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Miami Mango, Have you scoped for broad and/or cyclamen mites. Many people misdiagnose those for a virus.
Tobor's Thread.
TMV the final answer:
New to this, I tried clicking on That guy tobor the 8th man... but cant see his stuff.@oscar169 @Miami Mango -- do a search on @Tobor the 8th Man -- he did a lot of research into this, and one of the things he determined was that TMV does not infect cannabis. It very well may be another mosaic virus, but it may be other things as well. Read up on Tobor's thread when you find it.
thanks Mill Seamaiden Pictures of worst ever plants in 2 life times, prior to eradication. after fire its leaves from new mutations at same place.You have to go to his profile page, then go to his postings. Or, you can search his username for TMV, but using just those three letters you'll have to do it using Google. But! leadsled actually saved you the trouble and dug up & linked the thread.
Something's vectoring if you're working with 'clean' plants and they come down with it, assuming 'it' is a mosaic virus. 'It' could be another virus, or 'it' could be the broad/cyclamen mites lead mentioned. We're turning up some pretty noxious pests and diseases as MMJ spreads across the nation, they're becoming commoner and commoner.
@ Coir guess you battled them before, In a way, I hope so that is a fightable fight and winnable, with lots of work though and don't really mind nor care at this point. I'm declaring chemical and heat war fare as soon as I take this next ones down, I have a new game plan for those SOB's. I wish I would have known at the time I was fighting a pest not a virus as the next set of plants look like they may have and soon to find out if that is another battle or end to a war.#2 and #3 sure look like broad mite damage. And I so wish I did not know how it looks!
Is this t.m.v. I've looked for days on multiple forums and nothing. I found a pic on googled that led me to this thread so I joined in hopes that one of u have the knowledge and patience to help me understand this and what my best option is. 1000 thank you in advance. May love light and an abundance of peace be provided to u and all your loved ones.Re: What is this? Frustrated Big Time! PLS HELP!!
Community please listen up:
Every time I see someone with these problems experienced growers always reply that it is due to over feeding etc. those are always legit responses, always great things to check. But in reality what I see over and over again is hemp mosaic virus or tobacco mosaic virus. Please please community look into this issue and the characteristics of the virus as it is becoming an incredibly huge epidemic as friends pass it along with cuttings.
In veg you can identify it when:
1) the leaf tip turns almost on a 90 degree angle
2) leaf variegation
3) almost looks a little mutated
4) slower than normal growth rates
If you didn't catch it in veg then here are the characteristics in flower:
1) will normally show it's ugly head in weeks 2 to 4 of flower
2) if you are experienced, they'll will automatically think that something is wrong with your recipe (nothing wrong, it's the virus, only applies to experienced guys)
3) plants will look as if someone literally poured bleach on you tops ( this is why it is usually confused with too high of ppm or over feeding)
4) the plant will try to repair itself and you will think that it will, but you will realize that you were dead wrong in week 5 or 6 ( unfortunately I know from personal experience) took me months to finally identify it.)
5) everyone will tell you at you are over feeding, and I'm not saying that it might not be the case if you are a newbie, but if you've put in your time you should know better.
One of the best solutions is aspirin. Read up on it please guys and learn to identify it at the clone stage.
THIS WILL BE AN EPIDEMIC OTHERWISE..
Dispensaries have it and the people that run the clones ( clone managers) don't even know what it is...most of them dip the rock wool in a common tray so that means if one comes in with it they now all have it...
Think about it:
Harborside has thousands of little guys ( yes I got some infestations from them before), also from organican, ( which blows me away because the lady at Organicann actually knows her shit, she had a couple of mothers that were infected sitting on the counter and even told me so), blows me away that she would have it there with their vast array of little guys. Same with Harborside.
I hope this helps someone to quickly identify and correct the issue. I now assume everything has it and treat them with aspirin from the beginning just as a precaution.
If anyone has any questions hit me up, I wish I had pics of what it looks like but a quick google search will bring some up.
Good luck fam!
lPC
That is the same thing mine looked like and where doing tested them and NEG for TMVIs this t.m.v.
So what do u think then? Broad mites? Ive scoured for hours at 60x with a light to detect living things. Nothothing. Im at a loss. Its not spreading to my g.d.p. thats right next to it. I just cant figure it out. Thought at first it was nitrogen toxicity but no claw like symptoms or wilting. Then nitrogen deff. All the p.h. checked out so. A fellow told me to wash my drainage plates. That things build up and crust up and causes issues. So I did. Then he ask about my drainage so I added rocks to amother 5 gal bucket and placed the plant and its original bucket in the new rock bottom bucket to get the best possible drainage. Hi thought my plants roots might be sitting in stagnant water to add more circulation so I have. Now im waiting.That is the same thing mine looked like and where doing tested them and NEG for TMV
It totally looks like broad damage to me. I suggest starting with new clones and doing a double avid dip and then keeping up with something like og biowar/ caps bennies. I know avid is gnarly, but believe me (I guess you can see with your own eyes) broads are so gnarly and we have them all over California right now. I also know that if you have plants in flower and want to try to save some of them you can try a heat treatment. Basically, get the ambient temp in your room to 115 for over three hours and that will help tremendously, along with a little aspirin. Sorry you are dealing with this but I am sure with some persistence you will pass this bridge. Good Luck!@ Coir guess you battled them before, In a way, I hope so that is a fightable fight and winnable, with lots of work though and don't really mind nor care at this point. I'm declaring chemical and heat war fare as soon as I take this next ones down, I have a new game plan for those SOB's. I wish I would have known at the time I was fighting a pest not a virus as the next set of plants look like they may have and soon to find out if that is another battle or end to a war.
Just getting my ass kicked left and right.
Time will tell. We'll see.
Thanks.
But what about testing for other mosaic viruses? Because what he's shown looks a lot like a mosaic virus to me.Is this t.m.v. I've looked for days on multiple forums and nothing. I found a pic on googled that led me to this thread so I joined in hopes that one of u have the knowledge and patience to help me understand this and what my best option is. 1000 thank you in advance. May love light and an abundance of peace be provided to u and all your loved ones.
That is the same thing mine looked like and where doing tested them and NEG for TMV
So what do u think then? Broad mites? Ive scoured for hours at 60x with a light to detect living things. Nothothing. Im at a loss. Its not spreading to my g.d.p. thats right next to it. I just cant figure it out. Thought at first it was nitrogen toxicity but no claw like symptoms or wilting. Then nitrogen deff. All the p.h. checked out so. A fellow told me to wash my drainage plates. That things build up and crust up and causes issues. So I did. Then he ask about my drainage so I added rocks to amother 5 gal bucket and placed the plant and its original bucket in the new rock bottom bucket to get the best possible drainage. Hi thought my plants roots might be sitting in stagnant water to add more circulation so I have. Now im waiting.
But what about testing for other mosaic viruses? Because what he's shown looks a lot like a mosaic virus to me.