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At the end of the video, the maker offers 100,000 to anyone who can give him a high quality copy of a plane penetrating the south tower. nobody to date has.. just thought Id throw that out there.
For me it's very simple.
I'd rather that all of their civilians (man, woman, child) should die rather than even one of ours.
Survival of the fittest.
If there was a destroy Iran button--I'd push it happily. It'd ultimately save American lives--that's priority one for me.
For me it's very simple.
I'd rather that all of their civilians (man, woman, child) should die rather than even one of ours.
Survival of the fittest.
To put it plainly--in countries like Pakistan for instance where recently our government has said that "it's patience is wearing thin" in terms of their allowing it to be a hotbed for terrorist training, recruitment, and general activity.
To my mind both the government AND the people are complicit with this process, and that is enough to warrant blowing them all the smithereens in my opinion. If we justified an attack this way I can promise you that it'd be the last time a country wondered whether or not it's a good idea to allow hatred for America (with intent of violent action against it) to breed in their country.
To me, the silence of the citizens in these countries is as good as them being a part of the problem themselves.
A shitty shitty person. WTF. Do you read these posts you wright. I will read no posts of yours pertaining to this subject. peace.That is true--but what I said is that it's not easily hidden.
What I meant by that is that the truth isn't hidden in a youtube video.
I've been an NRA member going on 20 years now, and have been shooting since the age of 3. I'm not a bad shot at all--and I know a little about ballistics (and physics). As it goes to the JFK incident--it's not impossible, it's improbable. We don't know how well Oswald was trained, hell there's a lot we don't know.
Maybe it was a shady assassination--there were certainly plenty of people with motive to have him dead.
All I'm saying is no one is blowing the truth open on youtube--we'd be foolish to think that. Conspiracy theories are often far too elaborate to describe reality. The truth is, as I've said before, that there isn't a need for conspiracies--people who are shitheads simply know what needs to happen innately. The rich know what's good for the rich, so to speak. They don't have to have a "rich club" with rules and plots to do things that benefit the group.
Often times the people do know who each other are, and they are friends--but they, again, don't need to have some super secret society or some big overarching maniacal plan. Sometimes individual people getting together making many shitty decisions equals out to a much bigger clusterfuck than could've first been imagined.
Read up a bit on game theory for a model of this (the wiki page should do well enough).
My explanation for all of goings on behind most of the theories is that people are greedy--and at each step it made sense for a greedy person to do the thing they did. If JFK did go down under shady circumstances it probably didn't need to be a conspiracy--there was no shortage of individuals who wanted him dead.
The idea that 9.11 was a American born conspiracy is absolutely appalling to me. The rest of the stuff I can deal with--and I can't disprove. But this shit needs to have a cork put in it. 3,000 Americans died and a shitty shitty person did it, don't bail him out by blaming Bush (no matter what you think of him, I'm sure none of us can imagine what it's like to have that happen on your watch as a president).
Absolutely repugnant if you ask me.
The rest of it, speculate away, but as far as I'm concerned any American who thinks 9.11 was orchestrated by an American can get the fuck out of the country. You're unwanted.
As for the physics of the building falling and things along that line--I don't want to hear from anyone without at least a Master's in physics/structural engineering. It's a joke that anyone without such a degree would believe that they have the expertise to determine whether or not a given source on the issue is credible. I'll say that again in a different way for dramatic effect: If you are not an expert, you are not capable of properly judging the claims of an expert--yet people do it internally all the time, believing they know something which they do not. Again this goes back to people's need to understand and to explain.
Essentially, if you don't know physics--you don't know if someone else does either. For this reason I go with the 99% of all physicists who agree the circumstances were legit. I don't believe the conspiracy is a million people strong.
That is to say that almost none of you would have the foggiest idea if someone was speaking the truth to you about the physics or making the shit up on the spot.
A few people on this board have gone about convincing people that they know stuff about chemistry, by knowing just enough to sound knowledgeable--but in truth they couldn't have been spouting more nonsensical bullshit if they had been trying to (something which I was happy to point out :p ).
This brings up a relevant news article I recently read based on a study that was done, I urge you guys to give it a look see--it's a good read.
http://news.yahoo.com/people-arent-smart-enough-democracy-flourish-scientists-185601411.html
BTW he is no smarter than anyone else. Maybe just smarter at being a nerd. peaceWow squiggly, It's always easy to push a button. There is no honor in that. You make yourself sound like a punk...a bi***..I know you're young but that is not what makes a MAN. you sit in your comfy house and presume to judge others and think you are smarter than everyone else(btw you might be lol) but thats a cowards point of view. Intelligence with No Experience.
You think it's easy to destroy Iran?? lol It's not going to be like Iraq. There will be massive American Casaulties. Many lives will have to be lost and for what? So you can sit on your ass eating high fructose corn sugar and msg laden chips that will cause you to die a horrendous death fighting cancer?? It's easy to send others to die but the question is would you go and die fighting? No need to answer that i already know you won't.
For me it's very simple.
I'd rather that all of their civilians (man, woman, child) should die rather than even one of ours.
Survival of the fittest.
To put it plainly--in countries like Pakistan for instance where recently our government has said that "it's patience is wearing thin" in terms of their allowing it to be a hotbed for terrorist training, recruitment, and general activity.
To my mind both the government AND the people are complicit with this process, and that is enough to warrant blowing them all the smithereens in my opinion. If we justified an attack this way I can promise you that it'd be the last time a country wondered whether or not it's a good idea to allow hatred for America (with intent of violent action against it) to breed in their country.
To me, the silence of the citizens in these countries is as good as them being a part of the problem themselves.
As for the comparison to the British Empire, yes I realize they crashed and burned--but they pushed their OWN people too far and they stood up against them. It's literally a point and case of what countries like Pakistan, Syria, and Iran should do. They should stand up for what is right, etc.
I realize they have guns trained on them--yes, so did my seven times great grandfather back in the revolutionary war.
The Brits were likely never going to be conquered by a foreign power. Their biggest problem with us was the logistics of fighting a war across an ocean from your home base. That's what sunk them--not their dirty practices.
To me it's not dirty. Right and wrong is relative when it comes to war.
If they want to kill us, kill them. It's that easy for me.
If there was a destroy Iran button--I'd push it happily. It'd ultimately save American lives--that's priority one for me.
The beauty of not being a scientist is that I'm not bound by your rules or others lies. It's called "Living in the Wild"
You think it's easy to destroy Iran?? lol It's not going to be like Iraq. There will be massive American Casaulties. Many lives will have to be lost and for what? So you can sit on your ass eating high fructose corn sugar and msg laden chips that will cause you to die a horrendous death fighting cancer?? It's easy to send others to die but the question is would you go and die fighting? No need to answer that i already know you won't.
Wow, this is an interesting viewpoint from someone so knowledgeable, I expected much more compassion out of such a bright mind than American exceptionalism. Out of curiosity have you spent a significant amount of time abroad? If so where? From what I know it is not like an entire country of people are trained to kill American citizens. The world is filled with great people, interesting individuals and I believe no innocent civilian should suffer from the wants of a few rich men who cannot figure their differences out. I can tell you from my experience the hate(s) for America has a plethora of reasoning depending of course what part of the world you are on, I am not saying I agree with the hate, but I see it more as a natural reaction to occupation (shit we have military basses everywhere can you imagine how you would feel in China started to post military bases on our land), and maybe a natural reaction to a super power in general, this would be social science after all. Of course even if we agree on Saddam, the lack of compassion in killing civilians in order to break another countries sovereignty I will never agree with, its not only not tactical but it also does not fall under any rules of war. Global occupation has been a big part of our overall decline and what I think Obama has been effectively working on since taking office, evident in the utilization of NATO and Libya.
Also I must ask this: Do you think that Iraq would of ever been able to kill Americans had we not gone over there for war? I mean geographically we are very strategically located and we have the most powerful and technically advanced military in the world too so why would we need to protect ourselves from a desert nation by occupation and killing civilians?
Lastly, no need justify our attacks in other countries, they are abundantly obvious to the enemies and that does not make people who believe they have the right to govern their own land just want to bend over and give out their number one resource (as that is the usual reason for modern day occupations) and to my knowledge we do let them know its for lack of governmental cooperation. This only seems to breed hate as we become a tangible enemy for the youth to see and hold contempt for.
BTW he is no smarter than anyone else. Maybe just smarter at being a nerd. peace
A shitty shitty person. WTF. Do you read these posts you wright. I will read no posts of yours pertaining to this subject. peace.
Won't change a country from hating us dude....it will guarantee they hate us.
This is pretty much my exact point.
People want there to be a way to fix it. There isn't. They hate us--case closed.
Either we kill em now, or we kill em in 100-200 years.
I'd rather I do it than my great-great-great-great-great grandchildren. That's all I'm saying essentially. Hell I'd rather do it while it's easy--which is now.
I don't want to see what Iran looks like after 100 years of economic, military, and soci-political development. It's going to be ugly as fuckin sin.
Think deeply about that last sentance...you live in a country that is that...
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