My babies isnt growing right

[Frankster]

Should i use 70% or 99% alcohol?
ive never heard of spraying plants with alcohol until now. Should i use my mister or should i soak the plants w them? The trees will be ok after spraying? No future buds will be harmed?

No, you should get some pure crop 1 and call it a day, IMO. Or that and some benifical mites.
Prure crop 1 will eliminate the mites, and they won't be back. Plus, it will protect your plants against PM molds, and actually work as a biostimulant, instead of killing the plant.

Alcohol is going to melt your trichomes and destroy the THC, IMO. Furthermore, It will make the plant more susceptible to disease, and strip it's cells of it's protective lipid layers. It's an old remedy,(that's got some merit) but needs to go into the dust bin. There are simply better methods these days.

 

[Flexnerb]

This is too much. It's only a plant. This is not the end of the world.
And it is very fixable. Calm the freak down and smoke a couple.

Treat your plant according to the instructions I posted already.
It will be fine.

If he cares about yield and bud quality...that infestation if not correctly taken care of is going to cause serious future issues...ive seen it on these forums a bunch..people thinkmoh yeah imdont see them then they let their gaird down and weeks later theyre singing the same tune....what happened to my babies! Its been the song of the year since 2015..lol

I say alcohol first then what comfortably numb said....give them a knock down kick there numbers back then the take down. If this product works id like to see this....usually its sulfur stay in veg til you dont see any then flower and hope and pray....

Learn its life cycle and how to break that down....sulfur sulfur sulfur its really the best way non chem wise anyways

 

[Flexnerb]

Actually, there's a lot of evidence that mites increase THC content. Granted, it might kill the plant, but some of those buds I had when I had mites were some of the most potent I have ever grown.

Ive read they like certain terpenes and chemicals inside the plant. Wonder if the toxin the inject has any thing to do with this....certain cultivars seem to get hit badly by these guys...ogs for sure cause they accumulate the Mg.

What were the varietals this happened with?

 

[Flexnerb]

No, you should get some pure crop 1 and call it a day, IMO. Or that and some benifical mites.
Prure crop 1 will eliminate the mites, and they won't be back. Plus, it will protect your plants against PM molds, and actually work as a biostimulant, instead of killing the plant.

Alcohol is going to melt your trichomes and destroy the THC, IMO.

My friend has used pure ceop1 and nothing. There still there hiding in the apicals..lol....you cant get them in there

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

We live in Hawaii. We have every bug on the planet making reservations here. But we stay on top of it so the only thing we have ever had were fungus gnats (no biggie) and some aphids we killed. If we can keep our grow clean, anyone can.

 

[Flexnerb]

Next up is vinegar and peroxide. Ph'd to 3! Low ph water supposedly kills spider mites. We'll see if this kills them....its sulfur after this.

 

[Frankster]

Spider mite i see....are all those white things the russets?

The crawlers, wiith the black spots are full sized adults. The smaller sized ones are larva, protonymph, deutonymph... The stationery spots are eggs... Basically, the all the stages are there, so take a good look.

 

[Flexnerb]

Actually, there's a lot of evidence that mites increase THC content. Granted, it might kill the plant, but some of those buds I had when I had mites were some of the most potent I have ever grown.

Th9s mite puts a t9xin in the plant that retards growth so it can hasten the plants death... SOMEONE BRED THESE TOMDOMTHIS! Who know who did....leagalise it after introducing a bug that will fuck it up. Have consumers chasing their tails amd spending money...its funny guys real funny

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Cripes. Just get a flame thrower and BURN'EM ALL OUT! (psychotic laughing fades into the distance)

 

[Flexnerb]

The crawlers, wiith the black spots are full sized adults. The smaller sized ones are larva, protonymph, deutonymph... The stationery spots are eggs... Basically, the all the stages are there, so take a good look.

When did russets have black spots? Theyre tan whitish color.

 

[Flexnerb]

Cripes. Just get a flame thrower and BURN'EM ALL OUT! (psychotic laughing fades into the distance)

No your talked about product will do good....this guy has a full blown 8nfestation man..he didnt know about as most people who have dealt with these for the first time have no clue til its well into its being...

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Marvel's Mutant Mites!

 

[Frankster]

My friend has used pure ceop1 and nothing. There still there hiding in the apicals..lol....you cant get them in there

I would say he probably wasn't diligent enough then. Mites love the backs of leaves, so spraying the back sides are really important, and doing it on an ongoing basis. Purecorp kills the mites on multiple, multiple levels.

It dissolves the eggs, it dissolves the exoskelletons, it blocks enzyme production to digest food, and it's a surfactant, so it will penetrate even the tightest of buds, and saturate the plant, if it's applied correctly. I had mite perpetually for over 5 years straight, and killed them forever in 3 weeks with this stuff.

If it's really bad, I suggest putting it in a garbage can, filling it to the top and dunk the plants one at a time... Then spray the fuck outta the walls, the floors, everything.... Mites will even take up in the cracks of walls.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

No your talked about product will do good....this guy has a full blown 8nfestation man..he didnt know about as most people who have dealt with these for the first time have no clue til its well into its being...

It was a joke to point out how overly extreme the thread was getting. Gotta calm it down.

 

[Aqua Man]

Just one point but I'm not a bug treatment guy.... these are russet mites not spider mites so I'm ot sure if the treatment is different. I do know azamax is effective but also should rotate treatments to ensure you actually kill them and that they are developing resistances so that's important.

 

[Frankster]

Azamax is a good product no doubt, depending on the developmental level of the plants. should be excellent while still in veg, or shortly after. Is not doubt these little critters are the bane of cannabis, they are indeed difficult to eradicate with virtually any measures. The key is really staying on top of them. Everyday or every other day, until it's done.

Even a simple garden hose, or taking them into the shower and blowing them off the undersides really helps tremendously.

My regime was basically blasting them in the shower (I've got a hand held massager type) kinda flipping the plant to it's side so I can blast the undersides.... Then take them out and hit them with the treatment...

You've got to break that bug cycle, then you have them defeated. Kicking the adults to the curb, so they cannot replicate, then either killing the eggs, or killing them as they hatch, ect..

If I were to use alcohol (which I have), I would suggest not going higher than say 25% total volume (ie. standard 50% solution diluted half with water). It's totally possible to spray them, get yourself a magnifying glass, and watch the die off, verifying if the treatment is effective or not...

If it's effective, they will die in minuets, hours, not days.... You will see the bodies pile up.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

You guyz don't even give them fair trials? I mean, how fair is that? They're just trying to feed their ever growing family....

 

[Flexnerb]

Just one point but I'm not a bug treatment guy.... these are russet mites not spider mites so I'm ot sure if the treatment is different. I do know azamax is effective but also should rotate treatments to ensure you actually kill them and that they are developing resistances so that's important.

Anything neem is only going to slow'em down anything non systemic will just push them into hiding in the apicals...you have to coax them out...i have no clue on that one....Alcohol will knock the fuck outta them then what comf is saying to use...kecin jordey was having some good results with enzymes but didnt want to further explain....enzymes force them to molt at this point (there moltung process is like no other it happens quick 15 minutes is this normal? I think i read 15 mins.) They can dry out or drown very easily. Take your choice of the two. Thing that sucks there isnt alot of literature out there on them. Farkas from the 60's and a serbian study in like 2001 or close to that year...ill post some links guys hold on

 

[Aqua Man]

I know @1diesel1 knows what's up in treating these... seen him turn an apocalypse into a heavenly garden. Possibly he may contribute his $0.02 if we ask nicely.

 

[Flexnerb]

I know @1diesel1 knows what's up in treating these... seen him turn an apocalypse into a heavenly garden. Possibly he may contribute his $0.02 if we ask nicely.

I think enzymes are going to be the ticket for eradication of this bug or ACC inhibitors!