Just talked to a bro who went out west on a bowling trip. He said it's not Buckwheat's fault , it's Loran's fault !!! I guess he got to the restaurant & was too stoned to read the menu after smoking some Long Bottom Leaf with Loran. Sounds like he had a great time & enjoyed visiting with Loran & his wife. Thanks to Loran he got "way too stoned " on several occasions . He was way impressed with everything he tried , but loved Lightnin , Mortimer Wang , Long Bottom Leaf & Asgard. I guess the next seeds I need to pop are Long Bottom Leaf. I have a bunch of Heathen seedlings going . They are only 8" tall & they reek already. When I brush against them while watering they stink up the entire veg room.