Post your favorite mid to late flower P-K booster

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cody.young11

cody.young11

I have 3 plants that went for 2 months veg while I was taking clones and popping beans to fill my space, so I schwazzed one and heavy defoliation on the other two but not quite enough to be a schwazz. They are all the same strain so I left them at different stages of defoliation all the way to the schwazzed one, I will take some pics tomorrow, as I just flipped today and my lights are off
So the results???
 
cody.young11

cody.young11

i think there is something to running a booster only during flower. ive done the multi bottle systems and never got where i wanted to be. my goal this round is to do as little as absolutely possible while having as close to 100% healthy leaves as possible. i ran a 1-1-1 for veg and they did outstanding (thats all ill ever do now), but i can tell its not enough punch for flower based on plants reaction since flip and it seemed to contribute to stretch. i recently added half strength flower fuel 1-34-32 and will just give water until the following week. happy frog soil. i'll report back in a couple weeks

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How was it?
 
visajoe1

visajoe1

How was it?
It was ok for the outdoor plants in 2019, but not ok for indoor plants earlier this year. I wouldnt read too much into the difference though, my ec meter wasnt accurate during my grow earlier this year. Pretty sure I fried my girls with the booster because of it.

I'm not sure boosters do much though, I cant really say.

I do know quality genetics and proper environment will produce the results we want.
 
growsince79

growsince79

Pk boosting causes premature yellowing, shortens flowering and potentially lessens yield.

grow ratio all the way through tapered off properly during ripening still giving me the best results for yield and potency. But plants do tend to go a couple weeks longer than most growers like.
In my 40+ years experience, I find identical clones ripened faster because of different nutes have the exact same potentcy as those that ripened later due to higher N. The only difference in my clones are size and taste. The faster finishing low N buds are smaller but taste better. Overall yield is increased with extra N, while relative yield is unchanged. The faster flowers are also less suseptible to mold, pests and disease.
 
MIMedGrower

MIMedGrower

In my 40+ years experience, I find identical clones ripened faster because of different nutes have the exact same potentcy as those that ripened later due to higher N. The only difference in my clones are size and taste. The faster finishing low N buds are smaller but taste better. Overall yield is increased with extra N, while relative yield is unchanged. The faster flowers are also less suseptible to mold, pests and disease.

in my tests flowers were noticeably more potent and complex in smell and effects the longer they go as long as they are healthy enough to keep producing.

Its not just more nitrogen. Its the proper ratio for the plant.

And you can see the layers of new trichomes growing the last weeks.

i feed real light so sometimes i even increase nute strength to keep them going more weeks if i think they have more to give. The last plants i harvested went 12 and 13 weeks and much of the yield and resin came after week 10.

Thats my experience anyway.
 
MIMedGrower

MIMedGrower

I never heard of the vf-11 stuff but the snake oil sales is quite high with this one. Apparently made for the rose growers. Who buy into hype as much as weed growers. Lol


heres a blog that includes the washington state analysis of ingredients. A very eye opening resource. Dont look up your favorite microbe product. You will find out the truth. ;-)

 
growsince79

growsince79

in my tests flowers were noticeably more potent and complex in smell and effects the longer they go as long as they are healthy enough to keep producing.

Its not just more nitrogen. Its the proper ratio for the plant.

And you can see the layers of new trichomes growing the last weeks.

i feed real light so sometimes i even increase nute strength to keep them going more weeks if i think they have more to give. The last plants i harvested went 12 and 13 weeks and much of the yield and resin came after week 10.

Thats my experience anyway.
Opinions and taste vary. I guess the only way to prove it either way is to do a side by side and have independent labs analyze each. When I did my side by sides there were no labs.
 
growsince79

growsince79

I never heard of the vf-11 stuff but the snake oil sales is quite high with this one. Apparently made for the rose growers. Who buy into hype as much as weed growers. Lol


heres a blog that includes the washington state analysis of ingredients. A very eye opening resource. Dont look up your favorite microbe product. You will find out the truth. ;-)

With all due respect, you shouldn't bash products that you haven't even tried. VF-11 is far from snake oil. It isn't even marketed for cannabis. But it works great. You have no idea how good it is and you never will. So why bash? Merry XMAS
 
MIMedGrower

MIMedGrower

Opinions and taste vary. I guess the only way to prove it either way is to do a side by side and have independent labs analyze each. When I did my side by sides there were no labs.

I have patients feedback as well as Mrs. MMG. We blind tested folks many times. I have a perpetually stuffy sinus so i dont rely on myself for smell and taste tests.

But the dispensary i worked with had my flushed and unflushed plant tested and the unflushed one had 3% more thc and some more yield but i cant remember how much. The peoples center got raided and i never got copies. I would have tested everything back then. I was running 3 known clones 3 times each for tests. I did it for a couple of years back when i posted on riu. Some stuff is in the long 315cmh thread.
 
MIMedGrower

MIMedGrower

With all due respect, you shouldn't bash products that you haven't even tried. VF-11 is far from snake oil. It isn't even marketed for cannabis. But it works great. You have no idea how good it is and you never will. So why bash? Merry XMAS

whats in it? The company doesnt say and the lab tests show not much.

Confirmation bias is real. Thats why scientists doing tests are not allowed to participate. They automatically skew the results.

I will stick with facts over opinion. Please show me any about vf-11.
 
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