If its not Organic! 100% its just any other drug

[Glassdub]

Who gives a shit...

Big organic shills & fertilizer salesmen.

 

[Glassdub]

And the difference between hydroponic greenhouse tomatoes and grandmas garden tomatoes is natural unfiltered sunlight and personal care. Not fertilizer method.

Exactly

 

[02trueblue]

I'll tell you my organic, outdoor buds get me more "body stoned/lethargic/couch locked"... but that's all I know! They're way "heavier" than my indoor, coco grown ones. Maybe it's just me, who knows. Some actual science would be cool

 

[Glassdub]

I'll tell you my organic, outdoor buds get me more "body stoned/lethargic/couch locked"... but that's all I know! They're way "heavier" than my indoor, coco grown ones. Maybe it's just me, who knows. Some actual science would be cool

Couch lock is a big minus in my book.

 

[02trueblue]

Couch lock is a big minus in my book.

damn, for real? I love a good stone. As such is weed lol it's so personal

 

[CannasaurusR]

And the difference between hydroponic greenhouse tomatoes and grandmas garden tomatoes is natural unfiltered sunlight and personal care. Not fertilizer method.

Here I thought it was because commercially bred multihybrid big fruit tomatoes, couldn't compare with Grannies Heirloom Tomatoes grown with the local terrior? Ima throwin out those seeds, sobeys sells beefsteak way cheaper. LOL

 

[MIMedGrower]

Here I thought it was because commercially bred multihybrid big fruit tomatoes, couldn't compare with Grannies Heirloom Tomatoes grown with the local terrior? Ima throwin out those seeds, sobeys sells beefsteak way cheaper. LOL

Well there is always genetics but environment and grower skill and attention still greatly influence the results.

2 growers with the same diesel cut can yield very different results. Or with a commercial white widow seed. Still one could come out awesome and one average.

 

[CannasaurusR]

OK best organic grower and best nute grower here, I will send you both free seeds. Grow your best way an send finished nugs to Cannasaurusrex. I will conduct a double blind taste test and send nugs for quantitative analysis, to the person on the left side of the couch. We will report back with our conclusions. that's enuff stience for everyone here...right? PM for my addy pls.

 

[MIMedGrower]

OK best organic grower and best nute grower here, I will send you both free seeds. Grow your best way an send finished nugs to Cannasaurusrex. I will conduct a double blind taste test and send nugs for quantitative analysis, to the person on the left side of the couch. We will report back with our conclusions. that's enuff stience for everyone here...right? PM for my addy pls.

We tried that with the same grower (me) and no one could pick which was which reliably. Including me. And im picky as hell. :-)

 

[CannasaurusR]

2 growers with the same diesel cut can yield very different results.

Totally agree, most of these debates are subjective. Preferences and habits are more whats being 'debated'. Heck I can get 2 different outcomes with clones in the same medium, We even noticed differences this year when two outdoor clones were getting direct light at different times during the day!! If your method isn't wasteful and polluting, then its the best..

 

[MIMedGrower]

Totally agree, most of these debates are subjective. Preferences and habits are more whats being 'debated'. Heck I can get 2 different outcomes with clones in the same medium, We even noticed differences this year when two outdoor clones were getting direct light at different times during the day!! If your method isn't wasteful and polluting, then its the best..

All of that Im sure we can agree on. :-)

 

[BigCube]

It's been done in laboratory conditions, by actual scientists with peer review and reproduced many times.

Organic grows just dont like the results.

 

[CannasaurusR]

We tried that with the same grower (me) and no one could pick which was which reliably. Including me. And im picky as hell. :-)

I think everyone except those with certain "sensitivities" would find the same thing. You just blew my 'conclusion' to the 'study'......it was already prepared....'We can't tell the difference, send MORE'. The OP,though provocative, is really trying to quantify the amount of 'goodness' in the weed compared to 'filler' basically? Yes there are many studies on nutritive value in traditional vs. modern food production, the main point gets muddled in math. Traditional farming cannot keep up with modern farming outputwise, so we get a catch 22 between feeding 10 people nice organic heirloom veggies vs, feeding 100 people with a modern hybrid. Hard to focus on nutitive value differences, when quantity is the key. Sellers grow big bud, growers grow high quality genetics, Tomato/tomatoe.

 

[MIMedGrower]

It's been done in laboratory conditions, by actual scientists with peer review and reproduced many times.

Organic grows just dont like the results.

Well i love to hate being devils advocate but here is a test on chile peppers that clearly showed adding organic input increased the growth rate and yield.

But i still want to know what it does for our plant. I have been growing in an organic base and fertilizing supplementary in flower for years. Now im switching to promix hp and feeding pure blend pro for all nutrients. Will it be that different? If I try jacks nutes only will it be that different?

No one could tell reliably 3 or 4 years ago but im a better grower now.

Impact of Organic Manure on Growth, Nutrient Content and Yield of Chilli Pepper under Various Temperature Environments

Expected climatic changes likely elicit serious challenges for crop production. Therefore, it is indispensable to investigate the response of crop growth parameters and yield under temperature variability environments. The current experiment on chilli ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[bunkerking]

Impact of N, P, K, and Humic Acid Supplementation on the Chemical Profile of Medical Cannabis (Cannabis sativa L)

Mineral nutrition is a major factor affecting plant growth and function. Increasing evidence supports the involvement of macro and micronutrients in secondary metabolism. The use of the appropriate nutritional measures including organic fertilizers, supplements, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Humic acid reduces thc and terps. But makes the levels more consistent.

All these theories for other plants are being debunked with real studies on cannabis.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

[MIMedGrower]

Impact of N, P, K, and Humic Acid Supplementation on the Chemical Profile of Medical Cannabis (Cannabis sativa L)

Mineral nutrition is a major factor affecting plant growth and function. Increasing evidence supports the involvement of macro and micronutrients in secondary metabolism. The use of the appropriate nutritional measures including organic fertilizers, supplements, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Humic acid reduces thc and terps. But makes the levels more consistent.

All these theories for other plants are being debunked with real studies on cannabis.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

More reason to skip the pk booster. Too much phosphorous is not good.

 

[BigCube]

Well i love to hate being devils advocate but here is a test on chile peppers that clearly showed adding organic input increased the growth rate and yield.

But i still want to know what it does for our plant. I have been growing in an organic base and fertilizing supplementary in flower for years. Now im switching to promix hp and feeding pure blend pro for all nutrients. Will it be that different? If I try jacks nutes only will it be that different?

No one could tell reliably 3 or 4 years ago but im a better grower now.

Impact of Organic Manure on Growth, Nutrient Content and Yield of Chilli Pepper under Various Temperature Environments

Expected climatic changes likely elicit serious challenges for crop production. Therefore, it is indispensable to investigate the response of crop growth parameters and yield under temperature variability environments. The current experiment on chilli ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Just read the study. They do not compare it to "chemical" nutrients. At all..

The study basically says, giving the plant organic fertilizers is better than not giving them any..

At no point in this article do they compare it to regular nutrients.

Therefore it proves nothing I havent already admitted.

 

[MIMedGrower]

Just read the study. They do not compare it to "chemical" nutrients. At all..

The study basically says, giving the plant organic fertilizers is better than not giving them any..

At no point in this article do they compare it to regular nutrients.

Therefore it proves nothing I havent already admitted.

Pretty sure they listed base nutrients used. But i am tired from snow shoveling and kind of stoned. :-)

 

[BigCube]

Our goal in this study was to evaluate the effect of 1× rate (132.7 kg ha−1) and 2× rate (265.4 kg ha−1) livestock manure treatments compared to control (without manure) on the growth and yield parameters of chilli peppers grown under three different environmental conditions such as a plastic greenhouse, rain-shelter plastic house, and open field conditions.

 

[bunkerking]

More reason to skip the pk booster. Too much phosphorous is not good.

Agreed. It's a great article. Hope you all read it .