Is curing in jars bullshit and a way to justify wrongly dryd buds

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Aqua Man

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Dai said:
OK mate

If people read through the comments they will understand that I only made this thread to get people interest to get som good strains on the scene lol I know jarring it cures it I just like winding hot heads up lol
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No hot heads you made the claim that what @Burned Haze said was bullshit. I think you are wrong but I won't speak for others. It's they manner in which you said this that I took offensive. By all means your opinion is your opinion but if your gonna talk shit about someone else's then you need to back that up which I don't think you can. I think if you responded in a more appropriate manner a more civilized response from others is what you would have seen.

It's all in the delivery dude. Any which way going forward I agree with everything @Burned Haze said not that it needs any validation and most with experience would easily see that.
 
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Dai said:
OK mate

If people read through the comments they will understand that I only made this thread to get people interest to get som good strains on the scene lol I know jarring it cures it I just like winding hot heads up lol
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Ahh, I see your true colors shining through!
Best go back and read The Farms TOS before you wreck yourself!! Happy growing:)

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Mate I been growing it for 12 years don't tell me about experience lol
 
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I want to know
1diesel1 said:
Ahh, I see your true colors shining through!
Best go back and read The Farms TOS before you wreck yourself!! Happy growing:)

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Why the bud smells like hay after it's been in a jar when it's stinks when it was hanging up I've seen loads of people say about it plus I can't keep my bud long enough to cure it in jars lol I'm not trolling any one or being abusive I just don't understand how putting it in jars makes it better fair enough bacteria breaking down chlorophyll but imo if the plant is done tidy and dryd tidy it shouldn't be much if any chlorophyll left in the plant my opinion but like I said I've never done it
 
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1diesel1 said:
Ahh, I see your true colors shining through!
Best go back and read The Farms TOS before you wreck yourself!! Happy growing:)

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Look back on Page 9 of this thread..I called troll back then..
Now I have to unwatch the thread all over again, while the OP tries to bow out to get around the picture requests..LMAO
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Jimster

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Dai said:
Whiskey gets its flavour from the wooden barrels and wine is totally different to weed and so is cheese plus all them are bacteria cannabis isn't so what sense does tha make like
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While cheese and the others rely on bacteria, the bacteria produce specific enzymes that greatly influence the flavor as well as the amounts of certain materials that indirectly influence flavor/taste/smell, and in some cases, the conversion of non reactive compounds into more reactive isomers. Enzymes do it all, unless you get fungus/mold. It is caused by anerobic characters, but the changes are caused by the enzymes they produce. Curing simply uses these enzymes to remove the chlorophyll from the buds and do away with some of the chlorophyll taste. It is a personal choice as to what the finished product should be like. Some like fresh and green, some like it smooth and mellow. There is no wrong answer.
 
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MIMedGrower said:
Some people have 20 years of experience.

Some people have 1 year of experience repeated 20 times.



Quoted from my first sales manager when I was a noob salesperson.
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I frickin love this quote. Stop learning and growing, fuk me... I'm dead. the only way to continue improving at anything is to drop the ego and be open to discussion without getting overly defensive about "your" view on the matter. Hubris will only give you what you've always got. And more often than not, a foot in the mouth to go with it.
 
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I recently built a curing room that’s constantly kept at 55° and 60% humidity. I never cure for less than 3 months. And yes it makes a massive difference.

A few years ago I had a blueberry bush that nobody wanted the first couple of months it was in the cure, but as soon as it hit four months, everybody was on that shit. It disappeared in a week.

I don’t know what happened to it chemically, but it went from mediocre to absolutely fucking sensational after four months.

Regarding the curing room, I discovered that hanging the plants in the curing room without removing anything produced even better results than jar curing. I’m assuming this is because they had constant oxygen and the chlorophyll was able to constantly degas.

The first plant that I discovered this with was a clone of a plant that I had jar cured previously three times. None of them smelled anywhere near as good as the plant that came out of the curing room. It had unreal terps. All the iterations smelled incredible, but that fourth iteration took the terpenes to the next level.

So long is your curing environment has the right temperature and humidity, then you’re in good shape. And I’ve cured for 12+ months. Absolutely there’s a difference.

I also discovered that curing for so long at room temperature, you end up with buds that have mostly lost their green color, but curing for 12 months or more at 55° the bud stays just as green as it was when it went in. Absolutely there’s a difference. Just another little fact I found.

I’ve since repeated my curing room experiment several times, and every time the terps come out way better than jar curing.
 
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Dai said:
I want to know

Why the bud smells like hay after it's been in a jar when it's stinks when it was hanging up I've seen loads of people say about it plus I can't keep my bud long enough to cure it in jars lol I'm not trolling any one or being abusive I just don't understand how putting it in jars makes it better fair enough bacteria breaking down chlorophyll but imo if the plant is done tidy and dryd tidy it shouldn't be much if any chlorophyll left in the plant my opinion but like I said I've never done it
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There’s a lot of Chlorophyll left in the buds prior to curing. Getting the microbes to remove it is one of the primary points of curing in both cannabis and tobacco.

Tobacco is cured hanging and isn’t jarred, which is where I got the idea to build a temperature and humidity controlled curing room. I just used drywall to box off the corner of one of the rooms in my basement. 5x5. That’s all it is. But it’s one of the best things I’ve ever done for the quality of my flowers.

Incidentally, I tried wet trimming and slow drying/curing in the curing room with an identical player hanging nearby for the same amount of time. While the wet trimmed buds did come out nicely, they weren’t anywhere near as good as the full plant hung for 3 months. That’s how long I cure everything I grow. Never less than three months.
 
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Jimster said:
While cheese and the others rely on bacteria, the bacteria produce specific enzymes that greatly influence the flavor as well as the amounts of certain materials that indirectly influence flavor/taste/smell, and in some cases, the conversion of non reactive compounds into more reactive isomers. Enzymes do it all, unless you get fungus/mold. It is caused by anerobic characters, but the changes are caused by the enzymes they produce. Curing simply uses these enzymes to remove the chlorophyll from the buds and do away with some of the chlorophyll taste. It is a personal choice as to what the finished product should be like. Some like fresh and green, some like it smooth and mellow. There is no wrong answer.
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It’s actually mostly aerobic bacteria that are responsible for the cure. That’s why the curing buds need oxygen, especially in the first 3-4 weeks. Anaerobic curing is what happened in the bricks of Mexican Schwag that were pressed and wrapped in plastic while the plants were still wet. The two methods of curing result in entirely different effects. Anaerobically cured bud is actually preferred by some people, and is one of the reasons that Mexican brick week had some of the unique effects it had. Although I haven’t known where to find any since the 90s so ....
 
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Dai said:
I've never jard it and it's tasty and buzzing asf everytime. I believe people who say they're stuff needs to be cured they just use it as an excuse to justify they're wrongly dryd cannabis which smells like hay because the chlorophyll has absorbed on to the plant because people believe not to have a fan blowing lightly on the buds but I believe by having it blowing over the plants lightly so they moving a little bit so it evaporates the chlorophyll from the plant instead of it absorbing into the plant where they are just hanging with no air being blown through them
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After initially drying sealing it in msson jars/vaccumed air tight prevents OXYGEN FROM DESTROYING THC. ALSO KEEP IT IN THE DARK.
I'M A MASTER GROWER, MY TOTAL SUCCESS IS FROM CPR
NO GUESS WORK, ALL I DO IS TRIM AND WATER. GROWING CANNIBIS IS NOT GENIUS WORK. CPR/5-GALLONS $45
 
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MIMedGrower said:
Some people have 20 years of experience.

Some people have 1 year of experience repeated 20 times.



Quoted from my first sales manager when I was a noob salesperson.
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I don't have much experience growing cannabis. But as the statement goes it's the quality of knowledge gained and I have an addiction to knowledge... It freakin sucks
Compost Man said:
After initially drying sealing it in msson jars/vaccumed air tight prevents OXYGEN FROM DESTROYING THC. ALSO KEEP IT IN THE DARK.
I'M A MASTER GROWER, MY TOTAL SUCCESS IS FROM CPR
NO GUESS WORK, ALL I DO IS TRIM AND WATER. GROWING CANNIBIS IS NOT GENIUS WORK. CPR/5-GALLONS $45
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It is this oxidization that degrades the thca that also increases the CBD and terpenoids correct? Unlike light degradation.

So a happy medium or users preference is kind of at play here?

I'm being genuine.
 
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