Maine/Vermont/parts of NY would all have a very similar growing season. Again, its not frost. It's dew point. Once you begin to hit dew point every night, it takes a lot to deliver a healthy crop. I know many northern growers who are outside early with a leaf blower blowing off the moisture from their crops.About the same here, though I’m a wee bit south than you (New England) so we have from basically the summer solstice until maybe the 2nd week of October if we’re lucky.
Even then, I still wouldn’t try a photoperiod sativa here.
Ah, that's fair. Come September, everything is wet and soggy first thing in the morning, so I get what you're saying. I didn't even consider that, tbh.Maine/Vermont/parts of NY would all have a very similar growing season. Again, its not frost. It's dew point. Once you begin to hit dew point every night, it takes a lot to deliver a healthy crop. I know many northern growers who are outside early with a leaf blower blowing off the moisture from their crops.
Did that this last fall every morning, still lost 3 of 4 to mildew/rot/frost.Maine/Vermont/parts of NY would all have a very similar growing season. Again, its not frost. It's dew point. Once you begin to hit dew point every night, it takes a lot to deliver a healthy crop. I know many northern growers who are outside early with a leaf blower blowing off the moisture from their crops.
you just made my point.do you grow autos and why will maybe help me understand. plus when it comes to haircolor, it doesnt make the women you should be able to deal with whatever color they chose to wear.
I grow in a greenhouse. Dew point is still dew point. Best remedy is lots of moving air.Ah, that's fair. Come September, everything is wet and soggy first thing in the morning, so I get what you're saying. I didn't even consider that, tbh.
I was going to do a plant or 3 outdoors this year to see what outdoor growing was like, but I think I'll keep them in my greenhouse at night/on rainy days instead, and bring them to my deck on the good days so they can really soak in that sweet sunshine.
Even if i put plants outside the end of July, theres a possibility that all the time and work that went into those plants, will be lost to rot. Like MIGrampaUSA said, the temp hits the dew point almost every single night in September, then i have to watch the weather every day for possible frost, or its just too cold for the plants to even grow/fatten up. Id rather not deal with the headaches and just plant 10-15 autos and have them all done and harvested by the end of august.no i suggested a mature plant in veg to be transplanted outdoor when your conditions are right
3 months will be flowering time only
Also, when it gets to be later in the season, my plants dont even see sunlight until like 1030 am, and then they are back in the shade by 6pm. So they never really see the sun after mid September.no i suggested a mature plant in veg to be transplanted outdoor when your conditions are right
3 months will be flowering time only
you decided to go and give your reason anyway and its a good onephoto's in winter suck for me because i have to be up real late or real early to deal with them during lights on.
some start flowering at 14/10and just out of curiosity, what difference does it make if you start a photo inside?
you still need the 12/12 cycle to trigger flowering do you not?
i guess the hard and true outside photo guys here are from down south?
14 hours is still towards mid August where I am at.some start flowering at 14/10
you guys make good points regarding what's best to grow to your specific geographical location. im coming from a place where conditions are optimal 9 months(3 cycles of clones) of the year so took me a while to snap into it(not being able to grow outdoors for 1 cycle)
Think a stand up pedestal fan would be enough in an 8x8’ greenhouse? (I did run electricity out there)I grow in a greenhouse. Dew point is still dew point. Best remedy is lots of moving air.
We joke about not having a winter here, but that’s only when we get no snow and the temps are bordering 40F during the day lolsome start flowering at 14/10
you guys make good points regarding what's best to grow to your specific geographical location. im coming from a place where conditions are optimal 9 months, we often joke that we didnt have a winter some years.
Think a stand up pedestal fan would be enough in an 8x8’ greenhouse? (I did run electricity out there)
How do you mitigate those issues?
FWIW, it’s not one of the plastic pop up greenhouses - it’s a wooden one with a transparent roof and some windows along the walls. I stashed my pellets in there (as well as my shed) and I never had any frost/dew/moisture on any of the bags this winter (aside from when a wind storm blew off one of my roof panels).
Then again, I haven’t had any plants in there yet, so idk if that will affect the dew point.
I think it has something to do with being a noob. And looking online a quick harvest and smaller plants sound appealing for someone doing a stealth grow. I went and bought like 60 Mephisto and NightOwl beans without ever growing shit. That was a stupid move that I regret. But at the time I was thinking I have alot of money right now and if I buy a bunch of beans I can safely grow for years. Or if the world goes to shit, kinda like flu. I wanted to make sure I had beans to grow so I had something to smoke . LolWhat are the reasons for growing auto as opposed to photoperiod? It is just because it's easier? Or faster? Are there advantages? Is it just convenience? How do the genetics stack up? What is the market for autos?
Mine is a 10 x 20 structure. I have a large attic fan for intake ventilation. I have a matching attic fan at the other end to move all that air outside the greenhouse. I have 2 18" oscillating fans and I still don't have enough air flow. I have 4 more 18" oscillating fans I will be adding this year. If those leaves are always moving, you won't get powdery mildew.
You start inside so they can grow vigorous and healthy in a controlled environment, so they can thrive outside. They have to be so mature to even show thier sex as well. I usually start indoors mid March-ish. They don't go out till there's just shy of 15 hours of light. They have to be hardened off so they don't get shocked. It's usually around memorial day when I plant. They will continue veg for about another month or so, this is why you get monsters that grow pounds outdoors. The summer solstice is June 21st, daylight starts to decrease. The plants will sense this over the next few weeks and naturally flip to flower, when exactly that happens is dependent on genetics.and just out of curiosity, what difference does it make if you start a photo inside?
you still need the 12/12 cycle to trigger flowering do you not?
i guess the hard and true outside photo guys here are from down south?
What's the yield on those?so in conclusion autos are perfect for window sills
running a 100w light for 3months.. whats the yield on those
i can understand that ok someone wants to get into growing with the purchase of a seed and light bag of soil and hopefully some nutrition.my recommendation remains run a photo indoor for veg if the season is shit and go plant it outdoor when its looking brighter outside. this will atleast yield something. better yet, plant during sowing season and let it spend its entire cycle outside. go for indica if its a short season. ive seen autos, heard the complaints, my opinion on them will never change but its interesting to figure out why someone will want to grow them
Right. Many people have a tiny space and no other options. Not everyone has access to a location outside to grow @GreenGalaxyFarm ... what are folks in cities supposed to do, say NYC... living in a tiny apartment, no place to vent or even put a tent a lot of times... grow in central park maybe? Lol. Some people need small and quick and I think that's where autos are the answer. For experienced growers that have the time and space to do photos, well that's what they should do. Weed is weed when it comes down to that or no weed, or buying dispo weed... rather have a homegrown auto than a commercial monster photo that wasn't cared for, dried or cured to my standards.What's the yield on those?
This isn't a comparison of a yield on a photo plant to a yield on an auto plant. It's a comparison of a yield on no plants to a yield on a plant or two. I'd say plants produce more weed than no plants.
I've grown outdoors in:and just out of curiosity, what difference does it make if you start a photo inside?
you still need the 12/12 cycle to trigger flowering do you not?
i guess the hard and true outside photo guys here are from down south?
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