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That's because the metrics are all over the place, the equipment used for the testing said parameters is biased to meet their claims.True but it does show that most led lamps are not as efficient as the sales pitch. And that more efficiency than hps cost up to 6 times as much money up front.
thats true, but CMH is still HID and its still older tech and will eventually be phased out entirelyThat exact same claim could be made with ceramic metal halide to high pressure sodium.
It's not exclusive to led.
Its simply how our own technology is progressing
That's because the metrics are all over the place, the equipment used for the testing said parameters is biased to meet their claims.
thats true, but CMH is still HID and its still older tech and will eventually be phased out entirely
He is advertising for his company.This would be a good one, trying to find efficiency tests he did on a bunch of different types of lights.
true, and perhaps phased out entirely is a stretch, but theyre certainly going to be losing a large portion of the market share over the next decade.Guitar amps are still sold with vacuum tubes because musicians like them better than digital amps.
i just cant look past the fact that good LED's are matching and even beating the output of HID with half the watts.
He is advertising for his company.
The only problem with that is it's one of the big 3 as far as plant growth, is more importants than any nutrients, training or such things as most gardeners think matter!I can, for the exact same reason I havent bought a Tesla yet. Yeah they're going to save you money operating it, but they're too expensive to buy at the moment. And quite frankly, I'm happy with my truck.
I'm with Aqua Man, I'm burned out on this subject and just dont really care enough about it.
Use whatever lighting yall want. There are far more important and interesting variables to discuss about cultivation.
His company is in third slot, I know sales, it has supported me and mine for 25 years, it is a gimmick. Oh, yes I have been growing weed for 4 years, been growing a lot of other things for 21 years, I believe someone here even said, "the only difference between cannabis and other plants is its extreme photoperiod, otherwise it is pretty much any other plant", it is not an exact quote, still it is to the point. I am not stirring the pot when I take a stand and stick to what I have said, I have backed with facts, that have been ignored, maybe all you have to do is take a look at yourself.View attachment 882736
How the hell do you figure he's advertising his company? In the test he is not on top of the efficiency! I try and show some useful information with actual science and efficiency formulas and you need to get past the part of it being done by I person who has LED lights of his own and look at the useful information about what lights are more efficient and which ones are showing the best output for the buck and use that to make your conclusion of where LED's are at compared to others.
I'm sorry dude but all you want to do is stir the pot here. For someone who has been growing for what, a whole 4 years, you are still wet behind the ears and should be paying attention instead of dissing on everything everyone else posts.
Do you know how the par meter was calibrated? Does it show the weighted spectral output? Par is all a general range from 400-700nmView attachment 882736
How the hell do you figure he's advertising his company? In the test he is not on top of the efficiency! I try and show some useful information with actual science and efficiency formulas and you need to get past the part of it being done by I person who has LED lights of his own and look at the useful information about what lights are more efficient and which ones are showing the best output for the buck and use that to make your conclusion of where LED's are at compared to others.
I'm sorry dude but all you want to do is stir the pot here. For someone who has been growing for what, a whole 4 years, you are still wet behind the ears and should be paying attention instead of dissing on everything everyone else posts.
He was testing efficiency. I trust his equipment was calibrated the same for each light. If you don't think that the information is any good then disregard it!Do you know how the par meter was calibrated? Does it show the weighted spectral output? Par is all a general range from 400-700nm
The only problem with that is it's one of the big 3 as far as plant growth, is more importants than any nutrients, training or such things as most gardeners think matter!
From someone who is neutral on the subject I say each side is shitting on the other. HID guys bashing LED and vice versa.This seriously has to be the most annoying "debate" ever.
Ffs, LED is more efficient and longer lasting, it's better technology, I get that. But the LED fanboys are just cramming it down our throats and shitting all over HID, It reminds me of a cult.. Join us or you will burn in hell...
I like my dirty old HID, and It works for me in my situation. When boards drop in price I might switch over and play along, but not until then, and not before my ballasts are toast. I like my HID.. I like LED too.. Sorry if that makes your head explode. But you're gonna have to deal with it.
I'm sure you do grow top shelf and I'm not here to argue over what lighting you choose to grow with. That's what good growers do!Of course light is important, obviously. But realistically, and not to toot my own horn here but I already grow pot better than most people I know with my crusty old obsolete HID's. Do I pay I bit more for power, sure... but do I give AF? No..
My pot is already top shelf, any difference I would see from going with LED would be marginal at best, and I would have to completely rework my other environmental controls due to the lack of heat I rely on..
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