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Stella.artoisIt does? Please list a few brands of AAA produced by Coors and Budweiser. Please don't list shock top or blue moon. That's AAA marketing no AAA product.
outwest
Stella.artoisIt does? Please list a few brands of AAA produced by Coors and Budweiser. Please don't list shock top or blue moon. That's AAA marketing no AAA product.
outwest
Anyones taste in beer isn't the point. If you think for a second any major brewery couldn't replicate ANY micro brew made you are crazy. The money just isn't there for them to care. They don't think in millions they think in billions. the micro breweries have found a nice niche market for themselves but they also know the limits of what they can charge. If you can pick up a six pack of shock tops for x amount you might be willing to pay twice that much for the beer you want, but would you pay 100 times as much? hydroponic production facilities could easily produce really good product at an incedibly low price. Not to mention the ability they would have to crank out concentrates from every last scrap. Pre rolls with hash crumbles added for 6 bucks a pack, or 60 bucks an eighth that you can roll into a couple joints. And for the record I would like to say sorry if I offended any beer drinkers with my comments. I dont drink so I didn't know shock top wasn't great beer! I just see my beer snob friends drinking it from time to time but have been informed today that it was good but not great. It all tastes like hot garbage to me!It does? Please list a few brands of AAA produced by Coors and Budweiser. Please don't list shock top or blue moon. That's AAA marketing no AAA product.
outwest
The ideal economic models are great, people were pulling those out in the 70s when Carter was presdent. What happened? Reagan. There are tons of variables and annomilies. Culture is a big one, so is politics.
This was always going to happen. Stuff that grows out of the ground can't be super duper expensive forever.
"Recreational" legislation is the death knell for this type of economical situation for growers. When we're talking mass production in a perfectly competetive market whoever controls overhead and optimizes is the winner.
The consumer is ultimately the winner in this model. This model grows organically from the consumer in a capitalistic economy, because as we all know the customer is king. Quality is important, but price is no slouch.
Perfectly competitive markets (which anything plant based falls into, especially primary plant goods requiring no processing) have extremely thin profit margins by the time all is said and done--so you're absolutely right this will price basement growers out of the market. For the same reason factory farms are the norm in our country versus our old-timey conceptions of farmers.
However, growing your own supply will still be worth it.
The question is a simple one, which is better?
A. Having the freedom to decide what goes in your body, and removing a totally harmless drug from the black market (a place inhabited by some pretty seedy folks--and a market which helps to fuel mass murder and terror south of our border).
OR
B. Being able to make money in a sole proprietorship that grows marijuana.
You can't have them both. It's a catch-22. Bootleggers and moonshiners had to deal with the same economic situation when prohibition ended. They were utterly crushed by big business.
The same thing will happen here, but the truth is that you've only been able to make money doing this in a sole proprietorship up to this point because the wrong thing was done a long time (i.e. marijuana was made illegal). Is it more wrong to keep that wrong thing the same, or to put the proponents of overturning it at an immediate economic disadvantage once it's righted? It's a sad tale because many of the cultivators are the guys who pushed this legislation and these viewpoints through--not realizing they were putting the nail in their own coffin in so doing.
A bunch got busted in cali today. I dunno what it is they have against cali..
Once upon a time, in a time not far away, Fat Tire was DELICIOUS beer. Ever since New Belgium stepped up production, Fat Tire turned to commercial garbageAnyones taste in beer isn't the point. If you think for a second any major brewery couldn't replicate ANY micro brew made you are crazy
It totally amazes me that with all the regulations they are putting up around medicinal/recreational, they don't care what they spray or feed their plants.
I think you guys under estimate how easy quaility bud could be mass produced. If you set up rooms perfect, Have workers doing certin jobs for each room, One guy controls and monitors enviroment, one guy in charge of prunning, one guy mixes tanks and waters, Head guy makes charts for what needs to be done when, Ect. You get 4-5 guys that are good and some labor to get rooms tour down trimmed and planted ect and A very large grow could produce high quailty no problem. The good growers are going to step up into these jobs or start there own companys, everyone else will get priced out of the market. Most will give up when they cant get $1000 lb and they cant grow as good of weed that comes out of the warehouses.
I dont think compairing weed growing to brewing is fair, Its totally different, once the big companys have a said cut, Like say White fire, and they can grow decent, there WiFi they mass produce is going to be just as good if not better after they have it dailed in and quaility isnt going to go down when they go from running it in a 200 light room to running it in a 2000 light room. Weed is such a fast turn around they will figure shit out and solve problems in a matter of cycles, In one year they should have a warehous dailed in Or they not running shit right. They also have a huge labor market of greenhouse growers , veggie growers, flowers, ornimental horticulture, farmers, ect They dont even need pot growers to run shit, and most likely wont even want most of us. What im going to do walk in with no job history, no college education, tats down my arms, long hair and tell them I grow the best weed pay me $100,000 a year. lol even if they wanted me they wont pay much and if they do theyll get rid of you after you set them up. Most of us will be gone unless you can get your foot in the door and open your own business and keep up.
And then there are still growers in BC...I'm with Texas Kid on this one; it will take them 2-3 years to figure out how to grow dank weed in big spaces, just like it did in BC, and here in Colorado.
Other than that, I agree with pretty much every word you wrote here.
well put, I think everyone is vastly underestimating the abilities of corporate farmers. the warehouse grows we see around today won't be able to compete, imagine someone trying to make a living with 6 thousand watts in their basement. Invest the money you can make now . The majority of growers I've met spend all their money on toys and bullshit they don't need. they live cycle to cycle and never think years into the future. maybe this biz will last another 20 years but you would be foolish not to plan like it could end tomorrow.I think you guys under estimate how easy quaility bud could be mass produced. If you set up rooms perfect, Have workers doing certin jobs for each room, One guy controls and monitors enviroment, one guy in charge of prunning, one guy mixes tanks and waters, Head guy makes charts for what needs to be done when, Ect. You get 4-5 guys that are good and some labor to get rooms tour down trimmed and planted ect and A very large grow could produce high quailty no problem. The good growers are going to step up into these jobs or start there own companys, everyone else will get priced out of the market. Most will give up when they cant get $1000 lb and they cant grow as good of weed that comes out of the warehouses.
I dont think compairing weed growing to brewing is fair, Its totally different, once the big companys have a said cut, Like say White fire, and they can grow decent, there WiFi they mass produce is going to be just as good if not better after they have it dailed in and quaility isnt going to go down when they go from running it in a 200 light room to running it in a 2000 light room. Weed is such a fast turn around they will figure shit out and solve problems in a matter of cycles, In one year they should have a warehous dailed in Or they not running shit right. They also have a huge labor market of greenhouse growers , veggie growers, flowers, ornimental horticulture, farmers, ect They dont even need pot growers to run shit, and most likely wont even want most of us. What im going to do walk in with no job history, no college education, tats down my arms, long hair and tell them I grow the best weed pay me $100,000 a year. lol even if they wanted me they wont pay much and if they do theyll get rid of you after you set them up. Most of us will be gone unless you can get your foot in the door and open your own business and keep up.
I think you guys under estimate how easy quaility bud could be mass produced. If you set up rooms perfect......
Ill speak for myself ....if you think mass quality bud will be easy ask the dispensary owners who hire a new grower every other harvest