im not saying your wrong,just difrent methods,same as breeders,if you dont go by the book of how they grow and were they live,how can you go by there prediction of how long a plant takes,dig ,they grow them sevral times over,using all the best of every thing all im saying,i got t5ho,led,hid all work but not the same with my methods,why,because i dont have humidifers and de hums,i dont have co2,i dont have top line feeds,you feel me,so it really unfair to judge any of them ,be bag soils ,manufactures of feeds,light builders,hell all of them there there and in your face for money only,ive grown a 6ft tall single stretched stalk all over the place plant and still got high using reynolds wrap foil and a cfl bulb, i think way to much focus on lights,because the per sq ft thing all enjoy taking to max,cant replace the sun,and in middle of day straight up sun will melt your plants too same with the lights of the day,point to take ,i grew 4 girls 1 male,banged 2 of them and then all went outside ,rip mr male,they stood threw hurricane harvey flash floods and 65 mph winds,went threw 4 months triple digit weather,harvest time ,got my seeds from the 2,the other2 had fluffy buds outside,so thats what im getting at