Anyone interested,the thread set up by mars themselves"
mars hydro led light family". Has finally had the plug pulled by logic,as way to many peeps having faulty panels,and they never honour the warranty.NEVER...im so glad the farm staff have been listening in and put a stop to it,as they were doing some real sly tricks.anything to sell panels.even had pretend growers on there,who turned out to be mars staff.then they try to paint me as a troll,just for speaking the truth.anyway,I have two mars reflector 450 panels.the last of the 3watt diodes.Better in my eyes,cooler.but even though mine work.they did break and I had to fix myself.also I usually use them as supplement light now.because you just cant match the yeild of matching hps.my 2 panels side by side =600w about,but my 600w hps does better.im not a led hater.im building my own quality panels.this is the way to go,as mars don't cut it.period.and they have shown us all.THEY WILL NOT HONOUR THERE WARRANTY.be warned peeps..