RDWC brown root problems????

MediMary · Apr 1, 2011

For not being a hydro guy, you sure seem to know it all;)

mrdizzle · Apr 1, 2011

wow the little butt hurt ego on you is amazing, a week later after many sleepless nights for you, you bring this shit up again, you truly are a petty man bro.

DD can say to lower you chiller ect but he is factually wrong about rot not being able to live under 67, and If I gave a shit, I would find the study from cornell university stating that there are species that live only under 67 degree

his theories about tub temps might be true for him but no everyones bucket temps rise due to the fact no everyone runs 20,000w.My tubs never once had a different temp than my res/chiller temps. I bet you gettgros water was ice cold since he lives in CO

and for the record you gave shit advice and still do as far as Im concerned you dont even grow as there is no proof so honestly peace yourself out of the farm

primeform · Apr 1, 2011

I sure know a hell of a lot more then the people on this thread calling names and regurgitating shitty info.

The reason i said "im not a hydro guy" was to allow people to understand my personal experience level with it. But all the information im giving you guys is from people that have RUN THE SYSTEM ExTENSIVELY. if you dont like me fine, but try to disprove the information not the messenger.

You guys have STILL not shown why hygrozyme "grows slime" or any factual piece of information about anything. You keep going back to "you just have to run rdwc to know".

Well stupid arguement and its the reason you all have problems imo. now go tell DD why hes an idiot for only running chilled rez.

mrdizzle · Apr 1, 2011

primeform said:
Using Hygrozyme in pure hydroponic systems
Directions - World Garden
The function of Hygrozyme in a pure hydroponic system is that of a refined, organic, natural cleaner and facilitator.

Hygrozyme, which has Organic Materials Review Institute (OMRI) approval and an unlimited shelf-life, has a dual purpose. First, it aids in breaking down and converting dead organic material quickly and efficiently. Second, it improves the ability of the roots to absorb the valuable nutrients released from the expedited natural breakdown of dead matter.

Why is this important?

A closed hydroponic system the build-up of dead organic material can encourage the development of diseases or pathogens. Often this sort of build-up happens in difficult to reach and clean places such as pipes and pumps, where there are little pockets and spaces that are nearly impossible for anyone to keep sterile. Prevention is the best way to protect your plants by not giving pests and diseases hospitable conditions.

Even a short period of time is enough for a hydroponic system to become contaminated. Quick intervention is essential to protect the roots of your plants.

Why Hygrozyme?

Enzyme formulas are considered the gold standard for sterilization in the medical industry for surgical instruments and other medical supplies. If Hygrozyme is used as directed from the start, in a clean system, it will prevent the build-up of debris and the vulnerability to disease and pathogens. It is very effective in keeping systems clean.

Hygrozyme is the only known solution on the market that can be used in conjunction with hydrogen peroxide in a ppm of 1-2% solution, a combination used by many operators to clean, sterilize and oxygenate roots.

It is important to note that Hygrozyme is a natural plant enzyme. It does not kill anything. To be effective, it is best used before bio film build up grabs hold in your system, causing complications and producing an environment ideal for problems such as Pythium. While some growers have reported Hygrozyme has arrested root rot, it has to be caught early and treated with vigilance.

Prevention, even for plants, is the best medicine and the prescription of choice is Hygrozyme.

hahahahaah you post a paid advertisement from hydrozyme as your proof. how bout you run a fucking RDWC system yourself you clown and add all the fucking hydrozyme your heart desires.

I offically loath you and all like you. your asshole is a pair of lips

primeform · Apr 1, 2011

proof? want me to quote 10 more people then I did earlier that arent too stupid to use hygrozyme correctly? I posted that because you guys dont seem to even understand what hygrozyme even is. I feel bad for you and your plants.

Mr.GoodCat · Apr 1, 2011

Primeform you get the asshat of the year award. Your only knowledge in this subject comes from you copying and pasting from Wikepedia and a paid advertisement from hygrozyme.

You are truly one of a kind. Your lack on knowledge shines on you like beam of sunshine. I would bet you have never grown in hydro ever, in fact I would almost bet you don't even own a grow light. Lets see some pics of what you have done, and try not to use the copy and paste function.

MediMary · Apr 1, 2011

I just had it out with another member a couple weeks ago here and almost got myself shitcanned.

and yah know out of everyone on the farm, including that guy,
I really do hate you the most primeform, dizzle couldn't have said it better.

primeform · Apr 1, 2011

mrdizzle said:
wow the little butt hurt ego on you is amazing, a week later after many sleepless nights for you, you bring this shit up again, you truly are a petty man bro.

DD can say to lower you chiller ect but he is factually wrong about rot not being able to live under 67, and If I gave a shit, I would find the study from cornell university stating that there are species that live only under 67 degree

his theories about tub temps might be true for him but no everyones bucket temps rise due to the fact no everyone runs 20,000w.My tubs never once had a different temp than my res/chiller temps. I bet you gettgros water was ice cold since he lives in CO

and for the record you gave shit advice and still do as far as Im concerned you dont even grow as there is no proof so honestly peace yourself out of the farm

you are a joke. keep insulting people to make yourself feel better.

Funniest thing ive ever heard is you telling me i have to run RDWC to "know". Then you say that DD is full of shit but it might "work for him".
Also read the part that DD said "in nutrient solution". We already linked the info that said certain root rot can live in lower temps. Hes implying that they cant live at that temperature WITH that much disolved nutrients. Do you have any info on that from cornel university study?

So who other then me and DD would you like to enlighten with your amazing info?

MediMary · Apr 1, 2011

I think the problem is you take hygrozymes paid advertisments as fact, and the countless growers who say fuck hygrozyme in DWC, is not any type of proof.

at this point it seems you are here simply to troll stupid answers

primeform · Apr 1, 2011

Who are these countless growers? You havent mentioned ONE. I have quotes earlier in the thread from ACTUAL GROWERS. what do you have? You cant even explain why hygrozyme is bad.

HAVE YOU EVER USED HYGROZYME IN A STERILE REZ? I doubt ANY of you have.

primeform · Apr 1, 2011

More help for root rot in hydroponic systems

Growers struggling with some sort of root rot problem may wonder how to best use Hygrozyme. We've heard from experienced hydroponic growers who have had many, many crops without any problems and are baffled by a new variable of root rot.

The problem is typically characterized by the roots doing well until the second week of bloom, and then around that time they turn brown and start to disintegrate. The roots smell musty and rotten, like a dirty aquarium. A few of the less hardy plants wilt. Others begin yellowing. While the harvest is not entirely ruined, it is not close to expectations for a successful crop.

Here are some suggestions for incorporating Sipco's OMRI-rated plant enzyme breakthrough, Hygrozyme into care of your plants:

Carefully consider the temperature of your hydroponic system. Hobby growers often produce various plants without using a chiller, but depending on what you are growing consider that professional growers often use a water chiller.
Aim to achieve the ideal reservoir temperature of about 68 degrees. Plants can handle even cooler temps that that, but they are not usually able to take up as much nutrient if the temperatures drop lower than 68 degrees. Conversely, warmer temperatures encourage pathogens. Generally any reservoir above 72 degrees is just asking for problems.
Control fungus gnats. Even though the damage fungus gnats can do seems microscopic and not very important, their tiny size is misleading. Fungus gnat larvae do actually damage root zones, providing wounds in the roots through which pathogens are able to enter the vascular systems of the plants. Gnatrol has been reportedly successful in dealing with fungus gnats.
Make sure roots have plenty of airation.
Silica is a good additive to the nutrient routine as it strengthens cell walls.
Use Hygrozyme throughout the cycle. It is ideally used as a preventative step to maintain a sterile growth medium, but has arrested the onset of many diseases if caught early and then continually added until harvest. If it is too late, start over but ensure you start with a sterile hydroponic system, gardening tools, and healthy, disease-free new plants.

MediMary · Apr 1, 2011

where are you getting this info from dude, care to leave a link
right from the hygrozome website, sounds like
LOL

primeform · Apr 1, 2011

I love how all the RDWC trolls posted within 5 minutes of that LOL. that was awsome.

Medimary, mrgoodcat, and mrdizzle are my favorite entertainment lately lol

primeform · Apr 1, 2011

Still waiting for you Einsteins to tell me why hygrozyme is bad in a sterile environment. Will leave as soon as you guys come up with some facts.

Yes medi we just confirmed that this info came from spico so you can understand HOW to use hygrozyme.

MediMary · Apr 1, 2011

maybe if everyone reports primeform ~ one of the mods will shit can this guy...

I can't talk to you man, its like talking to a god damn fence post.

mrdizzle · Apr 1, 2011

primeform said:
I love how all the RDWC trolls posted within 5 minutes of that LOL. that was awsome.

Medimary, mrgoodcat, and mrdizzle are my favorite entertainment lately lol

sorry bro I went for a walk with my dog and got some coffee? What should I relpy too a copy and paste from a on-line hydrostore's description of hydrozyme?

some info for you, from a ex tulip grower turn hydroponic store owner in burlingame when I ask him about it a couple years ago, he told me skip it its not worth anything, he had his former prof at UC Davis test hydrozyme and he said it is nothing more than sugar and alcohol without any traces of enzymes

mind you this guy could have just sold me the fucking hydrozyme, took my $130 bucks and called it a day.

primeform · Apr 1, 2011

yes they will shit can me for disagreeing with you. I think ill send logic a message with this comment. You are a true winner.

primeform · Apr 1, 2011

mrdizzle said:
sorry bro I went for a walk with my dog and got some coffee? What should I relpy too a copy and paste from a on-line hydrostore's description of hydrozyme?

some info for you, from a ex tulip grower turn hydroponic store owner in burlingame when I ask him about it a couple years ago, he told me skip it its not worth anything, he had his former prof at UC Davis test hydrozyme and he said it is nothing more than sugar and alcohol without any traces of enzymes

mind you this guy could have just sold me the fucking hydrozyme, took my $130 bucks and called it a day.

So this is your proof? LOL thats a joke. A hydro store owner told you its junk. How is this different from copy and pasting info of the net?

Anyways, whatever floats your boat man. Not sure why your so against hygrozyme if this is your only experience with it but cool. I guess this is whats worth all the name calling eh?

Mr.GoodCat · Apr 1, 2011

Primeform where is your head at? First you recommend great white and hygrozyme, then you quoted dd recommending dropping the chiller temp to 62 now you are saying use hygrozyme in a sterile rez with res temps at 68-72 (well spico recommends it with the infamous primeform copy and paste) You are questioning all of us if we know how to use hygrozyme and it is perfectly clear you have no fucking clue bro.

Find a successful RDWC grow thread with the use of hygrozyme and I will show you 10 failed ones, but not until you show me 1 with pictures.

primeform · Apr 1, 2011

Actually MGC here was my recommendations.

Im not a hydro guy but from what i gather here are your solutions:
1> set chiller to 62 degrees as the root rot cant live below 67.
2> DM zone if you want to run sterile(meaning no benes or root excel)
3> hygrozyme to eat up the dead roots

Chill water, sterilize, then add hygrozyme to clean it up. If you add hygrozyme before sterilizing then your going to fubar yourself.

I also said that after you sterilize you can go back to Benes like RE and great white. And there would be no point to adding hygrozyme because the bacteria will produce enzymes like it. You can add hygro if you like to feed the good benes if your sure you have a colony of non baddies.

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