ozarkgrey
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your on point.... there's no shame in your game...Keep it up Bro/sis just to make sure LOLYou are right. More experienced should be able to increase yields as this is my first grow. I had 3.5 ft plants and had adequate light penetration through veg. It really surprised me. Now growing a monster would not suffice but 2-3fters is doable with good results. I will point out that I had 10 watts per sq ft in my room and produced some really nice flower. Very low but made it work. Weight is there and I see room for my improvements to better yield next time around. I am not saying they are the best, but I am proof that they will work to produce some quality flower. I will upgrade in future but in the meantime I will make this work and make sure I post pics : ) If they dont send a quantum board, maybe I will. If they do not send the pros a set, I will on my next order for my new grow room. I would love to see what can be produced in the seasoned hand's.
I use quantum boards with LM301b's similar to SF lights and get great results. Now mind you my room is 11x15 so heat is not an issue. I sit at 22c with 8x sf 2000 with lights on and 20.5 off. I know a few others that grow with SF's and get half p per plant minimum in DWC. It is all about canopy penetration. My new grow room will have lights just below canopy on sides of grow room for maximum growth along with RDWC 15 pot system. I am getting about 1\4 p to half p per plant under Quantum's. All in organic soil.. Here is a pic to see for yourself. Good yields for a LED board. I am flushing now and are tightening up everyday. Still about 10 days to go. Tric's are starting to go milky and about 2-3% amber.
I like em' just fine, just not that crazy about the price, may pick up another SF2000 to finish my flowering as I'm not finding dependable options in my price range, only wish the dimmer was backwards compatible with mine.Maybe you can try our lights next time!!!! We promise that you will like our lights lol
I need another QB but why buy yours for twice the price of other chinese lights..?Maybe you can try our lights next time!!!! We promise that you will like our lights lol
because they use samsung LM301B/H chips and meanwell drivers which are more expensive, go check the cheap chinese lights most use SMD led chips and cheap driversI need another QB but why buy yours for twice the price of other chinese lights..?
If you are talking about Kingbrite, The one year warranty is the deal breaker for me, plus a lot of these vendors are sketchy, might pan out good if you want to gamble but I've never been one for that.I need another QB but why buy yours for twice the price of other chinese lights..?
True but it seems many of the eco farm models are using samsung chips as well for a much lower cost.because they use samsung LM301B/H chips and meanwell drivers which are more expensive, go check the cheap chinese lights most use SMD led chips and cheap drivers
I don't know of anyone that has used these lights & they copied a par read from the SF4000 to use on one of their units which seems pretty shady to me.True but it seems many of the eco farm models are using samsung chips as well for a much lower cost.
Then i suggest you go and buy an eco farmTrue but it seems many of the eco farm models are using samsung chips as well for a much lower cost.
Yeah, someone has to eventually, I don't care to be their beta tester though.Then i suggest you go and buy an eco farm
Just look at the parts list and wattage output and you can see sf uses cheaper red and uv diodes and less watts than the competition. Same as mars like their crappy sell to noobs business model.
And then we can get into unmatched and lower bin diodes and of course a less powerful driver.
But they put a nice dimmer knob on to get your attention away from that stuff.
All to lower manufacturing costs but they still charge a premium.
None of this means it wont grow plants. Showing a pic of a plant and claiming very high yield is not proof of anything.
Prove you got 1000 grams out of 450 watts. ;-)
that is one of my personal goals as a new grower. is to be a tester for some better known breeders out there. with growing i quickly noticed it was like so many other endeavors in life, weakest link in the chain type deals. so before i threw more good money after bad, i stepped back and looked for those links. catching some is easier than others of course. like beginner mistakes, weak equipment, poor room design etc. knock a few of these off the list and then look for the weak links before they become a issue, heat, RO, cooling, smell, waste, etc and correct those when you can. take your time and consider each step as a end game. point of me writing this is why i ditched Q boards from china. i was getting what i considered to be good results? now consider how much i do not know about growing, and you can see why i choose to punt em in favor of a US made light by US workers and warranty i trust 100%. are my results looking better? you bet! also i lowered my wattage pull at the wall, lowered my temps and my RH, saving hours on the humidifier and AC units. bigger better cola's with more flowers on each plant with superior light penetration. i like that i can order my lights tuned to my liking, 3k-3.5.-4K etc being stuck with numbers that are generic. quicker flower times and less herm's IMO due to that quicker flip and less stress. i could go on but i did a big dab and lost my train,,, i guess it was something like why all the brand loyalty? it's not a personal thing, so there is never a need to defend a company. let them and their products do that. i read some of these comments when it comes to lights and testing etc on here and other forums and cats and kittens act like i will say anything for a free light. SMFH so your price is a 169.00 on amazon to lie? WTF or back to the testing point of this, i'm never offended when i get passed over for testing new high end beans. why, because i'm not ready to be a tester and i know that. i can not offer the grower any real feedback good or bad and the buyer may in fact get screwed due to that. i feel these light companies operate in the opposite fashion, here's a light say nice things. in summation cannabis should never come in plastic
True, knocks a foot off the top, better options?The dimmer knob keeps trying to distract me from those chintzy cable hangers on the corners and how they sacrifice head room for dead space
True, knocks a foot off the top better options?
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