My 1 question is with LED's is take a 4x8 table or tent. Anyone pulling over 4lbs off 1 table/tent with LED's
personally not someone claiming to be on a video? That has been a tried a true standard with HPS for a decade or more with old SE tech not even DE. Then take the cost. We are talking like 300-500 bucks to setup a 2k room for constant lbs for me buying used equip hell even new I would tack on another maybe 200 bucks for 2k. Lets also not gloss over the fact that if you build your HPS ballast like people who build their LED setups you start talking stupid cheap. I'm not saying they aren't comparable. I'm saying that I hear how they are comparable, and people always argue how they are comparable or even better, but I hardly have ever actually seen it. Now is the time. Lets see it. If the cost was cheaper then I would be on board (see what I did there) but at the current price I would always just go strait to 315's without much thought. I have seen COBs hit around the same but the initial cost setting those up is more expensive then 315's to get the same thing.
Listen this isn't someone pissing in your pool. Don't get all twisted and think you are getting called out. This is a conversation. Just throw it up for a comparison. Larger scale stuff. I've been on the fence to throw them in one of my rooms and give them a whirl for a year or 2. I just haven't been convinced enough to do so yet whether its yield or the quality of the finished product vs cost.
@Burned Haze &
@sixstring are about the only dudes I have seen doing it at that scale and hitting numbers and quality but they both have a serious investment into the equipment where initial cost wasn't really a factor which I respect. I think newer growers sometimes get steered in the wrong direction by everyones claims as you have seen from some people above but everyone is different. It's not like LED's are blowing HPS out of the water yet where there is no comparison. And we are talking old old tech vs tech that in maybe the last 4 years has finally caught up hence why the price is still so high. Why HPS is still a good option since its so cheap. Be real if you talk about getting the Chinese knockoff's and some are good do you not think they also make HPS stuff for cheap? Let's also not discount the STRAIT UP lies and misinformation the LED people pushed for years (and still are which is why we see at least 1 thread a day about this ) when the tech wasnt there and how many people got strait up ripped for trying to be an early adopter. If you have been around we all knew people who bought $2k UFO's that pulled the same as a 400w HPS. Buying/building a 1k HPS ballast will give you a 1k light no matter what. Hell even consider a $30 knock off bulb vs a $60-120
hortilux. The yield difference is small since the tech has been around so long and copied we are in a good spot.
I just wish more people would look at everything else in their grows the same way they go over and over with the lights dealing with spectrum, cost, heat ect with something like nutes that will be a bigger cost in the long run for them but strangely you get preaching about LED's and then they use 9 bottles of Advanced or running the full Canna or H&G line and make weekly trips to a hydro shop. Makes people like me scratch their heads.