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Wipe out!
Yeah i aint forgotten your teachings......even borg mite soldiers cant handle a diligent 91%spray of 1:1 mix. I wo der if the iso kills the eggs as well?All of those chemicals are single-site mode of action miticides, and are known to cause resistance, some more quickly than others. Azamax/Azatrol are known not to, as taught to me by babaG here on the farm. They also typically require a good bit of personal protective gear to be applied safely.
I've used it, and was unimpressed between the cost and the difficulty in getting some oils into an emulsion. Frankly, the iso method I prefer is what I've ended up using much more often and stick to now, especially since I was sending my trim to a friend for extracts. He does NOT want other plant essential oils in the mix (especially neem). Btw, SNS 217 *is* essential oils (and emulsifiers).
I've reverse engineered the SNS 217C. It's ok. I prefer using a mix of 1:1 iso:water applied every 2-3 days for two weeks.
Spraying with pH'd water won't do a thing to the mites, but it's effective for killing the fruiting bodies of powdery mildew.
I've been doing my research on these little bastard's and have a few questions.
- prevention??(I know it's not 100%)
- would spraying the foliage with ph'd water (tops/underside) everyday/everyother day help?
- sns217? Good or waste of money?
I'm going to run a 8-10" fan blowing up towards the top and of course a few clip fans for proper air movement.this should help to correct?
me neither.. even tho i did use ogbiowar foliar pack once on plants 3 weeks into flower, but i tried to not get much on the small flowers...Just because its safe for food plants doesnt mean its safe for smokable plants. I wouldnt spray anything on a flowering plant.
Man you ever been bit by ladybugs...How big is your space you can buy Lady bugs this time of year. I found a few of he rubby red spider mites like one ever few days here and there I just put 1500 lady bugs in my 7x10 garden and havnt seen anything but lady bugs for days now the guy at the hydro store said the lady bugs eat one bug a day but I figure 1500 bugs eaten a day is more then enough and cheap only cost like 12 bucks
Should of let about 500 go first. Then 2 more rounds. As soon as you see no ladies go for the next round. I do this with the outdoor small greenhouse. Put that jar back in fridge and they chill out. Just some thoughts.How big is your space you can buy Lady bugs this time of year. I found a few of he rubby red spider mites like one ever few days here and there I just put 1500 lady bugs in my 7x10 garden and havnt seen anything but lady bugs for days now the guy at the hydro store said the lady bugs eat one bug a day but I figure 1500 bugs eaten a day is more then enough and cheap only cost like 12 bucks
The ones that bite are Asian lady beetles, they control pests but are also agressive and will bite things other than pests. The native ladybugs aren't agressive and will crawl all over you without ever biting, but still control pests.Man you ever been bit by ladybugs...
1500 seems like a scary movie :(
Should of let about 500 go first. Then 2 more rounds. As soon as you see no ladies go for the next round. I do this with the outdoor small greenhouse. Put that jar back in fridge and they chill out. Just some thoughts.
Hey, your wrong. Sorry. You have all that to say? One thing, never even get spider mites in the first place.......First off, don't spray any "preventatives" that are not healthy and beneficial, absolutely ridiculous to be poisoning your patients unless absolutely necessary...some of this advice is from people who have no business growing.
I just noticed a spider mite plant today in the corner almost totally destroyed, speckles over all leaves on a 2' tall mob boss plant with webbing and everything in a room with 50 others that mostly are unaffected.
First thing I did was go over everything in veg, pruning and checking the damage on every single plant, had been a few weeks since I personally pruned and must have snuck up on me during that time. Saw maybe 10 plants with evidence of mites and only 3 were bad. One was unhealthy so I killed it, the worst one which was the first I saw I treated as follows.
Filled a small spray bottle with Mighty wash (ultimate wash) and sprayed the entire plant then came through with a paint brush and wiped the mites and eggs off both sides of every leaf, front and back, maybe took 5 minutes. Make sure you brush everything, the tiny white eggs and dark mites off, and that the sides are wet because it kills on contact... Only needed to do this to 2 other plants besides the one I killed, so luckily the damage wasn't too bad but if I had waited a week I would be totally fucked, and even another couple of days this plant would need to be killed but I am happy with how it's been cleaned and will do it again in a few days to be safe but pretty sure 95-99% of them are gone on that plant.
Now that the whole room has been cleaned and examined, I am breaking out my forbid which I haven't had to use for 2 years...this stuff is the golden ticket against spider mites, basically if you spray a plant (that's not totally infested) they will die if they eat it for 30 days and their eggs will die too, since its a systemic. So spray it twice about a week apart and do the cleaning like I described and you will pretty much never see one of those fuckers again. But never use the forbid, or any systemic a week after flowering starts, one you are poisoning people and two it's not effective the flowering hormones will cancel out the effects, stick with Mighty wash for in flower plants or just isolate them in your flower room so they arent touching and brush them off as much as possible.
I don't like floramite harsh chemical and not effective first time I used it the mites were hanging down from single webs the day after I sprayed it but became resistant and couldn't get rid of them, avid is a systemic that isn't considered a cure by any means, pyrethrins good for aphids, azamax will kill your plants faster than anything, spinosad is alright seems to kill on contact But nothing I would use again, I wouldn't mess with essential oils but some good possibilities in that direction with the right recipe I think. Most other solutions I have seen have either been too damaging or not effective not that I have seen it all, but alot of this advice I don't care for. Forbid is the key to easily make your crop forbidden to spider mites but I really hope I don't have to use it for another couple years, cross my fingers =X
Your ignoring smoke342, right?I think that was the newest guy that Ive ignored.