I posted that response. I will read it tomorrow and repost.Zero taken at all and I trust your experience more than a random article. I wish I knew what parts of it are hogwash though. It seemed to be saying what I thought you all were. Basically I took it as it can be used to measure the health of your plant, it changes as the plant matures, and a reading of 10-12+ before harvest is something to strive for. I checked the cannabis grow bible and surprisingly there is no info. It is a very easy tool to use and I'd like to learn as much as can about it.
It was backwards of my visual observations..the front plants have a brix of 7%..the back plants 10% and they look in the worst shape, The healthiest girls up from have a lower brix than those in the back,,,that confuses me.May have missed it but what were your brix #s?
Well I read the article and a second one at the bottom of the first article was a link to a second article. Both had different percentages for healthy Brix with the second one having it at 12 percent and the first 20 plus. Also they mentioned adding sugars to your nutrient mix to increase the sugars in the plant. My understanding is the cannabis plant cannot uptake sugar. So if my understand is correct than I would probably consider the remainder of the information to be generally lacking in accuracy. They really did not go into what specifically can raise the Brix. Just generalities as if they either know and did not want to say too much or they are just as clueless as the rest of us.I have to be honest.Once I read where it came from I posted that response. I will read it tomorrow and repost.
Roger that and sorry to anyone whom felt I was posting it for its accuracy. As someone who had just received one, I did however find their basic explanation easy to grasp. I also raised an eyebrow at the 20-30 and always take everything I read with a grain of salt.Well I read the article and a second one at the bottom of the first article was a link to a second article. Both had different percentages for healthy Brix with the second one having it at 12 percent and the first 20 plus. Also they mentioned adding sugars to your nutrient mix to increase the sugars in the plant. My understanding is the cannabis plant cannot uptake sugar. So if my understand is correct than I would probably consider the remainder of the information to be generally lacking in accuracy. They really did not go into what specifically can raise the Brix. Just generalities as if they either know and did not want to say too much or they are just as clueless as the rest of us.
if my memory serves me correct Dr. Green said this is just another tool to determine the overall health of the plant and in the first article they stated Brix in the 20 to 30 percent. To me that sound really high. I looked up the Brix of fruit juices and I got OJ at 11 and passion fruit at 15 percent. To me that discredits any idea of a leaf Brix of 20 to 30 percent. I do not believe the information in the article is accurate.
Man you can post whatever you want on my thread. We can figure this out together.Roger that and sorry to anyone whom felt I was posting it for its accuracy. As someone who had just received one, I did however find their basic explanation easy to grasp. I also raised an eyebrow at the 20-30 and always take everything I read with a grain of salt.
I did a couple of searches on how to increase brix% in cannabis....... didn't really explain much other than more nitrogen in veg and lower nitrogen going into flower with higher phosphorus in flower...if I read it all right.....>Man you can post whatever you want on my thread. We can figure this out together.
I just posted this on gnick’s thread cause he has a deep deep palate of music, but here is the vinyl I got picked out for phase 2 of this harvest. Gotta get busy!
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Eclectic tastes all are welcome.
I appreciate you logging your data. I’ll do the same and see what we can learn together. I’ll be starting this fog system with 8 fem seeds shortly and I’ll track them thru the process. Using a separate feed system for each tub means I can vary nutes and lights and do side by sides to see what does what with this brix stuff.I did a couple of searches on how to increase brix% in cannabis....... didn't really explain much other than more nitrogen in veg and lower nitrogen going into flower with higher phosphorus in flower...if I read it all right.....>
I just follow a recipe but I'll try dropping a ml nitrogen week 1 of flower and increase 1 ml phosphorus while in flower.....I've been feeding 5/5/5 / gal in veg until I up the Potassium to 10 ml at 3 weeks in flower.......so it means 4/6/5/ gal the first 2 weeks up until flower then 4/6/10 3rd week of flower - ????/
Moe just be aware research subjects like this for cannabis are difficult. I have found when researching a subject matter such at this one. First be sure to look at the Website Address before even going to the website. In my experience about half to 2/3 fo the links will be to websites either supported or owned by large liquid cannabis nutrient companies. In the first article from Min Yield the author stated to use sugar in nutrient solution to increase Brix. We know that cannabis cannot uptake sugar. But we also know that about all of these nutrient companies sell a sweetener product. The challenge is caused by the publication being in a position where they have to offer up articles for the consumer but they also have to write articles pleasing to the companies advertising in their publication. The first article in Min Yield was wrote by a person with a MS in plants. I find it extremely unlikely that someone with an MS in plants does not know what are and are not up taken by plants.I appreciate you logging your data. I’ll do the same and see what we can learn together. I’ll be starting this fog system with 8 fem seeds shortly and I’ll track them thru the process. Using a separate feed system for each tub means I can vary nutes and lights and do side by sides to see what does what with this brix stuff.
The whole thing seems very high end winemakey to me and I want to learn how to be a weed sommelier in the garden. I rely a lot on data because I will never have the experience you have. I don’t have enough years left in me to catch up.
And I’m a geek.
Hey you’ll appreciate this I’m down over 70 pounds from my high weight. I know you use metric so that’s 2000 boxes of Tim horton’s donuts to you.
At the rate I am losing weight in about a year and a half I’ll just vanish.
Understood.Moe just be aware research subjects like this for cannabis are difficult. I have found when researching a subject matter such at this one. First be sure to look at the Website Address before even going to the website. In my experience about half to 2/3 fo the links will be to websites either supported or owned by large liquid cannabis nutrient companies. In the first article from Min Yield the author stated to use sugar in nutrient solution to increase Brix. We know that cannabis cannot uptake sugar. But we also know that about all of these nutrient companies sell a sweetener product. The challenge is caused by the publication being in a position where they have to offer up articles for the consumer but they also have to write articles pleasing to the companies advertising in their publication. The first article in Min Yield was wrote by a person with a MS in plants. I find it extremely unlikely that someone with an MS in plants does not know what are and are not up taken by plants.
Nice ! Bet ya feel better and more energyI appreciate you logging your data. I’ll do the same and see what we can learn together. I’ll be starting this fog system with 8 fem seeds shortly and I’ll track them thru the process. Using a separate feed system for each tub means I can vary nutes and lights and do side by sides to see what does what with this brix stuff.
The whole thing seems very high end winemakey to me and I want to learn how to be a weed sommelier in the garden. I rely a lot on data because I will never have the experience you have. I don’t have enough years left in me to catch up.
And I’m a geek.
Hey you’ll appreciate this I’m down over 70 pounds from my high weight. I know you use metric so that’s 2000 boxes of Tim horton’s donuts to you.
At the rate I am losing weight in about a year and a half I’ll just vanish.
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