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I've just heard about an issue with Philips' 1000 DE bulbs, that they're failing a lot, and way early. Is this just malicious rumor, or is there some truth to it?
mines burning on 1150 and she running sweet as a mofo, wakeandbake has 1 also and he got his burning fine, sounds like that could be malicious, plus you get a yr warrenty on the bulb anyways :) but between all my friends the 4 we've got are fine
Sweet- it's good to hear from people who have them. How long have you had yours, and did you notice a substantial difference in plant response between it and the more common single ended 1000w units?
oh i forgot to say the bulb covers a 1.2x1.2 with absolutely no dark spots where single ended bulbs have a slight dark spot behind, im sure cos the element is bang in the center of the shade thats why it gives a much better spread
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hey bro, well id never used a 1000watt light before so i noticed a huge difference once i went from a 600hps with magnetic ballast to this beast of a light, when i first bought it i couldnt put it on full power due to not being able to lift it high enough, so we had it on 850 most of the way through and we upped the yeild by 10oz compared to the 600s around the room, now ive had the choice of using it on full power so i have, and the diff it makes to the plants is unbelievable, it actually helps stop stretch while leaving the colas to stack up real well, much better than ive seen with these strains previously :cool: before i got this it was alot more work training so this time round its felt like ive done nowt hahahaha
defo worth the investment bro, im upgrading all my tents to gavitas in the very near future, might treat myself to a 300lep too :)
the biggest thing i notice with this unit is cos the hood is so small its really easi to move the heat away compared to those massive hoods, and i'll be honest when i first seen the unit i laughed at the size of the shade, i wasnt laughing when i tried looking at the bulb when it was on tho :rolleyes:
invest away bro, you wont look back;)
where did you hear about the bulbs goin on these units?
sorry bro i didnt explain properly, what i meant about the spread is that there is absolutely no dark spots with this unit where i find all single ended bulbs have a slight dark spot behind where the bulb screws in, just my observation tho
my 600s were fine bro, bulbs changed on the regs and temps were always perfect, i'll have to take a pic but ive never grown a 1ft long cola with the wifi cut im running and this time ive got like 10-15 of them, no gaps in the bud like im used to seeing with this strain
well the spread is great, i got mine bang in the center of my 1.2x1.2 and the light on the side walls starts 4-5inch lower than the shade hangs which is just amazing, i think its down to how the bulb is sat in the unit, but i dont think it would work on a rotator bro, just by the way it hangs, only the ballast side holds the weight where the shade side is just held up to stop it from spinning lol my friend has a lep and i gotta say the buds at the bottom of the plants are exactly the same as those near the hps, so its defo working i think, but im gonna wait till the price goes down :)
Yeah, I got you on the light distribution under the Gavita vs. mogul socket style HID- that's good news. What you're describing is the plants' response to an increase in PAR light intensity on the flowers, good to know it's impressing you like that! Since you didn't replace a 1000w mogul HPS with the Gavita, it's tough to tell how much of the improvement is due to which difference. Swapping it in for a 1000w would make for a more direct apples-to-apples comparison.
hahaha i hear ya there bro
If you have a protractor or gauge, I would be interested to know exactly what angle from horizontal the light edge follows between the reflector and the edge of your tent. A 5 inch drop on a 24 inch run is about 1:5, or about 15 degrees? That's just guesstimating...
i'll get the tape measure out and check it out for ya, im useless with maths lol
I Built my own light rotator- wanna see? As you can see, I'm aware of the challenges inherent in building light rotators, and running a one piece lighting system would be an easily solved issue. The main reason I want a remote ballast is so that I can use a flipbox to run two remote reflectors with each ballast, and saving myself some money in the process. If I were to go this route, I would need the reflectors to be sealed and vented. Or, I could be happy with just the ballast, cord, lamp and socket set- and I could build my own reflectors!
yh man i'll have a nosy later on :D , might be worth gettin intouch with gavita see what they can do for ya bro, they do remote ballasts but im sure they wouldnt run ordinary hps bulbs, because its running a 400volt bulb, something again im not 100% on but im sure ive read that somewhere
the biggest advantage for me is that its adjustable, when the temps get silly hot i just turn it down, not had to do it this time but had no choice when i first bought it lol
They are bringing out a single ended 1000w bulb that can be used with remote ballasts and your own choice of shade.
First I or the disti has heard about failing 1000de. Not had a single one returned with that problem.
just for the record guys, (and it is the last thing I'll say about this subject until there is some real news): Gavita is a Luxim Business partner. When there is something new available, we have it. When they announce something new we already know it. Last year there were rumors about a new module, and preliminary specs were released in a newsletter. Unfortunately this model is not even out of its prototype stage. Luxim is a venture capital backed company which has to produce and innovate. But they hurt themselves by bringing out this information as the new module, let alone a fixture for it, will not be available in a long time. Last year some people were suggesting that it would be on the market soon (it was not) or latest beginning of this year (it was not). Now these rumor surface again as there is a light show in May where Luxim will be. Please visit their booth and see a dummy of a new module which will be not even pre-production ready until end of the year, so do not expect a new fixture until somewhere next year. We are not in the business of spreading rumors or misinformation. You can not take decisions based on rumors. So, if people on the forums I manage insist to keep on undermining the information flow by spreading false rumors (or even say I am a misinformed liar) I will warn them not to do so any more. If they persist: I have better things to do than fight windmills 9and we have a lot of then in Holland :D).
For those who still want to wait for a new and bigger module: The current plasma fixture has a pay-back time (just based on the added light output and corresponding yield) of less than two cycles. I do not even take quality into this consideration. So you get a good ROI for this fixture. Also it remains to be seen if you can swap the 300W for the new module. You need to be able to spread the light over a surface, specifically when you combine it with HPS. That means that you would need to have a much wider reflector or hang it higher to get the same mix of HPS and plasma.
So my recommendation is to not wait and just experience the plasma for yourself. It is a no-brainer if you calculate the pay back time. For HPS fixtures the pay-back time is of course less than one cycle.
Then about the price (just to give you an idea of our strategy): Our competitors in the US, for example Chameleon, have a much higher MSRP ($ 1695) to be able to give the shops a bigger margin, and for that they give you a metal box with a fan in it. Our horticultural quality fixture (solid state fanless, custom design, Miro reflecotor, float glass wide spectrum filter, Wieland connector, inox parts) has an MSRP in the US of $ 1299. This has been the price since launch. We keep the price and margins low to enable people to actually be able to afford this lamp. It will not become cheaper this year. Recently Chameleon in the US announced their prices to drop, I think they have a special deal for 1395. This is not to talk bad about the competition, they do a good job promoting this new technology and investing in it, there is more than enough room in the market for more suppliers. It's just to put thing a bit more in perspective.
New technology is exciting, and even more so if it is affordable. As most of you will not be growing lettuce and tomatoes the break even point will be much faster than with any horticultural crop. You will get a better ROI with a HPS lamp, no doubt about it. LEP is still by far not as efficient as HPS in producing photons. It can not (contrary to what some of the competition tries to sell it for) replace a 1000W or even 600W HPS. It will replace a 400W MH if you just look at lumens. We have always been very open and precise about what you can and can not do with this lamp. Lighting is a science.
sorry if I am not always popping in when a question arises, fortunately there are many plasma users already who can answer most questions now :) (thanks Herb!)