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Grow Room design-RDWC questions and ideas

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#81
I staged a photo op for some scale. I know I could have grown this one a lot more horizontally if I didnt have to fit it w two others in my tent. I have two clones of her growing now and the best one was gonna get the inaugural ride.
 

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#82
Rock and roll man!
Nice build, I have a 60 gallon sump/ refugium for my reef tank under my stairs.
Lights and all..
Build to fit..
NICE! 💪
I have not scrogged but I think it will do you well.
 
#83
steamroller said:
Rock and roll man!
Nice build, I have a 60 gallon sump/ refugium for my reef tank under my stairs.
Lights and all..
Build to fit..
NICE! 💪
I have not scrogged but I think it will do you well.
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You got some pics? I love custom built anything. I spent 15 years doing custom AV work when I was younger and cant do anything without building it in somehow lol.
 
#84
Cashmeh said:
I would focus alot on your nutrient lineup and how you would combat root rot. We can all tell you how to tune your system, but it will be based upon how we run ours. I would stick with the most common design plans, but I would put a focus on gallons per plant. The higher your system holding capacity, the less you have to maintain it. If your doing frequent res changes on a sterile system or live system, the holding capacity isnt as big of a deal. I never run below 10 gallons per plant. So if you have 5 plants, system capacity minimum should be 50 gallons. Most hydro growers run h2o2 with a chiller in a sterile system. Sterile systems are by far the most popular umong hydro growers. To sum it up, its ran like a pool. You use additives to break down the cell walls of the microbes. In a live system its ran more like a lake. We add natural bacteria that will combat the pythium that plagues hydro systems. You can run it at warmer water temps with no chiller. I run live, and only a few others on here run live. So if I tell you what I think you should do, it might conflict with what someone else running a sterile system will tell you. You cannot add h2o2 to a live system and you cannot add bacteria to a sterile system. Since your asking for advice, make sure your specific on your goals. I personally have set some unique goals and have achieved them. I would not recommend taking my path without full dedication lol. Now you can run it like other people run their live system too. Most people do res changes, I do not. I go 2 months and my ppms are at about 500 at the end of the grow, and my res has been sucked dry by the plant leaving only about 20% of the solution, aka 5 gallons per plant grown, to be pumped down the drain. I dont use corrosives on my root system, I dont like running the water at temps lower than 72f due to a personal belief it slows growth. I dont add enzymes because I dont use corrosives and I dont need nutrients rebonded, I dont need enzymes that are not bonded left in the res. I personally grow like no one else, so take it with a grain of salt, I got haters, I got lovers lol. . Personally if your dedicated and dont wanna pump shit outside, and you dont wanna damage the roots with corrosives, and you dont wanna run a chiller. . id say go live. I have a thread where I helped "ispy" do his first live grow. He was happy I think lol . .Basically, let me also state this. The chances of messing up is extremely high, in both systems. So no matter what you do, learn from it and go forward. My profile is viewable and urge you to click some of these links so you know im not full of shit.
We also debate and argue, not just me. . but if theres something above I said wrong, im sure I will have to defend it very very soon. No one holds back bro, so just read and study what those have done just as much as what they say. No one wants to actually watch you fail, we all just have conflicting methods on how you should do it. Its your job to sift through it all and pick your path.
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Super interesting. Do you use tea? If so do you only feed it for the whole grow or do you periodically add fresh tea. My experiences with 'live' have been great and awful. I would much prefer it but sterile has been more consistent for me.
 
#85
Cashmeh said:
I would focus alot on your nutrient lineup and how you would combat root rot. We can all tell you how to tune your system, but it will be based upon how we run ours. I would stick with the most common design plans, but I would put a focus on gallons per plant. The higher your system holding capacity, the less you have to maintain it. If your doing frequent res changes on a sterile system or live system, the holding capacity isnt as big of a deal. I never run below 10 gallons per plant. So if you have 5 plants, system capacity minimum should be 50 gallons. Most hydro growers run h2o2 with a chiller in a sterile system. Sterile systems are by far the most popular umong hydro growers. To sum it up, its ran like a pool. You use additives to break down the cell walls of the microbes. In a live system its ran more like a lake. We add natural bacteria that will combat the pythium that plagues hydro systems. You can run it at warmer water temps with no chiller. I run live, and only a few others on here run live. So if I tell you what I think you should do, it might conflict with what someone else running a sterile system will tell you. You cannot add h2o2 to a live system and you cannot add bacteria to a sterile system. Since your asking for advice, make sure your specific on your goals. I personally have set some unique goals and have achieved them. I would not recommend taking my path without full dedication lol. Now you can run it like other people run their live system too. Most people do res changes, I do not. I go 2 months and my ppms are at about 500 at the end of the grow, and my res has been sucked dry by the plant leaving only about 20% of the solution, aka 5 gallons per plant grown, to be pumped down the drain. I dont use corrosives on my root system, I dont like running the water at temps lower than 72f due to a personal belief it slows growth. I dont add enzymes because I dont use corrosives and I dont need nutrients rebonded, I dont need enzymes that are not bonded left in the res. I personally grow like no one else, so take it with a grain of salt, I got haters, I got lovers lol. . Personally if your dedicated and dont wanna pump shit outside, and you dont wanna damage the roots with corrosives, and you dont wanna run a chiller. . id say go live. I have a thread where I helped "ispy" do his first live grow. He was happy I think lol . .Basically, let me also state this. The chances of messing up is extremely high, in both systems. So no matter what you do, learn from it and go forward. My profile is viewable and urge you to click some of these links so you know im not full of shit.
We also debate and argue, not just me. . but if theres something above I said wrong, im sure I will have to defend it very very soon. No one holds back bro, so just read and study what those have done just as much as what they say. No one wants to actually watch you fail, we all just have conflicting methods on how you should do it. Its your job to sift through it all and pick your path.
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More breaks in your post with paragraphs, even double space?
 
#86
woof said:
Super interesting. Do you use tea? If so do you only feed it for the whole grow or do you periodically add fresh tea. My experiences with 'live' have been great and awful. I would much prefer it but sterile has been more consistent for me.
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I do not use any teas. My ingredients are as follows. Calmag, Flora Micro, Flora bloom, Athena balance, Ph down. . .I do not use bloom boosters, i do not add BBS, no enzymes, no chiller. . nothing but the basics for me, and its so much easier.
I dont care if people run live or sterile. I would just like to inform people that Sterile systems are not good for the plants. Plants do not like peroxide or h2o2. From the looks of it, plants dont like sitting in 68F water either. Just my thoughts, but im quite positive the Number 1 problem with the world is we are at war with microbes. Im just sick of watching people kill microbes and wonder why they cant sustain good growth or have issues.
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More breaks in your post with paragraphs, even double space?
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My life is one big paragraph, one rant, never ending, just compounding.
 
#88
Do you guys run your pumps in the reservoir or do they heat up the water or other issues?
 
#90
Cool_Beans said:
Do you guys run your pumps in the reservoir or do they heat up the water or other issues?
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The main water pump that runs the fallponics in my system is outside the res running inline but the pump that circulates water to the chiller is inside the res because I need to hard plumb it in after this grow is finished. I think they add heat whether or not they are actually working as a submersible or inline.....the submersible might add a tad more would be my guess.
 
#91
I'm gonna guess 15-25% of wattage in will be lost to heat.

Keeping the pump external helps. Most of the heat will be pushed into the air. If submerged, you will put that energy in the water.
 
#92
From the fish hobby I will introduce you all to DC powered digitally controlled pumps.
Many sizes from big to small and digitally controlled, meaning if you want less flow you dial down power input as opposed to mechanically restricting a pump that runs at the same draw the whole time. 🤷‍♂️
Being DC there is a power switcher/transformer that can be remotely placed moving most the heat.
I use them submerged for 5 years now. My 15000 pushes close to 1500GPH with 8 feet head through a 1 1/2 inch pvc.
The average in water pump [ like say a Danner Mag pro] adds 4-6 degrees above room temp to sumps.
 
#93
Ok good info, thank you. Trying to limit the holes in the buckets below waterline to the 2 drain holes, plus keep everything accessible from topside so I can swap things easily. Unless I get lucky w my ambient temps under the bench actually being able to keep water temps in check, I assumed I will need a chiller anyway. I left space for one off the end of the bench next to the little reservoir station.
 
#94
steamroller said:
From the fish hobby I will introduce you all to DC powered digitally controlled pumps.
Many sizes from big to small and digitally controlled, meaning if you want less flow you dial down power input as opposed to mechanically restricting a pump that runs at the same draw the whole time. 🤷‍♂️
Being DC there is a power switcher/transformer that can be remotely placed moving most the heat.
I use them submerged for 5 years now. My 15000 pushes close to 1500GPH with 8 feet head through a 1 1/2 inch pvc.
The average in water pump [ like say a Danner Mag pro] adds 4-6 degrees above room temp to sumps.
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Oh nice. Thats a great solution. Thank you.
 
#95
steamroller said:
From the fish hobby I will introduce you all to DC powered digitally controlled pumps.
Many sizes from big to small and digitally controlled, meaning if you want less flow you dial down power input as opposed to mechanically restricting a pump that runs at the same draw the whole time. 🤷‍♂️
Being DC there is a power switcher/transformer that can be remotely placed moving most the heat.
I use them submerged for 5 years now. My 15000 pushes close to 1500GPH with 8 feet head through a 1 1/2 inch pvc.
The average in water pump [ like say a Danner Mag pro] adds 4-6 degrees above room temp to sumps.
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Nice pump. I’ll make that the next upgrade. I need to restructure my res anyhow.
 
#97
Been knocking out odds and ends and waiting for parts. Got a bunch of stuff showing up today, if all goes well I can leak test the plumbing and put some water through it this weekend. Tds/ph/temp monitor coming Tuesday so I can start getting some baselines. I have a rj11 adapter coming for using the AC Infinity controller w my light, as well as two of their UIS controlled outlets for my humidifier and 500w space heater. I have one of their UIS circulation fans, but it mostly sits there on the same speed so I'm not sure I really need it taking up a control slot.

Once I get this space squared away I can focus on getting an RO system and top off res setup outside the room. My garage utility sink plumbing runs through nearby so I can tie in there.
 
#98
It works! Yessss..So far no leaks! The little digital pump is killer too, its whisper quiet and zero vibration. I'm gonna let this go overnight then drain it so I can get the rest of the painting and insulation done. Phew..
 

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