Overuse of Eagle 20 and systemics makes resistant fungi

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I have a theory on this. if the "medication" is causing a mechanism in the plant then it is the plant and not the mildew that has become resistant. also because the product is only active for 28 days, there must be some kind of process that gets avoided during that time allowing for a clean finish. For example plants that are treated can focus their energy on growth, production, and building their immunity. Just like any drug the organism builds a tolerance. So maybe the plant just needs a break so next time it can get ripped!
 

Seamaiden

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I don't know, but I think that in Cali you need to be certified for pesticide use to purchase legally. There's a good reason for that, I mean, can you imagine what could happen to our agriculture of any and every one could use some of these products?
 
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I see the Eagle 20 on the shelf at the hydro shops in LA. I have found other stuff that wasn't supposed to be for CA on the shelf too. You just have to go to enough shops.

-TF
 
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seamaiden, I've read that you shouldn't use a sulphur burner when oils have been used on the plant within 30 days, or it'll burn the plant. What do you know about this?
 

Seamaiden

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Nothing, as I've never used sulfur burners. I understand that it can cause a good degree of phytotoxicity, or something that causes burning of plant tissues.
 
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I see the Eagle 20 on the shelf at the hydro shops in LA. I have found other stuff that wasn't supposed to be for CA on the shelf too. You just have to go to enough shops.

-TF

This doesn't surprise... been in several States where certain shops would carry/sell this stuff under the counter.

Even 'normal' wholesalers that have a license (& know the regs) will still turn around & sell them to other resellers. Some of these cats will even tell the retailers how to get around regs.

Much like anything in this world... if you know the right person w the right amount of cash... could likely buy a Russian suitcase nuke.
 
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I have a theory on this. if the "medication" is causing a mechanism in the plant then it is the plant and not the mildew that has become resistant. also because the product is only active for 28 days, there must be some kind of process that gets avoided during that time allowing for a clean finish. For example plants that are treated can focus their energy on growth, production, and building their immunity. Just like any drug the organism builds a tolerance. So maybe the plant just needs a break so next time it can get ripped!
bad theory!!!! it really has to do with the fact that there is no intense sunlight, wind, rain etc. to aid in the detox. this should never be used on weed period.
 
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Broski and Broskiett's i did ALL my vegn plants with eagle 20 and swear to god after is sprayed um they where all funnel leafed and happy as hell Like To Say,"Thank You Master our PM is Gone and we Love you alot ah big time lot". true story
Shits great.
 
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What about the breeding of more PM resistance stains of weed? That would seem to be the 1 2 punch. It also doesn't help that infested cuts get circulated like the mail.
 
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seamaiden, I've read that you shouldn't use a sulphur burner when oils have been used on the plant within 30 days, or it'll burn the plant. What do you know about this?
I had some plants get major fried from excessive burning of sulfur. Seems like that could easily be true with oily sprays like mighty wash or neem. And now a friend told me sulfur burners will null warranties on gear like digital ballasts. It gets sulfuric acid on chip boards and bulbs and fan motors, on and on. Gotta be careful to not over do it.

And for the record, I have seen eagle 20 fail in a run on 5 gallon dwc buckets.
 
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MEH! Neem wont hurt a plant if used right.

Eagle shouldn't even be a friggin option for somethin ya smoke...its a no brainer.......well maybe yall smoke meth n shit too I guess so it dont matter.
 
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Broski and Broskiett's i did ALL my vegn plants with eagle 20 and swear to god after is sprayed um they where all funnel leafed and happy as hell Like To Say,"Thank You Master our PM is Gone and we Love you alot ah big time lot". true story
Shits great.
word brother thats how you cure powdery mildew enuff said :rasta2:
 
i find people reach for the systemics way too quickly. not sure if eagle 20 is? but good ol azamax does the trick for me and sulfur sometimes too. havent seen PM in awhile and i live in the PNW.... humid all the time.
 
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Haters say what ever dogs, I aint got PM no more and i couldnt b happier.
Like stated MANY TIMES, AINT NO ONE MAKEN ANYONE USE IT, you dont like it, simple shit "Dont Use It" real F N EZ broski's.
 

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same shit with avid, stupid people use it as their first line of defence and control, whe it should be the last, i have 8 oz of avid i have had for years, and these fucking mites up here are super mites , because of tolerances built up buy the rookie grower who panics and hits everything with hard systemic chemicals. i am all for using the right tool for the job but try everything you can before you use the big guns!
 

Seamaiden

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Damn straight, norcal. But trying to tell people who won't listen gets us the following....
Haters say what ever dogs, I aint got PM no more and i couldnt b happier.
Like stated MANY TIMES, AINT NO ONE MAKEN ANYONE USE IT, you dont like it, simple shit "Dont Use It" real F N EZ broski's.
But see, it's just like balls of shit. It rolls "downhill", i.e. it ultimately affects everyone. Just like all other forms of pollution, it affects us all.

No need to call us "haters" (Jesus Christ, seriously?) or dogs. And even though no one's making anyone else use it, we would all love some reassurance that only those who are so free in using it are the ones SMOKING IT.
 

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