Re: What is this? Frustrated Big Time! PLS HELP!!
Community please listen up:
Every time I see someone with these problems experienced growers always reply that it is due to over feeding etc. those are always legit responses, always great things to check. But in reality what I see over and over again is hemp mosaic virus or tobacco mosaic virus. Please please community look into this issue and the characteristics of the virus as it is becoming an incredibly huge epidemic as friends pass it along with cuttings.
In veg you can identify it when:
1) the leaf tip turns almost on a 90 degree angle
2) leaf variegation
3) almost looks a little mutated
4) slower than normal growth rates
If you didn't catch it in veg then here are the characteristics in flower:
1) will normally show it's ugly head in weeks 2 to 4 of flower
2) if you are experienced, they'll will automatically think that something is wrong with your recipe (nothing wrong, it's the virus, only applies to experienced guys)
3) plants will look as if someone literally poured bleach on you tops ( this is why it is usually confused with too high of ppm or over feeding)
4) the plant will try to repair itself and you will think that it will, but you will realize that you were dead wrong in week 5 or 6 ( unfortunately I know from personal experience) took me months to finally identify it.)
5) everyone will tell you at you are over feeding, and I'm not saying that it might not be the case if you are a newbie, but if you've put in your time you should know better.
One of the best solutions is aspirin. Read up on it please guys and learn to identify it at the clone stage.
THIS WILL BE AN EPIDEMIC OTHERWISE..
Dispensaries have it and the people that run the clones ( clone managers) don't even know what it is...most of them dip the rock wool in a common tray so that means if one comes in with it they now all have it...
Think about it:
Harborside has thousands of little guys ( yes I got some infestations from them before), also from organican, ( which blows me away because the lady at Organicann actually knows her shit, she had a couple of mothers that were infected sitting on the counter and even told me so), blows me away that she would have it there with their vast array of little guys. Same with Harborside.
I hope this helps someone to quickly identify and correct the issue. I now assume everything has it and treat them with aspirin from the beginning just as a precaution.
If anyone has any questions hit me up, I wish I had pics of what it looks like but a quick google search will bring some up.
Good luck fam!
lPC
Native to Florida migrated to Northern Cal, I've never heard or encountered anything like this crap after lots of losses and rethinking all information I've gathered for 20 or so years I finally took to the web to look for a solution, after endless nights looking I stumbled upon TMV and kept doing research. I'm 99% sure I got this from all the research I've done. I'm a pretty thorough guy and extremely clean, I say 99% cause I have not tested any plants yet, I would have never believe this causes this much devastation. I am currently trying that RNA product that seems expensive as hell but if it works it will be worth it. Destroyed and burn everything on site, if it was cheap it was replaced, hoses, pvc, feeder tubes etc, other stuff got scrubbed and cleaned with bleach and soap, then dipped and re-dipped in water with enough powdered chlorine to disinfect 50+ Olympic size pools, then I boiled everything in a huge industrial size pot big enough for me to take a bath prior to bringing it back in the structure. If it broke by boiling it, it got rebought.
Got new clones and left them in their original boxes put them under some light and with in a few days seems like they were infected again. I did not even water them or feed them yet. We all washed everything and sprayed the walls with straight chlorine let it sit and rinsed, washed our clothes in hot water and bleach, everything you could do we did, boiled water in turkey fryer pans and dumped them on the sub-floors you name it.
I started treating them with RNA and I thought holy shit this stuff is amazing, the plants never looked so good in my life, I'm at 6 weeks in and starting to get a little worried again, 2 different SD's in 2 different areas one is amazing looking even though is not perfumy in the room, other one grew like hella fast and seems like flower size is puttering out on me and no smell either. Shit its starting 6 weeks, it should reek already.
I broke down and signed up to this forum, (my first ever and at one point I vowed to never do)
I've read a lot of info in other sites and this one My questions are:
#1 Has Anyone used RNA and had %100 successful results AFTER TMV.
#2 Has anyone gotten RNA tested to see if its glorified aspirin?
#3 Does Aspirin work?
#4 Aspirin Doses per gallon? Foliar or thru feed?
#5 Inexpensive place to test the plants?
#6 Place that will test ingredients in RNA?
I'm 4 weeks away and hope my luck changes, please reply with any useful comments, I'm down on my luck and really don't need negative comments or you to tell me I'm over feeding, mostly same recipe and mostly same strain for 20 years plus and I know what I'm doing.
Thanks, Keep business Blooming.