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New Grower Need Help With Sad Clones :(

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I start on around 0.6 ec and work upto 1.8ec in flower, i use shogun nutrients and there supplements, with there feed calculator online..... i start on araund 60ml water per day and finish on feeding twice a day with a liter each time
 
I start on around 0.6 ec and work upto 1.8ec in flower, i use shogun nutrients and there supplements, with there feed calculator online..... i start on araund 60ml water per day and finish on feeding twice a day with a liter each time

They are showing roots on the bottom of the pot but I am still only watering once a day. And they are drinking less 700ml. I watered 1.5 gals today to all 12 plants and got plenty of run off.


They are looking much better day by day! The Banana OG has been really finicky but is getting its color back now.

I was following my feeding schedule from advanced nutrients and not feeding full strength and today came out to 1080ppm 2.1 EC. Since my runoff was testing low I just gave it to them to see how they react 😐

I never buffered my coco at first and I was using no cal mag with straight ro water in the first couple weeks so I want to make sure they plenty before flower.

Im giving around 150ppm which is 1ml per L of the advanced nutrients cal mag plus. The npk ratio is 4-0-0 should I be worried about using this in flower?
 

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They are showing roots on the bottom of the pot but I am still only watering once a day. And they are drinking less 700ml. I watered 1.5 gals today to all 12 plants and got plenty of run off.


They are looking much better day by day! The Banana OG has been really finicky but is getting its color back now.

I was following my feeding schedule from advanced nutrients and not feeding full strength and today came out to 1080ppm 2.1 EC. Since my runoff was testing low I just gave it to them to see how they react 😐

I never buffered my coco at first and I was using no cal mag with straight ro water in the first couple weeks so I want to make sure they plenty before flower.

Im giving around 150ppm which is 1ml per L of the advanced nutrients cal mag plus. The npk ratio is 4-0-0 should I be worried about using this in flower?

What is the ec of your run off, i would be aiming for around 1.0-1.2 for that size plants
 
I would just feed with 1.2ec then once you pot up go to 1.4 ec and should be ready to flower withing a week or 2 at most if keeping all the plants
 
I would just feed with 1.2ec then once you pot up go to 1.4 ec and should be ready to flower withing a week or 2 at most if keeping all the plants
Thats not too low? The schedule im following is recommending 1.6-2.0ec
 
Thats not too low? The schedule im following is recommending 1.6-2.0ec

I personally have never been over 1.8ec as i back off soon as see tips starting to burn a little... what is your starting ec ..... remember less is more!
 
Work up from low ec till i see this on my plants then back off a little and stay around there which is usually the 1.4-1.8 i see it never been over
 

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Work up from low ec till i see this on my plants then back off a little and stay around there which is usually the 1.4-1.8 i see it never been over
Okay cool I hear that is the best way.

Some people going as high as 3.0 or more with Athena nutrients? That sounds crazy to me.


Do you want temp drop at night in veg?
 
Okay cool I hear that is the best way.

Some people going as high as 3.0 or more with Athena nutrients? That sounds crazy to me.


Do you want temp drop at night in veg?

Yes my day temps are around 30c at the minute with the summer, night temps are 22c
 
Yes my day temps are around 30c at the minute with the summer, night temps are 22c
Ok cool. I am up monitoring my humidity and temp right now. Trying to dial the correct numbers on both and its so hard with the ac and dehu outside the tent. Ill have 5-10% swings in humidity from that thing pulling it all. I also only use one of the tents little square vents for air intake at night. I still have to get an intake fan/filter.
 
I tend not to worry to much on humidity as long as its not but my tent sits about 45-55% i to have the flaps open at bottom for intake air, i have a 4inch intake which is to loud... i plan on upping my out take from an 8 to 12" then will use my 8 and intake as that is silent can fan
 
My clones are not looking good after transplanting.

Platinum cookies (green label)
Banana OG (red label)
Temp stays around 75-80f with 60-70% humidity. Vpd 0.8-1.1

They are under a Gavita 1700e dimmed to 50% and raised up

I originally had them 36” under the light, I feel I may have burned them.

I transplanted last week, 2 days after bringing the clones. They were showing decent roots and i didnt want them exposed too much so I transplanted with great white to mother earth 70/30 coco pearlite mix.

I gave a really light water at first then a couple days later fed with nutrients.

I am feeding with advanced nutrients

Sensi coco a+b
Voodoo juice
B-52
Bud candy
Rhino skin

I added about 1/4 strength and fed.


The platinum cookies look better today but the banana og is not doing well.


Local hydro store told me to flush with water wait til dry and fed them Revive until they bounce back then I could reintroduce nutrients.

First pic was the morning after transplant. The rest were taken today

Any help would be really appreciated!
Two things:
1)Was the coco coir buffered and then flushed of excess salts?
2)Is the ph down you are using phosphoric acid?
 
I tend not to worry to much on humidity as long as its not but my tent sits about 45-55% i to have the flaps open at bottom for intake air, i have a 4inch intake which is to loud... i plan on upping my out take from an 8 to 12" then will use my 8 and intake as that is silent can fan
Where do you exhaust to?

Im currently exhausting into the same room because I have high levels of co2 but I dont know if that is smart
 
I have an 8 inch exhaust i live in flats with a balcony... i took a window out and replaced with wood with the vent on and exhaust out there 3 floors high i am so no eyes can seen my window removed... thats where my condensate pump, pumps to amd i got the tubing for that down the drain pipe
 
I have an 8 inch exhaust i live in flats with a balcony... i took a window out and replaced with wood with the vent on and exhaust out there 3 floors high i am so no eyes can seen my window removed... thats where my condensate pump, pumps to amd i got the tubing for that down the drain pipe
I have to make a window vent soon and do that. Ive just been stuck because my carbon filter will barely fit in my tent above my light
 
What sort fan do you have? i plan on standing mine in the corner of tent once i get the 12" as it will be heavythe filter
 
What sort fan do you have? i plan on standing mine in the corner of tent once i get the 12" as it will be heavythe filter

I have a 6” AC Infinity inline fan with carbon filter for exhaust. And 6 hurricane 6” fans clipped to the top of the tent.

I also had 1 12” oscillating fan on the bottom but it stoped oscillating and the plants grew so it didnt fit on the floor. I need to get a tower fan or ac infinity oscilating fan that clips onto the tent pole.

And I plan to get an intake fan with carbon filter.
 
Yeh man, you can remove all that dead stuff.

Just to reinforce everyone else here....

LED lights use IR diodes... and little plants just can't handle that much Infared at such a young age.

It's ok to let the babies stretch a little in the beginning stages. SO keep that light as far to the top of the tent as possible and dial it down as far as possible.

You want to let the plants "grow into the light" as you turn the light strength up and lower the light.

By the time flowering comes around you'll be a foot off the top of the plants and 100% power on the light.
 
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