--- Quality Over Quantity --- (new Member Post)

[QoQ]

It's indicia 75% supposed to be a fast grw 54-57 days flowering but I don't know. I'm already 3 weeks tomorrow lol it don't look like 3 weeks though....

 

[QoQ]

Sorry my information was wrong. It's actually a Sativa dominant here's some info...

Flower time: 67 days

VIP Seeds - White Berry

Our variety White Berry comes from the union of two exceptional and prestigious varieties within the cannabic world, have resulted in an exceptional hybrid. It is a variety with Sativa dominance, medium / large stature, with a sturdy and slightly open structure, with a distance between a half knots, and quite thin and elongated leaves, the result of several crossings of genetic, Strawberry, Domina and our best Sativa to soften the dominance Indicates that provided the other varieties.

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

Oh im just being a smart ass cuz it's got that top shoot with five feet of stretch but it's fine just every time I see plants like that first thing to mind is woah look at that bean pole over there somebody didnt top up hehe no worries tho now on to your progress so my first thought was dam girl u need a boster (you may actually want to do this)/FF has open sesame, cha-ching and beastie blooms they are powder and you need to mix them very very well before application to your girls I use all three as a nute line throughout flower with my heavy feeders/ So then I actually looked at the plant and not just her gazongas flapping in the breeze and realized she was most likely a sativa not an indi and she takes a bit longer to bulk up and finish but according to the seed Bank info she is a shorter flowering sativa and may want a little more now. Let me ask you this again ik how close is your light rite now can u get it any closer to her she will build bud better if you can!!! good rule of thumb if you can put your light ON yes physically ON your plant without any heat and so on (this is ultimately impossible)But super light freaks that like 500k in a 4x4 they will tell you do it if you can get more light double that n shit nit me tho I like my modest 1k lights @ 12" away from cannopy but iv got sealed hoods hooked up to 12" vortex fans keeping them way cool n all that you get the idea tho I'm sure. ;)

Overall judgment of plant she is beautiful just gorgeous really perfect green not to lite not to dark stretch is a little odd but I'm not a sativa guy when it comes to growing them (I'll smoke plenty of it just won't grow it alot) so I'm no judge there i think it's the anti top anti lollipops that makes it look odd in this way but not a dam thing wrong with her I can see well I think I can find one problem but just this one at the moment > (she's not ready to be smoked for sooooo long) °•○●○•●°

Sorry sudsed off for a moment there GLHF

 

[QoQ]

Thankyou very very much for your kind reply.

I have been unfortunately very busy with work and problems in my life atm. I am still keeping on top of my plants just haven't had time to post.

I'll post 3 updated pictures here now.

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

Beauty in a box cums so sweetly. Just the greatest experience ever doing great have u got a booster of some kind yet?

 

[QoQ]

What do you mean by booster ? I am using tiger bloom for my feed mix with water. I am not adding anything else. What else shall I be using?

 

[QoQ]

I'd like someone to elaborate on the 'booster' part if possible? Thanks alot!!

QoQ

 

[kbellfoy]

I'm on my UOTE="QoQ, post: 1473004, member: 68154"]Hello.

I'm new to this forum and the reason why I've joined is to share and discuss grows and hopefully by being apart of this I can progress my skills and produce bud id be extremely happy with!

I'm currently 4 weeks into my veg on my second ever grow (grew 2 plants last year)

I'm growing Northern Lights x Big Bud and VIP WHITE Berry.

I'm using a 1 meter Sq tent with 250w hps bulb atm. I originally bought a 600w but it's too hot in the tent.

I'll post pictures later but im currently at work.

Thankyou very much for allowing me to join a wonderful community.

Hope to me friends and share enjoyment !

Thankyou. QoQ[/QUOTE]
Im on my very first grow. Same size tent as yours bit I'm running a 600w hps I keep it cool in there with a cool tube. Before I bought the cool tube it was 50 degree in the tent!now it's a steady 30 degrees. I have a pure big bud XXL growing so I'm keen to see how that one turns out. I'm also growing ak 47 White Russian and early sativa.

 

[QoQ]

I'm on my UOTE="QoQ, post: 1473004, member: 68154"]Hello.

I'm new to this forum and the reason why I've joined is to share and discuss grows and hopefully by being apart of this I can progress my skills and produce bud id be extremely happy with!

I'm currently 4 weeks into my veg on my second ever grow (grew 2 plants last year)

I'm growing Northern Lights x Big Bud and VIP WHITE Berry.

I'm using a 1 meter Sq tent with 250w hps bulb atm. I originally bought a 600w but it's too hot in the tent.

I'll post pictures later but im currently at work.

Thankyou very much for allowing me to join a wonderful community.

Hope to me friends and share enjoyment !

Thankyou. QoQ

Im on my very first grow. Same size tent as yours bit I'm running a 600w hps I keep it cool in there with a cool tube. Before I bought the cool tube it was 50 degree in the tent!now it's a steady 30 degrees. I have a pure big bud XXL growing so I'm keen to see how that one turns out. I'm also growing ak 47 White Russian and early sativa.[/QUOTE]

Hey. Nice, im very familiar with white Russian. (Didn't smoke anything but for around 3 years). It works Very well with anxiety and distress...

My big bud I haven't really included many photos of that grow in this thread. But I will in the near future.
She's flowering steadily slow right now.

My VIP White berry on the other hand is exploding with nugs I can see atleast 10 different grow areas (colas) and I absolutely cannot wait to cut this beauty.

Though I have to be very honest with myself and all of you, the white berry barely even smells and I can't even smell a thing when putting my nose close to the plant..

I'm not sure about adding extra terpenoid feed to create aroma so ill probably just be using my Tiger bloom And hope the nutes control that...

Can you post some pics for me? And I'd be happy to purchase a cooling tube I just need to make sure it doesn't cool too much and it still brings the heat.

Thanks alot,

QoQ

 

[kbellfoy]

Im on my very first grow. Same size tent as yours bit I'm running a 600w hps I keep it cool in there with a cool tube. Before I bought the cool tube it was 50 degree in the tent!now it's a steady 30 degrees. I have a pure big bud XXL growing so I'm keen to see how that one turns out. I'm also growing ak 47 White Russian and early sativa.

Hey. Nice, im very familiar with white Russian. (Didn't smoke anything but for around 3 years). It works Very well with anxiety and distress...

My big bud I haven't really included many photos of that grow in this thread. But I will in the near future.
She's flowering steadily slow right now.

My VIP White berry on the other hand is exploding with nugs I can see atleast 10 different grow areas (colas) and I absolutely cannot wait to cut this beauty.

Though I have to be very honest with myself and all of you, the white berry barely even smells and I can't even smell a thing when putting my nose close to the plant..

I'm not sure about adding extra terpenoid feed to create aroma so ill probably just be using my Tiger bloom And hope the nutes control that...

Can you post some pics for me? And I'd be happy to purchase a cooling tube I just need to make sure it doesn't cool too much and it still brings the heat.

Thanks alot,

QoQ[/QUOTE]

Im on my very first grow. Same size tent as yours bit I'm running a 600w hps I keep it cool in there with a cool tube. Before I bought the cool tube it was 50 degree in the tent!now it's a steady 30 degrees. I have a pure big bud XXL growing so I'm keen to see how that one turns out. I'm also growing ak 47 White Russian and early sativa.

Hey. Nice, im very familiar with white Russian. (Didn't smoke anything but for around 3 years). It works Very well with anxiety and distress...

My big bud I haven't really included many photos of that grow in this thread. But I will in the near future.
She's flowering steadily slow right now.

My VIP White berry on the other hand is exploding with nugs I can see atleast 10 different grow areas (colas) and I absolutely cannot wait to cut this beauty.

Though I have to be very honest with myself and all of you, the white berry barely even smells and I can't even smell a thing when putting my nose close to the plant..

I'm not sure about adding extra terpenoid feed to create aroma so ill probably just be using my Tiger bloom And hope the nutes control that...

Can you post some pics for me? And I'd be happy to purchase a cooling tube I just need to make sure it doesn't cool too much and it still brings the heat.

Thanks alot,

QoQ[/QUOTE]
This is the cool tube I bought. I had to get a 5 inch inline fan as well as the one I got in my kit was 4 inch. I use the 4 inch on my carbon filter so no waste. I must say it's been so worth the money or I would have had to change to cfl due to the high temps on my 600w hps. It holds steady now at a perfect 30 instead of the 45 plus temps I was getting.

 

[QoQ]

Lol pound currency :) fellow greetings lmao.

Though I have to say ill be looking into purchasing the same one today or tomorrow!

Will it effect my plants jumping them from 250 to 600 ?
How many days does it take for them to get used to the new light source (or isit practically simular just more kelvins).

Thankyou so much for your kind help, I feel as if I've learnt so much from this forum already.

Will be posting updates pictures later on today!

QoQ

 

[kbellfoy]

Someone with experience can answer the light ? Lol I'm brand new. I started with a 600w hps but high up and lowered it very slowly as my seedlings got used. It can't be that bad for em gone from seed to 5 nodes in 2 weeks with no extra feed in soil. There seems to be a divide...Some say only t5 for seedlings not hps others just use hps like me. Mine have done great. I deffo noticed an increase in growth after getting the cool tube in cause it was just too hot before. :)

 

[DGL]

wait wait wait wait wait wait wait the fuck on up, the name of this thread is quality over quantity but the ballast you are running only produces 50hz on average of photon flux aka your photons are being emmitted within a range that is not dense enough and your running with hps? are you at least ripening with a high uvb emitting bulb? because understand HPS does not ENERGYZE all of the PHOTOSYNTHETICAL processes a plant PRODUCES, aka you are not producing full photosynthesis with that bulb just parts of it, i understand you might be on a budget but your lighting is OFF your ballast is fucking you on your quantity and your light bulb is fucking you on your quality(hps can produce some great herb but not world class) if you have any questions ask my advice is based on actual hands on experience not bullshit in books. not trying to be a dick just trying to help you out honestly. peace and good luck

 

[DGL]

[QUOTE="

I'm not sure about adding extra terpenoid feed to create aroma so ill probably just be using my Tiger bloom And hope the nutes control that...

Can you post some pics for me? And I'd be happy to purchase a cooling tube I just need to make sure it doesn't cool too much and it still brings the heat.

Thanks alot,

QoQ[/QUOTE]
ALSO man for me to get great tasting and smelling flowers i have to carbo load, add amino acids / switch out amino acids for certain stages of growth and i also add a molasses supplement, if you don't want too much fertilizer(usually because they're synthetic) then go grab some organic or veganic ferts tiger bloom isnt going to grow world class mate,
i currently use

a base nutrient for my stage of growth

a sweetener

a bio catalyst for the fungi and bacteria in my root zone

3 different bloom boosters one for all 3 stages of bloom

a essential oil formation nutrient(fox farms cha ching is a end phase bloom booster also acting as they're essential oil formation nutrient i hate fox farms and this is a reason why besides they're fertilizers being GARBAGE not boosting any other nutrient lines name just saying in my own OPINION get the FK off fox farms bro. there are better organic alternatives then fox farms LOL more then half of the FF line has synthetic ferts in it anyways LOLOLOLOL full organic my arse)

a humic acid nutrient

a fulvic acid nutrient

and that is what my current nutrient line is derived from.

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

wait wait wait wait wait wait wait the fuck on up, the name of this thread is quality over quantity but the ballast you are running only produces 50hz on average of photon flux aka your photons are being emmitted within a range that is not dense enough and your running with hps? are you at least ripening with a high uvb emitting bulb? because understand HPS does not ENERGYZE all of the PHOTOSYNTHETICAL processes a plant PRODUCES, aka you are not producing full photosynthesis with that bulb just parts of it, i understand you might be on a budget but your lighting is OFF your ballast is fucking you on your quantity and your light bulb is fucking you on your quality(hps can produce some great herb but not world class) if you have any questions ask my advice is based on actual hands on experience not bullshit in books. not trying to be a dick just trying to help you out honestly. peace and good luck

That all sounds pretty dam Biased to me and I'm sure many other will agree if you your saying is true then I guess this never really happened either Right?

[QUOTE="

I'm not sure about adding extra terpenoid feed to create aroma so ill probably just be using my Tiger bloom And hope the nutes control that...

Can you post some pics for me? And I'd be happy to purchase a cooling tube I just need to make sure it doesn't cool too much and it still brings the heat.

Thanks alot,

QoQ

ALSO man for me to get great tasting and smelling flowers i have to carbo load, add amino acids / switch out amino acids for certain stages of growth and i also add a molasses supplement, if you don't want too much fertilizer(usually because they're synthetic) then go grab some organic or veganic ferts tiger bloom isnt going to grow world class mate,
i currently use

a base nutrient for my stage of growth

a sweetener

a bio catalyst for the fungi and bacteria in my root zone

3 different bloom boosters one for all 3 stages of bloom

a essential oil formation nutrient(fox farms cha ching is a end phase bloom booster also acting as they're essential oil formation nutrient i hate fox farms and this is a reason why besides they're fertilizers being GARBAGE not boosting any other nutrient lines name just saying in my own OPINION get the FK off fox farms bro. there are better organic alternatives then fox farms LOL more then half of the FF line has synthetic ferts in it anyways LOLOLOLOL full organic my arse)

a humic acid nutrient

a fulvic acid nutrient

and that is what my current nutrient line is derived from.[/QUOTE]

Again extremely Biased and just your personal opinion not actually facts of any kind. yes these are techniques growers use but commonly more advanced growers!!! this is a first time grow thread and she does not need all the extra BS your trying to cram. Fox farm nutrients are plenty to grow a good size and decent smoking bud and you never need any of that extra crap I have made some stellar grows on just plain soil and compost tea if you disagree that's fine I D C !!! Also only the elite few grow world class buds that's why there are over 100 cup judges due to getting over a 1000 entries and only pick a few to be judged overall

@QoQ Don't put to much into this. You will learn all this as you go and don't need to get into so many methods it becomes overwhelming.

@kbellfoy I think your stalking me o_O

 

[DGL]

the threads name is quality over quantity.
ps bro honestly i wasnt hating, i wasnt trying to get into a war with anyone,
fox farms is garbage that is my own opinion,
im not saying my method is the only way of growing lol but she is starting a thread about quality over quantity,
and dude ive grown organically you can grow great weed with soil and compost teas that is not what im trying to say by my reply.

 

[DGL]

also kiloelement what ballast are you running? because her ballast in that pic is a low frequency ballast that produces very minimal photon's per second aka photon flux density, the ballast in your vid is a high frequency ballast, im sorry plants dont have eye balls they cannot see a color of light but when a light is emitted within a certain nano-meter range(aka 480-720 aka PAR) it makes the photons fluxuated within that nano meter range photo synthetically active aka par photons or photons that can be taken in by chlorophyll A N B by the plants for the MOST energy! but plants do use other colors of light to energize different photosynthetic processes and yes there are processes within this plant that are not being energized in the 480-720 nm range, THUS HER LIGHTING IS OFF POINT BECAUSE THE PHOTON FLUX IF OFF aka low frequency ballast which also CHANGES THE COLOR OF LIGHT EMITTED BY HER BULB THUS CHANGING THE ACTUAL LIGHT SPECTRUM OF THE BULB. ALSO LOW FREQUENCY BALLAST'S PRODUCE LOW YIELD COMPARED TO HIGH FREQUENCY BALLASTS DUE TO PHOTON FLUX BEING MORE DENSE OR THERE BEING MORE PHOTONS EMITTED BY A HIGH FREQUENCY BALLAST.
im sorry for the caps but im just trying to make this grower understand a little bit more about the equipment she is running which is NOT A BAD THING!~ and dude you can say this is all my opinion which honestly it is but my opinions are based on actual first class experience so to say throw all of this BIASED guys advice out the window is STUPID imo.

 

[DGL]

in the video above they did a test with some HIGH frequency ballasts and 1 low frequency ballast notice how the low frequency ballast give you shit yield? i actually ran a core n coil hardcore ballast vs a solis tek and dude dry weight for the hardcore is a little bit under 3/4th's of a P and the solis tek did me a P and a QP why? photon flux fools!!!!!! her lighting is off point and it will produce her lower yields not just crappyer buds.

 

[Grassroot432]

Pulling up a chair.. looks great though man. Hopefully I will have similar luck :)

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

No i get what you were saying i am just blunt and a bit of an :asshat:

I do agree FF is crap compared to other much more expensive brands. However these are not for a first time grower IMO and would be a waste of money until the grower has some experience under the lights and in the mix it is seen every day here and if you are as long time of a grower as you state, then you should have a good understanding of how easy it is to screw up your nutes if not in a good understanding of how they are applied, and yes this thread is about quality over quantity that does not mean you have to go nuts and buy all the latest and greatest or the most expensive. You said it yourself

ive grown organically you can grow great weed with soil and compost teas

key word there "GREAT" I'm sure we can go on forever about this topic but it is completely pointless to do so and i would rather leave it at that and let @QoQ take the advice given heee and decide for herself what she wishes to do for her grow that is best for her!


@QoQTo answer your earlier question not directed at me lol. No it will not harm your plants to upgrade the lighting infact at this point in your growth stage it could do nothing but help them as long as u keep the temps in check