MIMedGrower
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Kind of just beat me to it. I posted about strip builds right after you. I guess gavita went that way too.
You wanna get close spyderx fluence.
Kind of just beat me to it. I posted about strip builds right after you. I guess gavita went that way too.
Oof looking up the spyderx fluence left me gasping. I'm sure the lights are good and all. But cost way more than I'm willing to spend.
EXACTLY what he said^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^An important facotr is Mars uses SMD Epistar chips where as Kingbrite uses Samsung LM301B or LM301H chips. The samsung LEDs are superior in converting watts to light photons and not just into heat output. Essentially that means watts alone doesn't determine how good a light is.
I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers on the costs.
The TSW2000 uses more energy, produces less efficient light and costs more upfront. There really aren't any positives going for it in my opinon.
- Four 288 boards(480 watts) will not cost more than 320 USD or 424 CAD and that includes shipping
- Two TSW2000(610 watts) according to your discount would cost 423USD or 560 CAD(unsure if that includes shipping)
You got it bro.Alright. Some things I've learned from this thread (and a few mins of research online) so far.
1 Alibaba is sketchy as hell. Most of their ads show a picture of something, at a great price. But you go to buy it, and you have to choose options. The price they list is almost always not for the item I the picture. It took me half a dozen links before I found one that was actually what I was looking for. Even then, I read reviews and I've seen more than a few times. "Item never showed up, contacted seller, they never responded." Old reviews too, so assume it never got resolved? When signing up for an account, entering my address. They dont have fields you just fill in. They have drop down menus for country province and city. Well i live in the most main city in my province, Vancouver. It's not on the list. Closest thing is greater Vancouver area, and that's about 6 to 8 different cities. All very large and up to an hour apart or more. So who the hell knows if I ordered something if I'd even get it.
2. Samsung lm301b's honestly kick the shit out of any other led lumens per watt.
Mars uses epistar diodes that have 120 lumens per watt, lm301b LEDs are 223 lumens per watt. That is damn near double. I knew they were higher, but I thought 5%. Turns out it's more like 80%! Wow.
3. Mars no longer uses meanwell drivers.
So in conclusion to my searching, 2 quantum boards at 240w shor be good for my 3x3 tent. Being as the 240w on LEDs rated way higher than any other.
At 300w the Mars tsw2000 would give me about 36000 lumens. 2 quantum boards at 240w would give me about 53000 lumens.
So I'm going to order 2 boards on 1 heat sink. It should be enough, if my numbers are correct.
Can you please elaborate on this. In terms of quality. No generic statements. I own an actual hlg 600. What is the difference you are talking about between the kingbrite and hlg.Nock off or cheap leds are not worth it just use a hps or cmh, if your "testing" what are you actually testing how a crap led does and will not compare to a "real" led. If you have a budget get a cmh or 2. Ive used cheaper than hlg prices and what a joke.
does any one wear glasses to protect their eyes for led's ? if so please recommend
A wise decision! I'm glad you took the time to look into things and do the research, as now you know how awesome those Samsung LEDs and Mean Well drivers are. They also have Samsung LM301H available which is newer than the LM301B but they are both great chips.Alright. Some things I've learned from this thread (and a few mins of research online) so far.
1 Alibaba is sketchy as hell. Most of their ads show a picture of something, at a great price. But you go to buy it, and you have to choose options. The price they list is almost always not for the item I the picture. It took me half a dozen links before I found one that was actually what I was looking for. Even then, I read reviews and I've seen more than a few times. "Item never showed up, contacted seller, they never responded." Old reviews too, so assume it never got resolved? When signing up for an account, entering my address. They dont have fields you just fill in. They have drop down menus for country province and city. Well i live in the most main city in my province, Vancouver. It's not on the list. Closest thing is greater Vancouver area, and that's about 6 to 8 different cities. All very large and up to an hour apart or more. So who the hell knows if I ordered something if I'd even get it.
2. Samsung lm301b's honestly kick the shit out of any other led lumens per watt.
Mars uses epistar diodes that have 120 lumens per watt, lm301b LEDs are 223 lumens per watt. That is damn near double. I knew they were higher, but I thought 5%. Turns out it's more like 80%! Wow.
3. Mars no longer uses meanwell drivers.
So in conclusion to my searching, 2 quantum boards at 240w shor be good for my 3x3 tent. Being as the 240w on LEDs rated way higher than any other.
At 300w the Mars tsw2000 would give me about 36000 lumens. 2 quantum boards at 240w would give me about 53000 lumens.
So I'm going to order 2 boards on 1 heat sink. It should be enough, if my numbers are correct.
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