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What are the main things people dont like about the proposed bill.
I have never heard anybody but myself bring up this important fact.
There is NO INFRASTRUCTURE / MACHINERY / TRAINED WORKFORCE to make this happen. Cannabis for smoking is a very specialized crop, hemp machinery just jams up and breaks down. I really doubt it would happen for at least 1-2 years even after any kind of legalization bill passed.
anyone have a link to the exact bill? the house bill that was voted on wasnt that bad, but everyone here hated that too. im sure its somewhat similar. but alot of people dont even read the bill, they hear richard lee and big biz and get scared to death.
if you are a good grower, you will still thrive. there is always going to be a connoisseur market. the only people who are going to get hurt are the ones growing outdoor-whatever buds.
Lost is right this initiative doesn't seek to repeal any of the medical marijuana laws. But that doesn't mean it won't have a serious effect on the medical marijuana economy as a whole... I'll get into this point in a minute.1. Were is it written that the MMJ laws will be in effect in lieu of this bill.
Your quoting the Ammiano bill here, which we as voters won't have the opportunity to vote on. Why didn't rich lee or jeff jones include these kinds of specific details in their initiative though?2. Where does it state how you will be able to apply for commercial licenture.
$5000 for license, $2500 for renewal each year...seems very fair to me
3. what restrictions are placed on comercial growers limits and standards. (chemical pestacides ?Genetic modifications?)
4. as kushpheen stated : what constitutes smoking with a minor present? I mean im sure i can get tilted on some 151 in front of as many children as possible and be scott free. WTF ?
you shouldnt be able to smoke anything in front of children, this is the same for cigs. unless youre taking that 151 & spitting it at the children, it has no effect on them. 2nd hand smoke kills....thats a fact
Good question where in this bill does it offer this protection to parents. If consumption isn't allowed when minors are 'present' will cultivation be?5. can you grow in you lil ccramed as 5x5 if minors live in the same house?
Nothing in the lee initiative gives definitive protocols for commercial production standards. You might need something as simple as a burglar alarm or a team of security guards, either way, this initiative should of outlined those protocols, instead of leaving them up to our states legislature to decide upon arbitrarily.not sure about this one either, but commerical growers have to provide security of some type.
[6. what if you live next to a school?
will 18 and over patients be able to access medicine?
I read the bill briefly and believe if your not a dispensary
ur only allowed to grow 5x5 area
SkyHi, your not getting it. It would have to expressly say in the bill that this invalidates SB420 and prop 215 and because it does not say anything to that affect, it does not change the medical side. That is just Law 101.
Right here this initiative puts dispensaries on notice saying were going to be targeting your customers and will try to provide them with 'easier and safer', hmmm wonder why they didn't say cheaper? To argue these points simply, prop 215 let local governments regulate dispensaries within their cities. Some cities have 4, others have more than a thousand. Most are trying to limit and locate dispensaries in typically industrial and somewhat dangerous neighborhoods, which begs to ask where will all these easier and safer retail outlets be located when local governments are trying to hide medical dispensaries?6. Provide easier, safer access for patients who need cannabis for medical purposes.
rich lee is said 2 have thousands of mothers ready 2 go if it passes, rich lee and is people will take over cali's weed trade in 6 months, rich lee is ready 2 go now!! WE MUST SPREAD THE WORD TO EVERY ONE TO REGISTER TO VOTE AND VOTE NO!!! tell your friends and family 2 tell there friends and co workers 2 vote no!! its up 2 us 2 get the word out!! we have 2 explain 2 stoners that this bill sucks!!! we need 2 get together and make flyers for schools and retirement homes, we need more billboards put up!! we can not let this bill pass!!!!! if your a member on other grow sites go there and post spread the word!! register 2 vote dont be lazy
why dont we vote yes on this and then when a better bill comes along, vote on that one to replace this one? I see this one as a foot in the door, dont you guys? I wish it could be %100 the way we want it, but isnt something better than nothing? this one doesnt have to stay in effect forever
Definitely vote NO! God, I can't even stomach the thought of Richard Lee's little masturbatory wet dream of being the godfather of Cali. That dude just makes me want to yak my friggin' lunch!
I think it would only be proper to watch his $1,000,000 go up in smoke. Passing it off as if it were some kind of kind hearted 'donation' so we can all finally smoke in peace. That was nothing more than a cold and calculated business investment. Richard Lee is fucking with California hard for his own aspirations He don't give a fuck about anybody but Richard Lee.
yo whats up skyhi!! i think everyone will be affected in some way or another.. good or bad.. somepeople will make out like bandits and some peeps will get the stink stick.. but thats the way it goes with ALL laws and bills that get passed or dropped.. personally it would prob bring me more business, maybe not i dont know..and this bill might drop some prices even in the med community.. some people cant afford 60 an eighth for some GOOD meds every other day... it might actually encourage some great growers to come back even if its a 5x5 space.. Canada's got reg control from what im told and i know Amsterdam does.. sometimes you have to take some bad to get some good!!! EVERYONE would like to have no regs and be able to smoke, carry, and grow as much as they would want, but the fact of the matter is that will NEVER happen... bein from a legislative and negotiation backround ( did it for over 10 yrs of my life) thats my opinion.. its a catch 22 bro..
Exactly, Which might even raise the price for your quality, so those people who cant afford $60 an 1/8 will probably have to spew another 10-20.and vice versa.. if the big boys take over the quantity game.. everyone would have to focus on growing the super dank to make some good cash.. yo nor cal farmer you got a purse for your dog metro sexual???? hahaha..